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Post by yamfriend on Mar 27, 2016 9:33:20 GMT -5
As oddly specific as this may seem, I'd like the course to revert back to how it was when Inui left after SASUKE 14. In other words, I'd like to see Stage 1 have a combination of a "retro" and "modern" feel by having obstacles like the Rolling Maruta (the original, not the Sandan/"drop" version from 13-17, provided it gets past H&S) and Jump Hang return alongside interesting new obstacles like the Lumberjack Climb and 31's Orugoru ("Music Box"). For Stage 2, knowing what Inui's interests are in doing with it (making it more of a water course rather than a speed-based one), I'd like to see some completely new obstacles which (aside from the "no touching the water") would still revolve around the same objective that we're used to: to clear all of the stage's obstacles in a set amount of time. Stage 3 should go entirely back to a stamina-based course in which every obstacles is to be feared (like we saw in 14-17) rather than a stage that is primarily about landing the jump(s) on the current version of the Cliffhanger. Also, I hope the tradition of "nobody reaches the Final Stage after a kanzenseiha tournament" continues (don't get me wrong, I want people to do well, but the idea of the course striking back this time around seems most fitting and brings the reality of SASUKE's difficulty back to everyone). Having more obstacles which are difficult to near-impossible to replicate would also be neat and IMO increase the likelihood of this era's longevity. If possible, it would be neat to see fans play a role once again in proposing new obstacle ideas, where the "grand prize" winner would have an invitation to SASUKE 32 to see it potentially take out some competitors.
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Post by TCM on Mar 27, 2016 10:02:13 GMT -5
As oddly specific as this may seem, I'd like the course to revert back to how it was when Inui left after SASUKE 14. In other words, I'd like to see Stage 1 have a combination of a "retro" and "modern" feel by having obstacles like the Rolling Maruta (the original, not the Sandan/"drop" version from 13-17, provided it gets past H&S) and Jump Hang return alongside interesting new obstacles like the Lumberjack Climb and 31's Orugoru ("Music Box"). For Stage 2, knowing what Inui's interests are in doing with it (making it more of a water course rather than a speed-based one), I'd like to see some completely new obstacles which (aside from the "no touching the water") would still revolve around the same objective that we're used to: to clear all of the stage's obstacles in a set amount of time. Stage 3 should go entirely back to a stamina-based course in which every obstacles is to be feared (like we saw in 14-17) rather than a stage that is primarily about landing the jump(s) on the current version of the Cliffhanger. Also, I hope the tradition of "nobody reaches the Final Stage after a kanzenseiha tournament" continues (don't get me wrong, I want people to do well, but the idea of the course striking back this time around seems most fitting and brings the reality of SASUKE's difficulty back to everyone). Having more obstacles which are difficult to near-impossible to replicate would also be neat and IMO increase the likelihood of this era's longevity. If possible, it would be neat to see fans play a role once again in proposing new obstacle ideas, where the "grand prize" winner would have an invitation to SASUKE 32 to see it potentially take out some competitors. Coincidentally, the last three post-win "nobody reaches the Final Stage after a kanzenseiha tournament" has happened due to a Cliffhanger variation (18: Shin-Cliffhanger, 25: Ultimate Cliffhanger, 28: Cr*zy Cliffhanger) kind of due to the theme of the stage, though the 2nd half of 18's course and the original post-Yuuji win Stage 3 course looked brutal. So I agree on hoping that continues, but would like to see something else end it. The issue is like the Wall in Stage One, Cliffhanger seemingly has 'plot armor' if you will, even if Inui wants to get rid of it. But if he comes up with something that could limit the backlash, I'm all ears to see what he does. I would love to hope/predict that if Shunsuke Nagasaki participates again, the poor guy at least gets his runs shown in full. He's a former finalist and has done the average 3rd Stage performance in this era. Guy kind deserves a fluff piece honestly, but I'll settle just for a no digest run with no fanfare.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 27, 2016 10:09:11 GMT -5
This is the show that had to scale back courses for budget reasons, yet people want these rigs around every obstacle... That wasn't what I meant. I meant the slow-mo effects. Bullet time rigs are impossible to use on a show like SASUKE due to their shape and size. I was referring to people who wanted 360 degree shots, you might not realize it but that's the kind of rig you need to get those kind of shots...
