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Post by Achiereot on Oct 1, 2015 6:06:39 GMT -5
I mean he quit his job just to train for ANW full time all year in 2 years? Contributing with nothing to society or to his family? That's just crazy imo and I didn't at all root for him in ANW 7. What do you guys think?
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Post by YGK on Oct 1, 2015 7:14:03 GMT -5
Wait till you read about Katsumi Yamada. Brian Arnold has got nothing on him.
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Post by higeboshi on Oct 1, 2015 9:44:05 GMT -5
... I didn't at all root for him in ANW 7. What do you guys think? My wife said he was one of the guys clapping and/or cheering for me when I was testing in Kansas City this year (though, I couldn't hear anything else over Michelle Warnky's yelling on the video), so I'm contractually obligated to root for him, too.
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Post by ninjavern on Oct 1, 2015 15:42:30 GMT -5
Wow. That's ignorance.
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Post by blah123 on Oct 1, 2015 17:24:19 GMT -5
I don't know the guy personally. But keep in mind that what you hear on TV, i.e. what NBC tells you, isn't always 100% factual. They still market Joseph Moravsky as "The Weatherman", but the dude has never been an actual weatherman. As I recall, he studied meteorology in college, and now works at a gym teaching gymnastics or as a trainer or something. They said Matt Esser is a professional Frisbee player, but no way is that his profession. These are just things NBC says to make competitors sound more interesting. I would not put it past them one bit if Brian Arnold didn't actually quit his job. Or maybe he's job hunting. Or maybe he went back to school. You never know someone's actual personal story from just seeing the NBC-ified version of them. But like I said, I've never met the guy, so I don't really know (and neither do you). For what it's worth, he seems like a pretty genuine dude, at least that's the vibe I get.
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Post by thatoneuser on Oct 1, 2015 17:42:36 GMT -5
He quit to be a stay-at-home dad and a full-time rock climber. NBC lied. What a shocker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 17:47:13 GMT -5
Brian has made some questionable life choices, but I haven't heard from anyone about if he's good or bad. I think I've heard someone say he's humble, but I'm not entirely sure. I remember how much of a prick Joe Moravsky was just be reading his comments on RR and Facebook.
But in all honesty, we go on what we see or hear about. Take Yamada for example. We know he's a spotlight stealing jackass who's on his last strike because we've heard it from so many people in Japan and more so from SASUKE blogs. Then we have Yukio Iketani who we know mocked his own teammates openly and mocked Naoki when he failed the wall in 24 (which makes him the butt of his own joke because Naoki made it further). We also have Hiromichi Sato who only shows up to SASUKE to eat the f***ing camera steal screen time and be smug. And might as well say Patrick Cusic for being whiny about his failures and not accepting his weaknesses (though it made me like Evan Dollard when he not only pulled Patrick's weight, but earned his own spot).
What I'm trying to say is from what I know Brian seems okay, but I don't agree with his choices.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 2, 2015 20:38:57 GMT -5
Brian Arnold is a swell guy. He was talking to my friends and family in KC as I was waiting for my run (I was 5th in my group of 5 that was called up).
I havn't had too many personal interactions with him, but I have yet to hear a bad thing about him. Also do we need dedicated "hate threads" on this forum? That seems like incredibly poor tastes. There are people on this forum that are good friends with him.
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Post by marsllama on Oct 3, 2015 1:29:34 GMT -5
I've never had any personal experience with him but all the people I've spoken to who... You know... Actually met him say he's a great guy.
Can I also remind you that if Jessie, Meagan, Kacy, Michelle or any other female competitor had kids and chose to be a full-time parent (not an easy job in itself) while still sticking at their passions, which is essentially what Brian is doing, almost nobody would bat an eyelid.
Also to say he's contributing nothing to society or his family? He and his partner are raising children which contributes a great deal to both.
You're fully allowed your opinions on him or any other competitor, but at the very least come up with a more thoughtful thread title next time.
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Post by ninjavern on Oct 3, 2015 11:38:38 GMT -5
I play chess with him on a regular basis, and bada is right. This is just piss poor taste. Especially from people that have no clue what they are talking about. First off, it's really nobody's business and the fact you try to speak on behalf of HIS family is incredible ignorant. Secondly, he spends a lot of time doing charitable stuff for children. Motivational speaking, kids ninja camps, etc.
"Contributing with nothing to society or to his family? That's just crazy imo"
Your opinion is kinda worthless.... imo.
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Post by Achiereot on Oct 3, 2015 12:29:59 GMT -5
He may be a cool guy, but to me he kinda comes across as cocky when I saw him as the first person ever when he waited to press the buzzer untill the last second in Vegas last year which eventually backfired when he got caught up on the rope jungle. He spends so much time training for these obstacles, did he never once think about the consequences for doing that? To run first is one of the worst situations you can be in in a very challenging obstacle course and most competitors who run first always end up in the water and it also sounds to me like in many of his interviews that he is indeed very obsessed with the 1 million dollar prize and it sound like he did admit himself that he did quit his job when he said last season that everybody thinks he's crazy for going all in.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 3, 2015 12:58:58 GMT -5
1: He wanted to go first to have extra time to rest for Stage 3, it may not have been a great strategy but it was a strategy none the less, did it backfire? Yes, we all make mistakes. 2: He quit his time to be a stay at home dad and spun that to NBC to make it seem like it was for ANW and NBC exaggerated it, the submission process is a b**** and no matter what records you set you're never guaranteed to return so I don't blame him for exaggerating to NBC, it is what you have to do 3: So? It's a million f'ing dollars, even the people who compete for the love of the sport are still interested, I don't blame someone, I've been into Sasuke (and later ANW when it came to existence later on) since I discovered it in 2007 and am interested overall, do I still care about the million dollars? Yes, because it's a million f***ing dollars, it'd be stupid for anyone not to be interested, especially someone with a family, you know how useful a million dollars is for a family? Pretty useful...
