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Post by arsenette on Jul 15, 2014 13:14:40 GMT -5
The point of Chie is that she's the first women to clear the First stage of the main tournament back in 1998. Was Jessie even alive? LOL (being facetious that question was rhetorical)
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Post by Amber on Jul 15, 2014 13:28:04 GMT -5
And Luci Romberg (though I think they mentioned her once)
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Post by greenday61892 on Jul 15, 2014 13:34:10 GMT -5
I like how you guys have gone back to forgetting that they're keeping their histories separate. Why is it so difficult to grasp that ANW is BASED on Sasuke, not an EXTENSION of Sasuke? Sure the first few seasons sent people to Japan but we have our own course now. Stop being so damn stubborn about it all.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 15, 2014 13:34:17 GMT -5
And Luci Romberg (though I think they mentioned her once) Luci never made it to the city finals in ANW before, she made it to the 5th obstacle twice but never made it into the top 30 in ANW
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 15, 2014 13:35:31 GMT -5
I like how you guys have gone back to forgetting that they're keeping their histories separate. Why is it so difficult to grasp that ANW is BASED on Sasuke, not an EXTENSION of Sasuke? Sure the first few seasons sent people to Japan but we have our own course now. Stop being so damn stubborn about it all. Yes but they can't even keep track of THEIR OWN history, from LAST SEASON, Kacy is the first woman to complete the qualifying course but she's not the first woman to compete in the city finals, Jessie Graf made it to the city finals in Venice last year.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 15, 2014 13:38:30 GMT -5
I like how you guys have gone back to forgetting that they're keeping their histories separate. Why is it so difficult to grasp that ANW is BASED on Sasuke, not an EXTENSION of Sasuke? Sure the first few seasons sent people to Japan but we have our own course now. Stop being so damn stubborn about it all. Because they spent 5 seasons saying it was Sasuke and combined the "Mount Midoriyama" results. Of late they've been doing #ANW but the damage was done early on in the first half of the regional airings when Kacy's first run was shown. They had gone on the Today show saying that the obstacle has never been defeated by a Women.. period.. ever in the history of the event in any country. Now they've dialed it back after people (like me) took exception to nixing Sasuke's history to drum up excitement for ANW. There is no need. It's exciting as it is without disparaging the results of 2 women in Sasuke Hall of Fame History to do it. NBC has so far changed their tactic and are saying ANW instead of Mount Midoriyama (which included both Sasuke and ANW results as witnessed by the USA vs. Japan airing and all previous ANW airings before this season).
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Post by peytonblitz on Jul 15, 2014 13:51:59 GMT -5
And Joop Katana and basically everyone but Brian, Levi, and Rich during ANW 1 Japan.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 15, 2014 13:55:53 GMT -5
And Joop Katana and basically everyone but Brian, Levi, and Rich during ANW 1 Japan. Unless they had a sex change.. LOL I don't believe that as the current train of thought with this conversation?
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Post by greenday61892 on Jul 15, 2014 13:56:44 GMT -5
I like how you guys have gone back to forgetting that they're keeping their histories separate. Why is it so difficult to grasp that ANW is BASED on Sasuke, not an EXTENSION of Sasuke? Sure the first few seasons sent people to Japan but we have our own course now. Stop being so damn stubborn about it all. Because they spent 5 seasons saying it was Sasuke and combined the "Mount Midoriyama" results. Of late they've been doing #ANW but the damage was done early on in the first half of the regional airings when Kacy's first run was shown. They had gone on the Today show saying that the obstacle has never been defeated by a Women.. period.. ever in the history of the event in any country. Now they've dialed it back after people (like me) took exception to nixing Sasuke's history to drum up excitement for ANW. There is no need. It's exciting as it is without disparaging the results of 2 women in Sasuke Hall of Fame History to do it. NBC has so far changed their tactic and are saying ANW instead of Mount Midoriyama (which included both Sasuke and ANW results as witnessed by the USA vs. Japan airing and all previous ANW airings before this season). Yes but that was then and this is now. It's not like once you've called it Mount Midoriyama you can't decide you're going to start separating your histories. It doesn't work that way.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 15, 2014 14:05:49 GMT -5
Yes but that was then and this is now. It's not like once you've called it Mount Midoriyama you can't decide you're going to start separating your histories. It doesn't work that way. .. wait.. are we disagreeing? I am talking about now. As early as this season (ANW6) they had the combined history unless they talked about the wall and magically that wasn't defeated by a woman until now by Kacy. That is erroneous. I'm STOKED she cleared it but that was the big argument during regionals and has since been somewhat amended by them saying ANW history. However, the damage has been done, people are so confused that they don't trust NBC to even keep their OWN history straight let alone when they commandeer Sasuke's history as their own. That's why it's now almost a joke when we say it because we know it's a hell of a lot of confusion even among ANW's staunchest supporters.
