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Post by arsenette on Mar 16, 2015 22:59:14 GMT -5
.. I'm not the one that brought it up that whole debacle last year.  And she said a lot more than that one post. I was also hardly the only one who talks to her regularly on twitter. LOL She jokes about it now and is (and has been) really good friends with Kacy. That doesn't stop her from being a bit bummed that her history was retconned by NBC and won't shy about talking about it with anyone who asks her. The show is a spin off of Sasuke so the comparisons are bound to happen. More importantly, and something everyone who hates the comparisons gloss over, is explaining why one is revered and the other is not. ANW changes every season and has yet to have an actual identity other than the spin off of something better. Hell everyone still asks if Nagano is coming. Also, when relating to the topic of injuries the comparisons are abound since they were SASUKE obstacles in the first place (Brian broke his leg on a poor replica of Sasuke's Balance Bridge). So whether you guys like it or not, you have to compare the two since THAT is the inspiration of both the show and that obstacle in specific. If any bitterness is abound it's you guys not liking that the shows were even linked at one point and all obstacles are variations of Sasuke's obstacles. |
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Post by dlee on Mar 16, 2015 23:49:42 GMT -5
Agree to disagree  I'm not going to convince you of anything. But if its about spin-offs then why isnt Ninja Warrior Turkey, Ninja Warrior Sweden or Ninja Warrior Malaysia so critically compared to Sasuke like ANW is? I'm not glosssing over anything either. I don't agree with you. I like ANW way more than Sasuke. In my view ANW has taken the obstacle-course game show idea & taken it to a new level that Sasuke would never have been able to achieve. Sorry I'm not addressing everything u said but like i said i'm not going to change ur mind or make u re-think ur view. |
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Post by penguincatfish on Mar 16, 2015 23:50:30 GMT -5
Did casting flat-out reject Luci from every region this season?  Sort of unrelated, but for last week's Throwback Thursday she posted a public clip on Facebook of her Sasuke run clearing the Jumping Spider. www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152838687218224 |
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Post by NinjaNerdKrumland on Mar 16, 2015 23:56:15 GMT -5
ANW is not Sasuke. ANW is ANW. You're new here, aren't you? Guilty as charged! I am ever the over-enthusiastic, wide-eyed rookie. And glad to be here! I'll admit there are some things ANW does that I don't agree with (something something ANW4 stage 2), but from what I heard in the tent at Vegas last year, Sasuke doesn't really have a higher horse. At the end of the day, these are both entertainment shows made by humans (lots of different humans), and humans make mistakes. Humans in search of higher ratings sometimes make a lot of mistakes. And that was my biggest rookie lesson last year: it's a TV show first, and an obstacle course second. BUT here's the shocker - I like it that way. As an aspiring competitor, I need to be very careful about what I post publicly, so I will end with a promise - To not eat the apple of cynicism. |
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Post by dlee on Mar 16, 2015 23:59:23 GMT -5
Well said dude. We live in a cynical world and it's nice to see someone excited and happy to be apart of something.
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Really unrelated also watch "Gone Wild - Luci "Steel" Romberg" on youtube.
Wish she got invited back & got the Kacy treatement (I know this aint gonna happen)
Toughest chick.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Mar 17, 2015 0:36:25 GMT -5
ANW has always had problems with safety. I still remember the reports of the globetrotter breaking his ankle in Baltimore, and the Giant Cycle almost destroying the faces of a tester and other competitors.
The conflation of SASUKE and ANW is entirely the fault of ANW. As long as ANW keeps doing things like calling their Vegas course "Mount Midoriyama," then it's ANW that's not keeping ANW separate from SASUKE.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 17, 2015 0:48:19 GMT -5
ANW has always had problems with safety. I still remember the reports of the globetrotter breaking his ankle in Baltimore, and the Giant Cycle almost destroying the faces of a tester and other competitors. Well in regards to the globetrotter, that one wasn't really an obstacle safety thing, they didn't air it but I was there in person, he tried to jump while the prism was tilted fairly high and he landed wrong, they could have had that platform level and padded to hell and that still probably would have happened, I can speak from experience about the Prism Tilt, yes the landing was solid, yes it was at a bit of an angle, but honestly the Sasuke version was just as solid and even steeper so if anything the Sasuke version of the Prism See Saw would be a bit more dangerous. I'm not speaking out of bias for being a tester in Baltimore but really that one was more a freak accident from competitor error as much as I hate to say it. That falls under the case of freak accidents do happen, the Tilting Table incidents however I would say the obstacle itself is to blame, modified construction could have had both injuries avoided. |
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Post by TCM on Mar 17, 2015 0:57:58 GMT -5
The conflation of SASUKE and ANW is entirely the fault of ANW. As long as ANW keeps doing things like calling their Vegas course "Mount Midoriyama," then it's ANW that's not keeping ANW separate from SASUKE. Bingo. You can't take another show's obstacles and format, and even include competitors that have been on both shows, then have an issue when people make comparisons. This isn't an American Idol/The Voice type of comparison where you could argue whether or not The Voice would be around if Idol wasn't a thing. Without SASUKE, there would be no ANW. |
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Post by arsenette on Mar 17, 2015 1:24:04 GMT -5
I honestly believe that if NBC didn't ditch Sasuke and force ANW down our throats all of the changes to the show (literally every season) would just be shrugged off. We don't have the option anymore to pick and choice (or even decide on both) so the bitching will continue.. even louder when they retcon Sasuke's history in order to raise their own. Either way, we have beaten this dead horse. Once NBC stops trying to live off of Sasuke's legacy, we will stop bitching about the stuff they altered. Never thought I'd long for the days of G4 actually allowing both to peacefully coexist.