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Post by Philip on Mar 27, 2016 10:12:49 GMT -5
I want the Body Prop. IMO one of the hardest obstacles in Sasuke history, and if ANW is anything to go by it still holds up today. I remember Morimoto saying he didn't want it, but it's a renewal that HE caused lol
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Post by gt4dom on Mar 27, 2016 11:07:15 GMT -5
Stage 1 made slightly easier so we see 25+ on Stage 2, stage 2 made more on balance and less on salmon laddering/swimming, stage 3 overall mafe really hard but testing lots of muscles rather than just grip strength. Also I wanna see Stage 4 from the end of 17 which looked awesome and had 3 bits to it Also should be a ban on Isaac Caldiero cus he's an idiot. Oh and a Aoki outta nowhere would be cool
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 11:07:36 GMT -5
I want the Body Prop. IMO one of the hardest obstacles in Sasuke history, and if ANW is anything to go by it still holds up today. I remember Morimoto saying he didn't want it, but it's a renewal that HE caused lol I want the Body Prop because I train on it in my school hallways! {Spoiler}
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 27, 2016 11:12:56 GMT -5
I want the Body Prop. IMO one of the hardest obstacles in Sasuke history, and if ANW is anything to go by it still holds up today. I remember Morimoto saying he didn't want it, but it's a renewal that HE caused lol I want the Body Prop because I train on it in my school hallways! {Spoiler} That must get you all the girls...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 11:37:51 GMT -5
I want the Body Prop because I train on it in my school hallways! {Spoiler} That must get you all the girls... I already have a girlfriend
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 27, 2016 11:49:31 GMT -5
That must get you all the girls... I already have a girlfriend She must have really liked your Body Prop skills then
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 11:57:14 GMT -5
I already have a girlfriend She must have really liked your Body Prop skills then And my Spider Walk skills {Spoiler}
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 27, 2016 13:32:53 GMT -5
She must have really liked your Body Prop skills then And my Spider Walk skills {Spoiler} "Logan, time for exams, follow me". You smile. "Nope". Spider Walks down hall, and then climbs a rope through the ceiling into a waiting helicoper...
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Mar 27, 2016 13:53:35 GMT -5
Am I the only one who wants obstacles like the Rope Reverse and the Reverse Fly to return? I kinda like those 2 and DANG IT I WANT TO SEE SHINGO ATTEMPT THEM!
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 27, 2016 14:17:25 GMT -5
Am I the only one who wants obstacles like the Rope Reverse and the Reverse Fly to return? I kinda like those 2 and DANG IT I WANT TO SEE SHINGO ATTEMPT THEM! I doubt the Reverse Fly would pass H & S these days... :/
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Post by TCM on Mar 27, 2016 15:17:56 GMT -5
The Halfpipe Attack would be considered a death trap with the small, wooden plank landing now. Health and safety is obviously important, but you have to trust the people that they know what they're doing both from a construction/testing standpoint and a competitor standpoint. We've seen unsafe obstacles get through and made safer or discarded next tournament, but if the Backstream can make it through H&S every time what with its tendency in the past to cause good swimmers to be helped out (and I'm one of the like, eight people who like the obstacle), I'm certain some leeway of the imagination can be given. The Rising-era Spin Bridge was certainly a certifiable death trap.
Personally, I would think the Salmon Ladder Kudari would be considered unsafe considering the body control necessary to go down the rungs but that got through. They need to be consistent, because every obstacle has a risk to it.