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Post by thatoneuser on Jul 15, 2014 15:12:33 GMT -5
I'd like to once again remind everyone that Mika Izumi climbed the Warped Wall in a SASUKE Trials competition in 2003 (mind you, one G4 never acknowledged) and even then she timed out at the top.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 15, 2014 15:26:03 GMT -5
I'd like to once again remind everyone that Mika Izumi climbed the Warped Wall in a SASUKE Trials competition in 2003 (mind you, one G4 never acknowledged) and even then she timed out at the top. And everything we are watching now is Trial as well... your point? I'm sure if Mika had 5 minutes to unlimited amount of time to clear the course she would have as well... your point again?
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Post by blah123 on Jul 15, 2014 17:02:22 GMT -5
FACTS: - Kacy Catanzaro (spelling?) was the first woman to get up ANW's version of the warped wall. She was also the first woman to clear the city final course (or whatever the heck NBC is calling it these days).
- Japan is different than America, and Sasuke is different than ANW.
- NBC/Comcast could give a rat's a** about being factually correct if they don't have to be, so long as they get their viewers.
- NBC/Comcast has done, is doing, and will do whatever the f they want, regardless of our opinions, as long as they get their viewers.
Can this argument be put to rest? Sure there have been other women in history that have gotten up some version of a warped wall. Sasuke's, Sasuke Malaysia's, and hundreds of backyard walls have probably all been conquered at one point in time by women, either in "trial" or "actual" runs, or whatever. Heck, Michelle Warnky probably got up the ASEAN Open Cup wall when she was there, which would make her the first American woman to get up a wall "in competition". Does NBC care? No. They will do anything they can to turn a profit, as they should. Get over it.
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Post by thebobmaster on Jul 15, 2014 17:04:34 GMT -5
As usual, getting up results and further thoughts. Sorry I'm a bit slow. Blame the people who decided to give me night classes on Monday, then morning class on Tuesday. 1. Jeremy Morgan: Finished, 3:30.70 2. Jaret Salas (WHY YOU DIGESTS!): Finished, 4:52.43 3. Tremayne Dortch: Finished, 5:23.26 4. Geoffrey Lancaster (WHY YOU DIGESTS!): Finished, 6:35.17 5. Abel Gonzalez: Finished, 6:54.96 6. Karsten Williams: Finished, 7:26.28 7. Kacy Catanzaro: Finished, 8:59.53 (YOU GO, GIRL!) 8. Kevin Kline: Failed Pole Grasper, 2:34.86 9. David Gilbert: Failed Pole Grasper, 3:41.06 10. Cass Clawson: Failed Swinging Frames, 1:59.82 11. Brandon Pannell: Failed Swinging Frames, 2:26.91 12. Connor Moyer: Failed Swinging Frames, 2:50.81 13. Johnathan Morin: Failed Swinging Frames, 4:21.67 14. Joseph "Jo Jo" Bynum: Failed Swinging Frames, 4:33.78 15. Sam Sann: Failed Swinging Frames, 4:43.95
Shocking Fails: Dillon Gates And now, various other thoughts, starting with the negative. Really?! You digested semifinal clears?! What the hell, editing?! Not to mention twice starting in the middle of a strong run, including the "first" competitor to clear the Swinging Frames.
Knocking Egin Dolin, or doubting him having the time to train due to his job as a truck driver sounds odd. I know they try to keep this show separate from Sasuke, but there's this guy named Kenji Takahashi...
I don't dislike Kacy, and she deserves major kudos. But if the editing shoves her down our throat anymore, I'm going to choke.
On to the positive: Sam Sann has some insane upper body strength. Even though he didn't clear the Swinging Frames, he held in there for ages!
