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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 13, 2016 13:40:59 GMT -5
It's easy to imagine him being a jerk to both NBC and Geoff. I'm sure it took several forms and unless he took a swing at somebody, I don't think the details are really that important. It's done. He's gone. It's probably for the best. It doesn't come across as a very serious goal to go to Sasuke. I think it was just a random thought, but it sounds like you don't need to worry about it happening anyway. That's the point.. it's not. He's actively trying to get to Japan. I'm trying to put out those fires. Arsenette... as passionate as you are about Sasuke... you're still only human. I doubt there is much you can possibly do to keep people you dislike out of Sasuke. Just let the events run their course and accept that no matter how hard we rage on the forums, massive TV corporations don't care what we think at all...
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Post by arsenette on Mar 13, 2016 14:06:48 GMT -5
I know that. I don't have power. But I like making sure they are hearing the entire story rather than just one side. That's what I am required to do and I'm doing that. It's an understanding we came up with and I'm holding my end of the bargain. My job is to protect the image of Sasuke here in the West. I could care less about some idiot or ANW. If it even implicates Sasuke in any way it goes into my territory and I'm the only boot on the ground here in the USA without a vested interest in NBC. I'm literally the only thing left here thanks to that whole debacle with NBC anyway. I've been working to keep Americans in Sasuke and hopefully expand to other countries being allowed back in. We got it to living/working in Japan and that last loophole of ASEAN with Drew. Drew is fine with Inui. That has been taken care of almost immediately and how Inui edited the footage proved that he was worth saving so I'm not worried about that. Isaac they don't know and it's my job to let them know. They still have to deal with NBC in the long run and they deserve getting the whole story. Let the chips lie where they fall.
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 13, 2016 14:24:20 GMT -5
I know that. I don't have power. But I like making sure they are hearing the entire story rather than just one side. That's what I am required to do and I'm doing that. It's an understanding we came up with and I'm holding my end of the bargain. My job is to protect the image of Sasuke here in the West. I could care less about some idiot or ANW. If it even implicates Sasuke in any way it goes into my territory and I'm the only boot on the ground here in the USA without a vested interest in NBC. I'm literally the only thing left here thanks to that whole debacle with NBC anyway. I've been working to keep Americans in Sasuke and hopefully expand to other countries being allowed back in. We got it to living/working in Japan and that last loophole of ASEAN with Drew. Drew is fine with Inui. That has been taken care of almost immediately and how Inui edited the footage proved that he was worth saving so I'm not worried about that. Isaac they don't know and it's my job to let them know. They still have to deal with NBC in the long run and they deserve getting the whole story. Let the chips lie where they fall. Now that you have lied out your intentions like this, I completely agree. Keep up the good work!
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Post by supremekai on Mar 13, 2016 15:52:39 GMT -5
I know that. I don't have power. But I like making sure they are hearing the entire story rather than just one side. That's what I am required to do and I'm doing that. It's an understanding we came up with and I'm holding my end of the bargain. My job is to protect the image of Sasuke here in the West. I could care less about some idiot or ANW. If it even implicates Sasuke in any way it goes into my territory and I'm the only boot on the ground here in the USA without a vested interest in NBC. I'm literally the only thing left here thanks to that whole debacle with NBC anyway. I've been working to keep Americans in Sasuke and hopefully expand to other countries being allowed back in. We got it to living/working in Japan and that last loophole of ASEAN with Drew. Drew is fine with Inui. That has been taken care of almost immediately and how Inui edited the footage proved that he was worth saving so I'm not worried about that. Isaac they don't know and it's my job to let them know. They still have to deal with NBC in the long run and they deserve getting the whole story. Let the chips lie where they fall. Now that you have lied out your intentions like this, I completely agree. Keep up the good work! Isaac is a bad person and he's ungrateful and backstabbing but that shouldn't affect him being allowed to compete on sasuke. The right for Americans to compete on sasuke shouldn't be based on their personality/integrity, it should be based on athletic merit. Drew wasn't invited because he was nice and kind, he was invited because he won the world cup. Isaac shouldn't be barred entry for bad behaviour, he should be allowed because he won ANW7. I'm no fan of that cretin, I'm just saying the facts. *** Edit: wow, seems I haven't read all the new info about blacklisting and whatnot, damn ***
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 13, 2016 15:57:01 GMT -5
Now that you have lied out your intentions like this, I completely agree. Keep up the good work! Isaac is a bad person and he's ungrateful and backstabbing but that shouldn't affect him being allowed to compete on sasuke. The right for Americans to compete on sasuke shouldn't be based on their personality/integrity, it should be based on athletic merit. Drew wasn't invited because he was nice and kind, he was invited because he won the world cup. Isaac shouldn't be barred entry for bad behaviour, he should be allowed because he won ANW7. I'm no fan of that cretin, I'm just saying the facts. My thoughts exactly. Even in Sasuke trials, before interviews, the numbers are worn down in a test of athletic strength. Sasuke isn't reality TV, and you constantly complain about NBC focusing too much on personalities. Fine. Judge people on there ability to clear, like new competitors, like the Black Tigers. But don't have one set of standards for Japanese, and another for American heavy-hitters.
