SASUKE 31: Keep, Modify, Destroy (Spoilers)

[Deleted]

Been ages since I started a thread so what the hey...

Roller Hill (Modify: Top barrels roll)
Log Grip (Destroy)
Music Box (Keep)
Jump Hang Kai (Keep)
Tackle (Destroy)
Soritatsu Kabe (Keep)
Tarzan Rope (Keep)
Lumberjack Climb (Modify: Tilt it at a slight angle)

Cross Slider (Modify: Make track longer)
Nobori Salmon Ladder (Keep)
Kudari Salmon Ladder (Keep)
Spider Walk (Keep)
Spider Drop (Keep)
Backstream (Destroy)
Wall Lifting (Destroy)

Drum Hopper (Keep)
Iron Paddler (Destroy)
Sidewinder (Modify: Make columns shorter)
Crazy Cliffhanger (Modify)
Vertical Limit (Destroy)
Pipe Slider (Modify: 2 pipe sliders, just like 2 - 13, only no bar to rest in between)

Spider Climb (Destroy)
Tsuna Nobori (Keep)

[SasukeForever]

This will be interesting with a Kanzenseiha

1st Stage
Roller Hill (Keep)
Log Grip (Modify, may be a little ambitious but a trampoline Jump to the log grip would be cool )
Music Box (Destroy)
Jump Hang Kai (Destroy)
Tackle (Destroy)
Warped Wall (Keep)
Tarzan Rope (Destroy, Swing Mast anyone???)
Lumberjack Climb (Modify, put it on a slight backwards angle, make it harder.

2nd Stage
Cross Slider (Destroy)
Salmon Ladder + Kudari Salmon Ladder (Destroy)
Spider Walk + Spider Drop (Destroy)
Backstream (Destroy)
Wall Lifting (Modify, lower them to the ground PLEASE)

3rd Stage
Drum Hopper (Modify, have it go up)
Iron Paddler (Destroy)
Sidewinder (Keep)
Crazy Cliffhanger (Destroy, new cliffhanger should include multiple CCH jumps)
Vertical Limit (Modify, have it on an incline, gap in the middle still)
Pipe Slider (Destroy, bring back Flying Bar, give it a chance to shine )

Final Stage
Destroy of course

[thebobmaster]

Roller Hill (Keep. It was a pretty cool first obstacle, and took out some big name obstacles)
Log Grip (Modify. Possibly make it rotate as it's going down.)
Music Box (Keep. It was a fairly tense obstacle due to that dismount being open to screw-ups.)
Jump Hang Kai (Keep)
Tackle (Destroy. It was a cool idea, but it was somewhat boring to watch.)
Soritatsu Kabe (Keep. It's a classic, and at least partially due to the Tackle, took out some big name competitors.)
Tarzan Rope (Destroy. They need something besides a rope swing to get to the last obstacle. It's getting a little stale)
Lumberjack Climb (Keep. It's the best last obstacle they've had.)

Cross Slider (Keep. With two failures, it's shown that it's an obstacle to not be taken lightly.)
Nobori Salmon Ladder (Keep. Gotta have a Salmon Ladder.)
Kudari Salmon Ladder (Keep. Very cool idea, and with 100% fewer malfunctions than the SSL.)
Spider Walk (Keep. Once again, this is a classic.)
Spider Drop (Modify. Make the panels move just before the drop, to make it necessary to time your move.)
Backstream (Keep. I think I'm getting used to the Backstream now, and they seem to have made the jets decently strong without being overpowering.)
Wall Lifting (Destroy. Unlike the other classic obstacles, this is a little dull to watch, unless they are running low on time.)

Drum Hopper (Keep. It's like the Body Prop, but with only arms! What's not to like?)
Iron Paddler (Modify. Make the track a little longer.)
Sidewinder (Keep. It's had one tournament, and took a while for testers to figure out.)
Crazy Cliffhanger (Modify. I'm not sure how, but we need a Cliffhanger.)
Vertical Limit (Keep. Great obstacle, especially with that gap.)
Pipe Slider (Destroy. Like the Pipe Slider, but I'd like to see something new at the end. Maybe bring back The Flying Bar as the last obstacle?)

Spider Climb (Destroy. Bring back a taller Heavenly Ladder, to keep the pattern up.)
Tsuna Nobori (Keep. It's not the Final Stage without a rope climb.)