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 27, 2016 16:43:11 GMT -5
The Halfpipe Attack would be considered a death trap with the small, wooden plank landing now. Health and safety is obviously important, but you have to trust the people that they know what they're doing both from a construction/testing standpoint and a competitor standpoint. We've seen unsafe obstacles get through and made safer or discarded next tournament, but if the Backstream can make it through H&S every time what with its tendency in the past to cause good swimmers to be helped out (and I'm one of the like, eight people who like the obstacle), I'm certain some leeway of the imagination can be given. The Rising-era Spin Bridge was certainly a certifiable death trap. Personally, I would think the Salmon Ladder Kudari would be considered unsafe considering the body control necessary to go down the rungs but that got through. They need to be consistent, because every obstacle has a risk to it. Agreed. But with the Halfpipe Attack, couldn't they replace the solid wood landing platform with a pontoon, like with the Lumberjack Climb?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 17:06:35 GMT -5
And my Spider Walk skills {Spoiler} "Logan, time for exams, follow me". You smile. "Nope". Spider Walks down hall, and then climbs a rope through the ceiling into a waiting helicoper... I actually did that in Physical Education class and got an A+. True story bro, ask my teacher for verification.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 27, 2016 17:12:29 GMT -5
The Halfpipe Attack would be considered a death trap with the small, wooden plank landing now. Health and safety is obviously important, but you have to trust the people that they know what they're doing both from a construction/testing standpoint and a competitor standpoint. We've seen unsafe obstacles get through and made safer or discarded next tournament, but if the Backstream can make it through H&S every time what with its tendency in the past to cause good swimmers to be helped out (and I'm one of the like, eight people who like the obstacle), I'm certain some leeway of the imagination can be given. The Rising-era Spin Bridge was certainly a certifiable death trap. Personally, I would think the Salmon Ladder Kudari would be considered unsafe considering the body control necessary to go down the rungs but that got through. They need to be consistent, because every obstacle has a risk to it. Agreed. But with the Halfpipe Attack, couldn't they replace the solid wood landing platform with a pontoon, like with the Lumberjack Climb? I mean theoretically they could go back to the 19-24/26 landing pad if they really wanted the obstacle but honestly gotten to the point it's not as credible of an obstacle as it used to be, everyone is too used to it at this point
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Post by SasukeForever on Mar 27, 2016 18:42:22 GMT -5
Agreed. But with the Halfpipe Attack, couldn't they replace the solid wood landing platform with a pontoon, like with the Lumberjack Climb? I mean theoretically they could go back to the 19-24/26 landing pad if they really wanted the obstacle but honestly gotten to the point it's not as credible of an obstacle as it used to be, everyone is too used to it at this point And TBF there was the one American who broke his ankle on THAT landing in 23, I think it was Paul Darnell but not sure on it...basically it's not a very safe obstacle for H&S regardless
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 27, 2016 18:46:43 GMT -5
I mean theoretically they could go back to the 19-24/26 landing pad if they really wanted the obstacle but honestly gotten to the point it's not as credible of an obstacle as it used to be, everyone is too used to it at this point And TBF there was the one American who broke his ankle on THAT landing in 23, I think it was Paul Darnell but not sure on it...basically it's not a very safe obstacle for H&S regardless Yes it was Paul Darnell but yeah that was more a fluke that could happen to anyone and they fixed it by lowering the rope in 24 and kept it low in 26 so people wouldn't drop onto it, 27 was a poorly designed dangerous nightmare
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Post by SasukeForever on Mar 27, 2016 18:54:12 GMT -5
And TBF there was the one American who broke his ankle on THAT landing in 23, I think it was Paul Darnell but not sure on it...basically it's not a very safe obstacle for H&S regardless Yes it was Paul Darnell but yeah that was more a fluke that could happen to anyone and they fixed it by lowering the rope in 24 and kept it low in 26 so people wouldn't drop onto it, 27 was a poorly designed dangerous nightmare Still a potentially dangerous obstacle in terms of H&S, just because of the potential drop even if you miss the rope is pretty high
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