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 13, 2016 16:03:53 GMT -5
Now that you have lied out your intentions like this, I completely agree. Keep up the good work! Isaac is a bad person and he's ungrateful and backstabbing but that shouldn't affect him being allowed to compete on sasuke. The right for Americans to compete on sasuke shouldn't be based on their personality/integrity, it should be based on athletic merit. Drew wasn't invited because he was nice and kind, he was invited because he won the world cup. Isaac shouldn't be barred entry for bad behaviour, he should be allowed because he won ANW7. I'm no fan of that cretin, I'm just saying the facts. *** Edit: wow, seems I haven't read all the new info about blacklisting and whatnot, damn *** Nothing is confirmed at this point. We are inferring that he may be blacklisted based on the extremely limited facts we have. Other than the fact that he isn't competing in ANW 8, nothing is confirmed and everything else is speculation. We were simply making judgements on his character based on his pathetic "statement".
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 13, 2016 16:12:56 GMT -5
Don't see why he'd be blacklisted when he said himself he may come back to compete again.
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Post by Kninja on Mar 13, 2016 16:30:27 GMT -5
Anyone who actually knows Isaac well enough knows he is one of the most chill guys out there. I can't speak for everyone but I know he has been nothing but nice to me, and everyone around me, and helped me along with my ninja training when he could have easily ignored me. I was friends with Isaac before he won, and remain very good friends after, no backstabbing or any of the other things mentioned in this thread haha!
I think it is a little unfair to judge someone you know almost nothing about.
Just had to say something as this thread is getting out of hand and Isaac is one of the coolest guys I know!
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Post by ninjavern on Mar 13, 2016 17:16:35 GMT -5
Never met Isaac but he was a great competitor. Never was he one of my favorites, it seemed clear from the beginning he had a single mission and would not be a life long ambassador of ANW. Probably most of the reason he wasnt one of my favs but im not mad at him. If his heart isn't into it I'd rather he step aside and give a new guy an opportunity anyways.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 13, 2016 18:22:11 GMT -5
Don't see why he'd be blacklisted when he said himself he may come back to compete again. Just because he is banned doesn't mean he realizes he's on the ban list, Jonathan Sharp Brown is confirmed to be banned (which means no competing (walk on included) or testing) and yet he still doesn't realize he's banned and tried to be part of the "walk on line" (the unsanctioned one but didn't realize it was against the rules) in Atlanta already
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Post by arsenette on Mar 13, 2016 18:59:10 GMT -5
LOL this is like the Yamada situation all over again. Those who vehemently defend someone they like will ignore all other information then come sending me messages to get information that they aren't privy to as if it's my problem. Epic.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 13, 2016 18:59:42 GMT -5
It matters if he's blacklisted from ANW for poor sportsmanship to the point where NBC is wiping him from existence then tries to get on Sasuke. Sasuke is my main goal and the only reason why I care. He does not belong in Sasuke if he was fired from his previous job. THAT is why it matters. I could care less about Isaac as a person. I care about Sasuke and what he brings because he's trying to weasel around going behind people's backs to get on my show. Luckily the mechanism is in place to stop it. Again, this is so much more difficult with only 1/8th of the information being public. For the rest of us that know more it is a horrible situation. I'm not playing devil's advocate here, and I am certainly not on the side of defending Isaac, but I don't fault other people for taking a more defensive stance. They clearly don't know certain information that you know, and that is obviously going to make a difference in how you and other people view him. You have more information and a more informed view. Speaking personally, I probably would be playing devil's advocate as well if I hadn't met him in person myself. You gotta look at it from an outsider's perspective. It's clearly frustrating to you since you have the information to feel solidified in your opinion, but there are others that don't. All they really have is a few people saying "Trust me. There is more to the story". I don't think they should be faulted for being skeptical. For the record, I don't know any backstage details. I've held my same opinion on Isaac since I met him in ANW5. I just feel validated now.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 13, 2016 19:01:26 GMT -5