[Eclipse]

Roller Hill (Modify)
Log Grip (Keep)
Music Box (Keep)
Jump Hang Kai (Keep)
Tackle (Keep)
Soritatsu Kabe (Keep)
Tarzan Rope (Modify)
Lumberjack Climb (Modify)

Cross Slider (Modify)
Nobori Salmon Ladder (Keep)
Kudari Salmon Ladder (Keep)
Spider Walk (Keep)
Spider Drop (Keep)
Backstream (Modify)
{ADD NEW OBSTACLE}
Wall Lifting (Keep)

Drum Hopper (Keep)
Iron Paddler (Destroy)
Sidewinder (Modify)
Crazy Cliffhanger (Modify)
Vertical Limit (Keep)
Pipe Slider (Keep)

Spider Climb (Destroy)
Tsuna Nobori (Keep)

[Philip]

DESTROY EVERYTHING. 2 reasons:

1) There was a Kanzenseiha for crying out loud.
2) I'm sure Inui wants to replace everything as well.

[peytonblitz]

Stage 1
Rolling Hill (Keep, it was a good obstacle that would still take out many if it was kept there)
Log Grip (Destroy, I'm sick of this obstacle)
Music Box (Keep, I don't know I just liked it)
Jump Hang Kai (Destroy)
Tackle (Keep, makes the small competitors have to train for more upper body)
Warped Wall (I have no idea what I want with this, after the Tackle it is good, but without it we only get like 3 or 4 fails on it per year)
Tarzan Rope (Destroy I agree with putting the Swing Mast here)
Lumberjack Climb (Modify, I don't know how but modify)

Stage 2
Cross Slider (I don't know)
Salmon Ladder Nobori/Kudari (Keep we only had it in one tournament and it was fun to watch)
Spider Walk/Drop (Destroy it is fun to watch but nobody has failed it in the four tournaments it has been in)
Backstream (Keep, I know a lot of people hate this obstacle, but I'm not afraid to say it was my favorite Stage 2 obstacle in this whole generation, it just took a few tournaments to get it perfect in 30/31)
Wall Lift (Keep)

Stage 3
Drum Hopper (Modify somehow)
Iron Paddler (Destroy, I know it is just good for training but I think the Drum Hopper and Sidewinder R can do it just fine)
Sidewinder R (Keep, I know it is capable of being failed and I want it to have its time)
Crazy Cliffhanger (Modify, replace with new Cliffhanger preferably with a jump and a drop)
Vertical Limit (Keep)
Pipe Slider (Modify somehow)

Final Stage

Destroy

[Amber]

It was a Kanzenseiha... most of the course should be destroyed. A few obstacles might stay like the wall and the Wall Lift and maybe even like the Music box and Sidewinder... aside from that most of it SHOULD be destroyed IMO.

[Deleted]

Jul 2, 2015 13:09:20 GMT -5 Amber said:

It was a Kanzenseiha... most of the course should be destroyed. A few obstacles might stay like the wall and the Wall Lift and maybe even like the Music box and Sidewinder... aside from that most of it SHOULD be destroyed IMO.

Probably, but they've still got H&S to deal with so I'm foreseeing that there won't be as many ideas able to be used.

[dyer]

I wonder if obstacles like the ultimate cliffhanger and the double salmon ladder would have even existed if h&s was there when m9 was still in control........

[cole77000]

I would guess that most obstacles would be scrapped for a renewal. My guess is that the following have the highest likelihood of sticking around:

- warped wall (iconic)
- wall lift (iconic)
- CCH (already pushing it with difficulty)

Although renewals tend to come with a new, harder cliffhanger, this existing CCH is wrecking people on a level not seen before. Unlike the UCH, this one is causing serious problems for very talented guys such as Hioki (2 in a row), Drew (2 in a row), Kanno (3 in a row), Takahashi (2 in a row) and Kazuma (4 in a row) tournament after tournament. If the high-level competitors still have a very low rate of completion when many of them are doing very specific training for it, that's a good sign that the designers have found the reasonable upper limit for obstacle difficulty. The CCH should stick around unchanged otherwise the whole tournament outcome will depend on one obstacle, effectively nullifying the difficulty of the rest of the course. I think the difficulty of the remaining obstacles should be increased to give the competitors a hard time.

