Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 18, 2016 23:32:14 GMT -5
Sorry to bump and double post but I'm on topic so...
Did a new episode air for anyone else or did my local ABC just mess up? A rerun from the Round of 32 aired this week, (I remember Beta/Overhaul and Hypershock/Warrior Clan but at that point I realized it was a rerun and just stopped watching and deleted it off the DVR)
Also just because I'm making a post anyways... Anyone else find it weird how Beta and Chomp made it so far... They can't even stay balanced, I'm not trying to be negative here but TBH they got lucky to survive so long...
The show took off for two weeks because of the Olympics. Chomp I'm surprised about but Beta doesn't surprise me at all. John Reid has been making hammer bots for almost 2 decades now and he's probably the best at it. As for the flipping, apparently both bots have magnets to help anchor them to the floor, but the floor ended up being made of a different material this year so they're not really working as designed. Beta at least can self right really easily.
Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 19, 2016 17:23:34 GMT -5
Fair enough in regards to the magnetic base and different material floor, but yeah of the two Beta at least is competent enough in righting itself, Chomp just seems to be pure luck and hoping it bounces up... Interesting to hear Beta at least had a proper plan in place for the design even if it didn't work out
Post by penguincatfish on Aug 20, 2016 18:06:32 GMT -5
Wreck destroying itself was hilarious. That fight was actually fast-forwarded in the episode so it's great to see the rest online. Wish ANW would do that.
Chomp is such a frustrating bot to watch. The recovery flaps on its side show they knew their clunky design was going to tip itself over after striking, and even righting itself on one attempt isn't a guaranteed thing like it is with Beta.
Last year's Chomp was also a giant clump of metal.
Post by skythenewark on Aug 26, 2016 15:27:57 GMT -5
Huh, a show i used to watch is back.
When I was little, I used to watch battlebots but it was sorta in a Korean Show call Robot Power, Consist of smart people wanted to win over robot competitions, on one part, had this these robot battles that was much similar to Battlebots now. As soon as I watch Battlebots, I was instantly reminded of it (sorry if i may go a little off-topic)
This is the show I'm talking about, it's best if you go to 5:57
Sometimes, It's okay for me to pursue different dreams.
And sometimes, It's okay for me to do it right now.
Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 26, 2016 16:29:21 GMT -5
When I was a kid I watched Battlebots too, although it was called Battlebots, this show is a reboot
I remember them airing some Robot Wars in america and didn't care as much, I remember there being some other robot competition thing on TV (I think it was on one of the discovery channels or something?) that wasn't really combat as much as Battlebots or Robot Wars but like obstacle courses and stuff? I forget what that was called...
EDIT: You know, this explains a lot of decisions made by the judges
Post by penguincatfish on Aug 27, 2016 2:36:00 GMT -5
Chomp took out a chain, and spent the rest of the match getting pushed around or laying on its side. It had a working weapon and its fancy automated camera system, but it still couldn't do much besides that one strike. Bite Force still went after Chomp and stayed on the offensive, shoving Chomp around the entire match, while not taking any other damage. I guess that doesn't count as aggression or control.
Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 29, 2016 15:09:39 GMT -5
I definitely agree about Chomp not having much control and Bite Force having more strategy after the loss of its primary weapon, but based on the fact Chomp landed a few more hits besides the critical one and got a hit in that crippled the primary weapon of Bite Force based on the criteria of how the matches are scored it had the edge in Aggression (evidently the most important category), also considering shoves and wedge shots are ruled to be defensive I can understand the lack of points going to Bite Force, not to mention probably counted some loss of control points getting caught on its own dislodged chain and getting hit by the floor hazard saw blades, I definitely agree Chomp shouldn't have any points for control with how awkward and unreliable of righting itself it is... I'm sure the judges also probably considered the lack of damage Bite Force did to Chomp (despite the fact Chomp is iffy with attacking and terrible at control, there is one area it's good at which is defense considering it's just a big clunky box)
Also granted as much as I dislike Chomp, the team behind Bite Force really should have protected the chain knowing the match-up beforehand considering how exposed the chain was, based on the episode it looked like there was a metal working machine backstage in the builders area so at the very least they could have made a last minute shield (like Nightmare tried to do against Beta even though that got hit by its own weapon), maybe something like this (probably a bit higher so it doesn't get hit by the spinner, but this is just a little mockup don't be so literal )
So as much as I dislike the decision and would have rather had a bot like Chomp eliminated, I completely see why they ruled it the way they did
Post by penguincatfish on Jul 4, 2017 0:00:47 GMT -5
Science Channel has picked up BattleBots! They'll begin airing Season 1 this month. Still no word on Season 3, but it'll probably be decided on how well those two seasons perform. At least there will be reruns. The good thing is they're regularly promoting it during a lot of commercial breaks. The bad thing is not many people get Science Channel, it seems.
They may have a smaller audience than ABC, but I'd hope this means future seasons could have more meaningful coverage of the science and tech aspects of the sport. Potentially, more episodes, spin-offs, documentary specials, etc.
I wasn't completely disappointed, I knew that a first of its kind thing like this wouldn't be mind blowing other than the fact it's happening, but I am let down at how scripted the last part was, Kuratas vs Mk2 and the first round of Kuratas vs Eagle Prime didn't look like they were worked but the third fight looked pretty scripted... That is a let down, not sure why they would do that for something that's been waited for so long, perhaps they realized that trying to do that for real they really weren't ready for and decided to work the last bit?
Also in a way as far as builds, I'm actually somewhat disappointed by how unprepared Kuratas was for Eagle Prime, Suidobashi was being pretty secretive about their design while MegaBots was literally giving design videos (hell look at the same channel the fight is hosted on) which should have given an advantage to Suidobashi but yet it was a change to a more stable but less agile base, adding a punch and some cosmetic changes.
In regards to the agility thing, I'm not surprised about Kuratas vs Mk2, I kind of expected that outcome from when the match was announced, the Mk2 was pretty clunky and the original Kuratas looked like it'd win an agility aspect and try to take down Mk2 so not really surprised, at the same time I'm not surprised Eagle Prime won the battle since when they tested the final version it looked far more prepared than the Mk2 and had taken care of the movement issues the older design had. At the same time considering the way the last fight was I'm not sure I can call it a "win" because of that fight being scripted, I guess had they not done that it probably still would have won as it had the advantage in round 1 of that fight
Although you know what, I hope this spawns more, and you know what hopefully it doesn't become a scripted thing, I realize they have to hold back due to safety but come on, let's not make another Robot Combat League... That was terrible
Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 2, 2017 19:17:44 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post but a couple robot combat related notes (even though we've still not heard anything about Season 3 of the Battlebots reboot), first is a question related to this type of Robot Combat, have we heard anything on King of Bots regarding airdates? I know it taped and have heard it was supposed to air in November, but has anyone heard anything? I really don't know how to check Chinese TV airings as I know pretty much nothing about their TV networks or anything.
Also Megabots has started trying to do unscripted fights, they've already announced Eagle Prime (Mk3) vs Iron Glory (Mk2) for a twitch stream this Sunday (11/5) at 4PM EST and have been doing test videos and streams, they've been working on making Iron Glory remote controlled so Eagle Prime can use better weapons without running the risk of killing anyone. Obviously mech combat probably won't be anything mind blowing in this stage and traditional robot combat is probably more entertaining, but just the fact we're actually getting Mech battles in the world we're living in is definitely noteworthy if you ask me.