davidyko
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Post by davidyko on Mar 31, 2009 12:43:59 GMT -5
So I noticed that in 22, there were quite a few experienced competitors (at least ones that had previous passed the JS) that just couldn't pass the JS this time. Primary among them is Takeda, of course, but we also have Luci, Matsunaga, Wakky (though he's always been bad at it) and Yamada (ditto). Even Nagano looked a little shaky hitting the wall, he barely got enough distance...
I guess my question is, why? What was so different about the JS? One possible idea I had was maybe there was a shorter run-up, coming after a different obstacle, but I haven't been able to compare with 21.
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Post by gtoneko on Mar 31, 2009 12:49:30 GMT -5
That seems about right in a way. I've noticed that alot of the competitors aren't hitting the trampoline in the "right spot", thus going somewhat off course of their trajectory and either getting in luckily or getting knocked out by it.
That's what I've noticed happened to alot of the competitors, especially with Takeda.
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Post by obakemono on Mar 31, 2009 13:02:11 GMT -5
No difference, just more people messed it up. Simple as.
EDIT: I think it may have to do with some kind of collective confidence issue. The more people that start failing it, especially people who have completed it before, the more perceptively difficult it becomes.
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scnoi1217
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Post by scnoi1217 on Mar 31, 2009 14:22:58 GMT -5
Honestly, the obstacle itself was the same, as was the runup.
I think though that the biggest problem was the grip though. It seemed like everyone had trouble once the stuck onto the walls. Even during that first part of the Spider Walk, people seemed to be slipping. Maybe the cold had something to do with it since Sasuke 20 had a similar problem, a problem that wasn't there in 21. Other times, I think it was just people hitting the trampoline wrong, for example: Takeda or Matsunaga.
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Post by japantv1210 on Mar 31, 2009 15:56:22 GMT -5
I also think that it had something to do with the grip. It seemed to me that there were more people failing but they still managed to get their legs on the walls. IMO, it looked like the wall was much more chipped than last time. By this, I mean it looked like there was more white exposed where people's feet tend to hit the wall than in 21.
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Post by pker50111 on Mar 31, 2009 16:15:40 GMT -5
One thing i noticed for Luci is THE DAMN FRONT WALLS ARE TOO FAR APART!!! Luci is 5'0 she cant stretch that far easily even in 21 she did it but she went slow throughout it cause she couldnt stretch. Maybe an inch closer? that would help
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Post by The Chief on Mar 31, 2009 16:18:06 GMT -5
Take a breather pker50111, and turn the Caps Lock off.
The difference was in the distance between the walls, it was wider.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Mar 31, 2009 16:50:23 GMT -5
To have failed the Jumping Spider in 19, it's a pipe dream to be able to get revenge because it will never be that high again. I don't know if Brett Simms and Paul Terek realized this. In 22 it seemed the smallest it's been since 18.
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Post by pker50111 on Mar 31, 2009 16:52:20 GMT -5
I doo take breathers.... i just like to hold the shift key sry
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 31, 2009 16:53:53 GMT -5
The one time you're supposed to use shift........
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Post by pker50111 on Mar 31, 2009 16:55:14 GMT -5
Haha i dont worry about my grammar on the computer in forums. Only in school
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Post by buckeyemaniac on Mar 31, 2009 19:12:12 GMT -5
It seems people didn't jump far enough into the walls
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Post by SRW on Mar 31, 2009 19:15:34 GMT -5
I saw nothing different its just people did not do their jumps right on the trampoline in its sweet spot so they paid for it.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 31, 2009 19:16:46 GMT -5
I didn't see a difference either. Just probably took it for granted and/or just got off the trampoline without enough height.
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Post by bigblind168 on Mar 31, 2009 19:34:30 GMT -5
it looked like, atleast for yamada and takeda, they did the kinda jump that asaoka did in 6 w/ the jump hang (w/o the weird walk up)
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Post by Badalight on Mar 31, 2009 22:43:09 GMT -5
I compeltely disagree big blind. Takeda did the exact oposite of that. he ran up to it, got too much distance on his jump, and hit the end of the trampoline instead of the middle.
he had near perfect form, if he hit it in the middle it would've been a great jump. It's the same way all of the muscle musical members were hitting it.
But Takeda just missed the sweet spot, his form is the same as it always has and it's a good technique.
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Post by obakemono on Apr 1, 2009 5:47:00 GMT -5
The people who lost their grip, like Wakky and Luci, were too far out and at full stretch.
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Post by lars072 on Apr 1, 2009 9:27:58 GMT -5
It's just down to a lack of concentration and a bit of bad luck. The JS is a tough obstacle- if you don't hit it exactly right, you're wet.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 1, 2009 19:07:55 GMT -5
The people who lost their grip, like Wakky and Luci, were too far out and at full stretch. In other words, they didn't get enough distance and landed too far back on the curved entrance portion. It did seem that more people failed to get the distance they needed than last tournament. Whether that is because they (1) tweaked the Jumping Spider slightly (2) people just didn't perform as well, possibly a morale issue, (3) they worried too much about getting height on their jumps and sacrificed distance for it, or (4) other... that's something we can argue for 6 months.
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Post by joemello on Apr 1, 2009 19:33:40 GMT -5
I do think there may have been a small increase in the gap between the walls and perhaps some lube on the plexiglass, but the latter is probably just wishful thinking.
However, it's still all about body control. You have to be dead center in order to have any shot of completing the obstacle.
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