[LusitaniaAngel313]

Roller Hill (destroy... too random for anyone to figure out)
Log Grip (keep)
Music Box (Keep)
Jump Hang Kai (Keep)
Tackle (Destroy)
Soritatsu Kabe (Keep)
Tarzan Rope (Keep)
Lumberjack Climb (destroy, the final obstacle shouldn't be so fast!)

Cross Slider (Modify: drop perhaps?)
Nobori Salmon Ladder (Keep)
Kudari Salmon Ladder (Keep)
Spider Walk (Keep)
Spider Drop (Keep)
Backstream (Destroy FOR THE LOVE OF PIZZA DESTROY!!!)
Wall Lifting (keep)

Drum Hopper (Keep)
Iron Paddler (Destroy)
Sidewinder (Modify: Make columns shorter)
Crazy Cliffhanger (destroy since it's after a win. Time to change it)
Vertical Limit (Destroy)
Pipe Slider (keep)

Spider Climb (Destroy)
Tsuna Nobori (Keep)

[detroitlolcat]

Roller Hill (Destroy. SASUKE 32 needs a renewal and that usually means the first obstacle has to go)
Log Grip (Destroy. Same reasons.)
Music Box (Destroy.)
Jump Hang Kai (Keep.)
Tackle (Keep.)
Soritatsu Kabe (Keep)
Tarzan Rope (Keep.)
Lumberjack Climb (Destroy. It's a good obstacle but I'd like to see the First Stage change a lot.)

Cross Slider (Destroy because of renewal.)
Nobori Salmon Ladder (Modify. More rungs.)
Kudari Salmon Ladder (Destroy.)
Spider Walk (Destroy)
Spider Drop (Destroy)
Backstream (Destroy)
Wall Lifting (Keep)

Drum Hopper (Destroy)
Iron Paddler (Destroy. It's been figured out.)
Sidewinder (Keep.)
Crazy Cliffhanger (Annihilate from existence.)
Vertical Limit (Keep)
Pipe Slider (Modify. At the very least lengthen the jump.)

Spider Climb (Destroy)
Tsuna Nobori (Keep)

[hashtagswag]

Anyone who says get rid of the cch is crazy .I would keep the cch and make the other obstacles much harder . The best conpetitors find it hard enough to clear the cch as it is . My bet is that they keep it the same and maybe increase the number of stage 3 obstacles. I really dont want to see stage 3 only revolve around a super hard cliffhanger that only 2 people can beat

[TCM]

Everyone who is saying destroy the Tackle...it succeeded in its goal. Nagano's heart isn't really in it anymore so can't really even consider that, but Yuuji and Ryo got too complacent in their training and paid for it. Don't blame the obstacle for doing its job.

[wrestlingfan55]

Roller Hill- don't mind. I like the obstacle but don't mind if it's replaced since it's a renewal.
Log Grip- destroy
Music Box- modify. Play music that is so *censored*ing loud that it distracts competitors
Jump Hang Kai- either modify to make it a lot harder or destroy it
Tackle- keep. It's a beauty.
Soritatsu Kabe- keep
Tarzan Rope- keep
Lumberjack Climb- destroy. Good obstacle but we need a new one. Replace with the classic Rope Climb.

Cross Slider- destroy
Nobori Salmon Ladder- destroy
Kudari Salmon Ladder- destroy
Spider Walk- keep
Spider Drop- modify to make it a bit harder
Backstream- don't mind. I love this obstacle, but I don't mind if it's replaced.
Wall Lifting- modify, get rid of the gap (though they won't).

Drum Hopper- keep but move it to a different point in the stage
Iron Paddler- destroy
Sidewinder- modify. Maybe make the punching bag thingies looser so they can swing.
Crazy Cliffhanger- destroy. New era, new Cliffhanger
Vertical Limit- modify to make it just a little bit more difficult
Pipe Slider- destroy

Spider Climb- destroy. Maybe replace it with a 12m Lumberjack Climb.
Tsuna Nobori- keep

You know what, I'd love it if they brought back Viking's final stage, the one that Nagano did. Maybe even reduce the time limit to make it ridiculous.