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Post by brockriebe6 on Mar 17, 2015 7:26:14 GMT -5
It sucks that they can't coexist. I mean Sasuke was the original show 90% of us started watching, it's the reason ANW even exists. It just saddens me because of how much I love both shows.
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Post by ninjavern on Mar 17, 2015 8:52:00 GMT -5
I'm stoked! I cannot wait.
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Post by jork122 on Mar 17, 2015 19:14:39 GMT -5
I think JR Campos finished with about 1:45. |
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Post by thatoneuser on Mar 20, 2015 9:14:10 GMT -5
Update on the injury: Brian suffered a tibia fracture and a torn PCL ligament. He'll need 12 weeks without putting pressure on his leg (it's his left leg, for the record).  Also, it appears the Tilting Table was much more difficult (and much more dangerous!) than last year, which might explain the injury. Certainly we're never seeing that obstacle again. |
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Post by Philip on Mar 20, 2015 9:42:07 GMT -5
I'll give my 2 cents:
Both Sasuke and ANW have their flaws, but it's super obvious that ANW has a lot more flaws than Sasuke.
Someone who shall not be named said to me after going to Sasuke 30 said that Sasuke is a lot more fun in person, it's run like a festival, not a TV show.
Also, ANW4 Stage 2 and USA vs the World were both rigged. Sasuke would NEVER rig anything for ratings.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Mar 20, 2015 10:27:38 GMT -5
I'll give my 2 cents: Both Sasuke and ANW have their flaws, but it's super obvious that ANW has a lot more flaws than Sasuke. Someone who shall not be named said to me after going to Sasuke 30 said that Sasuke is a lot more fun in person, it's run like a festival, not a TV show. Also, ANW4 Stage 2 and USA vs the World were both rigged. Sasuke would NEVER rig anything for ratings. I agree wholeheartedly. Yes SASUKE has their injuries too but certainly not as often as ANW. (also I remember in an interview with Shingo in SASUKE 29 he also thinks it's more of a festival in SASUKE.) |
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Post by kid0h on Mar 20, 2015 12:37:49 GMT -5
Wow that looks like a tibial plateau fracture, which is terrible news. Good luck on your recovery and hate to see anyone have such a thing happen in any sporting event.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 20, 2015 13:11:07 GMT -5
So.. will they show it with a bunch of angles? or cut it from the broadcast? Brian and I have an unofficial bet going. LOL
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Post by Badalight on Mar 20, 2015 13:22:32 GMT -5
You know, I've been wondering the same thing Arsenette. Hide the fact that they have a dangerous course, or use the injury for ratings.
I'm putting 5 dollars on it gets shown.
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Post by thatoneuser on Mar 20, 2015 13:51:58 GMT -5
I say no. It seems like NBC isn't marketing Brian Kretsch as a guy they want to get TV time, so having him do a "broken leg" angle doesn't seem like it will have a payoff. (In other news, I may need to watch less wrestling.) I think it would just make them look bad for having a stupid, dangerous obstacle on a course filled with stupid, dangerous obstacles.
EDIT: That's not an insult to Brian Kretsch. He is for my money one of the most dedicated and passionate ninjas in the sport. It's a shame that NBC doesn't see it that way.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 20, 2015 13:54:28 GMT -5
If not shown in full, I could see it in one of those quick tv promos.
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And she said a lot more than that one post. I was also hardly the only one who talks to her regularly on twitter. LOL She jokes about it now and is (and has been) really good friends with Kacy. That doesn't stop her from being a bit bummed that her history was retconned by NBC and won't shy about talking about it with anyone who asks her.
I'm not going to convince you of anything. But if its about spin-offs then why isnt Ninja Warrior Turkey, Ninja Warrior Sweden or Ninja Warrior Malaysia so critically compared to Sasuke like ANW is?