Now I've barely spoken with Brian personally but I know plenty of people who have and they have plenty of good things to say about him, the only faults with Brian I've heard are people just rolling with the exaggerations NBC rolls with and blowing those even farther out or proportion. I don't like to speak negatively of competitors but even if I were, Brian would definitely not be someone who would deserve it (If anyone maybe Isaac's handling of the prize/title incident but that's a horse that's been beaten to death...), you're taking NBC exaggerations and acting like he's another Yamada Katsumi when he's far from it...
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Post by thatoneuser on Oct 3, 2015 14:16:20 GMT -5
It occurred to me that I have actually spoken to Brian on two occasions - he is very kind and personable, and I would even say a little shy (but that might have been my perception). I think you can gather from the fact that several people who have been here far longer than you have are denying your notions that this Brian Arnold "hate" absurd.
While we're on the subject, Joe Moravsky isn't a "prick". (Quotations because it's someone else's word, not mine.) Judging him based on one comment on Arsenette's blog is an unfair way to judge him, especially if you don't know him. Honestly, he's a good guy. Maybe you don't like him because he's not a "SASUKE elitist" like some of the older guys are but that's a ridiculous reason to not like someone.
The reason I love the ANW community so much is because 99.9% of people are so kind and genuinely caring about others. There are very few people that I have issues with and that's because of something they've done personally to me. Even hating Isaac because he didn't give up any of his comparative windfall to Geoff that he had no obligation to do is ridiculous. I fear that you all take this approach in your personal lives and are losing friends as a result. Don't hate people unless they do something to you. Super simple stuff.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 3, 2015 20:57:46 GMT -5
Well, I don't hate Isaac or anything, but he is quite cocky which sets some people off (showing off to the crowd in the middle of an obstacle, really?). Plus some of his comments after winning (claiming to be the only champion, etc). Still not enough to HATE someone.
And I can say from personal experience, I'd MUCH rather go first than last. I don't blame Brian at all for wanting to get stage 2 done with. I don't care if waiting gives you an "advantage" from watching other people, it's a big disadvantage in other ways for those of us who can't handle pressure... and even the BEST competitors feel the pressure. I'd do what Brian did in a heartbeat.
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Post by YGK on Oct 3, 2015 21:11:28 GMT -5
Nobody is worth hating. Just disagree with what he does, or ignore and pretend it isn't there. Hate isn't worth the energy. As for the anw competitors, we should separate their personal (or outside anw) lives from that as competitors on the course. Joe's comments on rr were probably made from athlete's standpoint, as were Issac's. Reflects nothing about them as people. You may disagree with them as athletes but it doesn't mean anything about them as a person.
It works same for people in other fields eg music. Just look at people like Morrissey or the Gallaghers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 11:13:13 GMT -5
Dont worry, I don't like him either...
I LOVE HIM!!!
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Post by Cosmic Castaway on Oct 19, 2015 15:40:15 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with Brian Arnold over anything but i DO have a problem with Isaac Caldiero making silly poses for the audience in the middle of muscle taxing obstacles. If i was ever competing, i guess you could lump me in with Kane Kosugi in terms of how seriously i would take the opportunity of defeating Midoriyama.
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Post by SasukeDoctor on Oct 19, 2015 21:58:41 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with Brian Arnold over anything but i DO have a problem with Isaac Caldiero making silly poses for the audience in the middle of muscle taxing obstacles. If i was ever competing, i guess you could lump me in with Kane Kosugi in terms of how seriously i would take the opportunity of defeating Midoriyama. So you compete 5 times, reach the final stage in the rain, time out, and never return because of Monster9 putting you in a game without your permission? Because that's serious.
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Post by Cosmic Castaway on Oct 20, 2015 12:09:07 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with Brian Arnold over anything but i DO have a problem with Isaac Caldiero making silly poses for the audience in the middle of muscle taxing obstacles. If i was ever competing, i guess you could lump me in with Kane Kosugi in terms of how seriously i would take the opportunity of defeating Midoriyama. So you compete 5 times, reach the final stage in the rain, time out, and never return because of Monster9 putting you in a game without your permission? Because that's serious. I mean more in terms of never smiling in front of the camera and pissing off Katsumi Yamada for some reason when i clear Stage 1.
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Post by SasukeDoctor on Oct 20, 2015 13:06:11 GMT -5
So you compete 5 times, reach the final stage in the rain, time out, and never return because of Monster9 putting you in a game without your permission? Because that's serious. I mean more in terms of never smiling in front of the camera and pissing off Katsumi Yamada for some reason when i clear Stage 1. Oh.
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