[2D2Will]

Stage One:
Every obstacle: KEEP
This is probably the first stage one in a while where I had no problems with the course. This is surprising considering I didn't like the old Barrel Climb and Rapid Decent, but his new combined version works.

Stage Two:
Every obstacle before the Wall Lift: KEEP
Stage Two has always been my favorite stage, but lately I've felt like it hasn't been living to its full potential. That said, I loved this Stage Two. I felt like it was back in full force, largely due to the new Salmon Ladders. This would never happen, but if it was up to me, I would have the Spider Walk & Drop swap places with the Salmon Ladders. I've even gotten used to the Backstream, largely because it feels like they finally got the balance right.
Wall Lift: MODIFY
The safety pads should reach the ground. It'll still be safe, but it'll be harder to get underneath them.

Stage Three:
Drum Hopper: MODIFY
I think the drums should alternate in height.
Iron Paddler: DESTROY
People are passing it too easily. It's time to move on.
Sidewinder: MODIFY
Either make the shorter or further apart.
Crazy Cliffhanger: MODIFY
Every champion results in a modification to the cliffhanger.
Split Vertical Limit: KEEP
Few have attempted it and it can take out more.
Pipe Slider: DESTROY
I much as I love the Pipe Slider, it's time for a new final obstacle.

Final Stage: Replace with a new tower. Duh.

[dyer]

hmm..that lumberjack climb, that final stage from uc nw3's game...that might just be the new final stage that inui is secretly planning as of now...

[cliffhanger]

Roller Hill DESTROY annoyingly difficult

Log Grip DESTROY too easy

Music Box DESTROY too fancy (this type of obstacle shouldn't be used in Sasuke)

Jump Hang Kai DESTROY it takes too long to make through the net and it isn't too skill-based, just slows down 
Tackle DESTROY this is totally antisasuke obstacle
Soritatsu Kabe MODIFY make it 10 cm taller
Tarzan Rope KEEP
Lumberjack Climb KEEP


Cross Slider DESTROY
Salmon Ladders MODIFY add height and increase gaps, not number of ladders
Spider Walk and Drop MODIFY make it harder and without drops because they suck
Backstream DESTROY 
Wall Lifting DESTROY Sasuke isn't weightlifting competition but Inui knows it and think we should get rid of all those walls. 


Drum Hopper MODIFY make each drum about 10 cm higher than the previous one
Iron Paddler DESTROY substitute with Cableway of Death
Sidewinder DESTROY cause it sucks
Crazy Cliffhanger MODIFY to next version of Cliffhanger, something like Crazy Ultimate Cliffhanger
Vertical Limit DESTROY
Pipe Slider KEEP 


Spider Climb KEEP
Tsuna Nobori KEEP



Invite more abroad competitors to increase difficulty of whole course.

[dyer]

Jul 9, 2015 6:06:45 GMT -5 cliffhanger said:

Roller Hill DESTROY annoyingly difficult

Log Grip DESTROY too easy

Music Box DESTROY too fancy (this type of obstacle shouldn't be used in Sasuke)

Jump Hang Kai DESTROY it takes too long to make through the net and it isn't too skill-based, just slows down 
Tackle DESTROY this is totally antisasuke obstacle
Soritatsu Kabe MODIFY make it 10 cm taller
Tarzan Rope KEEP
Lumberjack Climb KEEP


Cross Slider DESTROY
Salmon Ladders MODIFY add height and increase gaps, not number of ladders
Spider Walk and Drop MODIFY make it harder and without drops because they suck
Backstream DESTROY 
Wall Lifting DESTROY Sasuke isn't weightlifting competition but Inui knows it and think we should get rid of all those walls. 


Drum Hopper MODIFY make each drum about 10 cm higher than the previous one
Iron Paddler DESTROY substitute with Cableway of Death
Sidewinder DESTROY cause it sucks
Crazy Cliffhanger MODIFY to next version of Cliffhanger, something like Crazy Ultimate Cliffhanger
Vertical Limit DESTROY
Pipe Slider KEEP 


Spider Climb KEEP
Tsuna Nobori KEEP



Invite more abroad competitors to increase difficulty of whole course.

maybe if they made the final stage 25m or 30m, then maybe i could see them keeping the final stage. (only exception was 28 for the 23m rope climb) but other than that i don't see it happening

[TCM]

30 meters is 98 feet people. Safety and Health would throw a fit.