It matters if he's blacklisted from ANW for poor sportsmanship to the point where NBC is wiping him from existence then tries to get on Sasuke. Sasuke is my main goal and the only reason why I care. He does not belong in Sasuke if he was fired from his previous job. THAT is why it matters. I could care less about Isaac as a person. I care about Sasuke and what he brings because he's trying to weasel around going behind people's backs to get on my show. Luckily the mechanism is in place to stop it. Again, this is so much more difficult with only 1/8th of the information being public. For the rest of us that know more it is a horrible situation. I'm not playing devil's advocate here, and I am certainly not on the side of defending Isaac, but I don't fault other people for taking a more defensive stance. They clearly don't know certain information that you know, and that is obviously going to make a difference in how you and other people view him. You have more information and a more informed view. Speaking personally, I probably would be playing devil's advocate as well if I hadn't met him in person myself. You gotta look at it from an outsider's perspective. It's clearly frustrating to you since you have the information to feel solidified in your opinion, but there are others that don't. All they really have is a few people saying "Trust me. There is more to the story". I don't think they should be faulted for being skeptical. For the record, I don't know any backstage details. Oh I understand but I find it funny how it's "zomg let's bombard Arsenette with details again". I wonder if Geoff is being bombarded again since he confirmed more information than I did but somehow it's a gang up on Arsenette thread again. LOL I just shake my head.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 13, 2016 19:10:13 GMT -5
It's your Akiyama avatar. It's just so inviting.
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Post by Geoffnotjeff on Mar 13, 2016 21:10:01 GMT -5
Don't see why he'd be blacklisted when he said himself he may come back to compete again. Just because he is banned doesn't mean he realizes he's on the ban list, Jonathan Sharp Brown is confirmed to be banned (which means no competing (walk on included) or testing) and yet he still doesn't realize he's banned and tried to be part of the "walk on line" (the unsanctioned one but didn't realize it was against the rules) in Atlanta already I dont think either of them are banned. Im pretty sure JB isnt banned and i would be shocked if Isaac was banned, he didnt do anything to deserve that, afaik. I know there was a guy this year that snuck onto stage 3 at some point and he was a competitor from the Venice region. He WAS banned for life.
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Post by dynamiteneon on Mar 13, 2016 21:32:00 GMT -5
Don't see why he'd be blacklisted when he said himself he may come back to compete again. Just because he is banned doesn't mean he realizes he's on the ban list, Jonathan Sharp Brown is confirmed to be banned (which means no competing (walk on included) or testing) and yet he still doesn't realize he's banned and tried to be part of the "walk on line" (the unsanctioned one but didn't realize it was against the rules) in Atlanta already What's this about jb being confirmed banned? For what, dudes great
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Post by thatoneuser on Mar 13, 2016 22:02:40 GMT -5
Just because he is banned doesn't mean he realizes he's on the ban list, Jonathan Sharp Brown is confirmed to be banned (which means no competing (walk on included) or testing) and yet he still doesn't realize he's banned and tried to be part of the "walk on line" (the unsanctioned one but didn't realize it was against the rules) in Atlanta already What's this about jb being confirmed banned? For what, dudes great Among other things, making a complete mockery of his run in Orlando last year (namely, Tope del Maruta)
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 13, 2016 22:08:59 GMT -5
Just because he is banned doesn't mean he realizes he's on the ban list, Jonathan Sharp Brown is confirmed to be banned (which means no competing (walk on included) or testing) and yet he still doesn't realize he's banned and tried to be part of the "walk on line" (the unsanctioned one but didn't realize it was against the rules) in Atlanta already What's this about jb being confirmed banned? For what, dudes great He was deemed a danger to himself for pulling this, NBC doesn't want the bad publicity of someone getting paralyzed or killing themselves because they did something stupid on their course... That kind of move belongs in a wrestling ring, not at the Rolling Log
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Post by dynamiteneon on Mar 13, 2016 22:51:14 GMT -5
Lmao, I thought that would propel him to legend status not get him blacklisted... it looks like he still communicates with production and casting though so are you sure he's blacklisted?
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Post by Badalight on Mar 14, 2016 0:49:33 GMT -5
Why even show it on TV if they're going to deem in unsafe?
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