Also, I give major props to Geoffrey Motil for DQing himself on the steps. While you could argue that he would have been DQed anyways, it truly shows integrity for him to do it himself when, for the time being, he could have just kept going without anyone being the wiser. It's a normal man to claim to be honest. It's another thing to prove it. Overall, more interesting than the last episode, but some frustrating digests.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 15, 2014 17:22:41 GMT -5
Can this argument be put to rest? Sure there have been other women in history that have gotten up some version of a warped wall. Sasuke's, Sasuke Malaysia's, and hundreds of backyard walls have probably all been conquered at one point in time by women, either in "trial" or "actual" runs, or whatever. Heck, Michelle Warnky probably got up the ASEAN Open Cup wall when she was there, which would make her the first American woman to get up a wall "in competition". Does NBC care? No. They will do anything they can to turn a profit, as they should. Get over it. Last time I checked this was a discussion board and we were LAUGHING at how we KNOW NBC doesn't give a s***. Stop trying to stifle us from actually enjoying each other's jokes on a discussion board.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Jul 15, 2014 18:06:15 GMT -5
Did he "break" the rumbling dice, or did he pull a Travis Allen Schroeder?
I thought the promo showed him yanking the dice off the rails, and it was being kept up by the safety cables and part of the beam.
I knew A. Smith & Co. were bush league, but not disqualifying for a Travis Allen Schroeder situation would be a new low.
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Post by kangaroo on Jul 15, 2014 18:11:27 GMT -5
I figured Sam would be a Wildcard if the rookie made it not like he went down early like Brent last year.
Sam held on for ever I thought he was going to pull it off for a second. After I lose more weight I may have to go over to his gym for a single session and play on some of the obstacles. I live in Houston but it is about 30 miles from where I live
Where is his gym might I ask? Also yeah he was holding on for such a long time only to land in the bubble... It is on the NW side called Iron Sports off 249 between the Willbrook Mall and WillowBrook Hospital I go in that area quite but usually later in the evening to do my Aikido training Anyways after I shed more weight and I think I am ready I want to go play on some of the obstacles not there yet ironsportsfit.com/contact.html
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 15, 2014 21:32:02 GMT -5
Did he "break" the rumbling dice, or did he pull a Travis Allen Schroeder? I thought the promo showed him yanking the dice off the rails, and it was being kept up by the safety cables and part of the beam. I knew A. Smith & Co. were bush league, but not disqualifying for a Travis Allen Schroeder situation would be a new low. Here's the preview for next week's episodeI would put the blame on ATS more than anyone, and I don't blame A. Smith & Co. for not disqualifying him, watching it again, it definitely slid forwards because of his roll, Joe (and everyone) HAD to swing because of the thing being 60 pounds, I missed the cut (by a long shot...) in St Louis but I have first hand experience with the Rumbling Dice, I know I defended it earlier in the thread but the fact Joe's Rumbling Dice incident may or may not have happened *wink* the way it did may or may not have because of how it's built, they could have did many things to prevent that... They could have not put it on those little rails for a track, they could have put the bars along the side that they have in Japan to keep it from sliding off, or you know, they could just NOT MAKE IT 60 POUNDS! *ahem* sorry about that... But IMO that would be ruled Obstacle Malfunction in my book.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 15, 2014 21:34:07 GMT -5
Did he "break" the rumbling dice, or did he pull a Travis Allen Schroeder? I thought the promo showed him yanking the dice off the rails, and it was being kept up by the safety cables and part of the beam. I knew A. Smith & Co. were bush league, but not disqualifying for a Travis Allen Schroeder situation would be a new low. Here's the preview for next week's episodeI would put the blame on ATS more than anyone, and I don't blame A. Smith & Co. for not disqualifying him, watching it again, it definitely slid forwards because of his roll, Joe (and everyone) HAD to swing because of the thing being 60 pounds, I missed the cut (by a long shot...) in St Louis but I have first hand experience with the Rumbling Dice, I know I defended it earlier in the thread but the fact Joe's Rumbling Dice incident may or may not have happened *wink* the way it did may or may not have because of how it's built, they could have did many things to prevent that... They could have not put it on those little rails for a track, they could have put the bars along the side that they have in Japan to keep it from sliding off, or you know, they could just NOT MAKE IT 60 POUNDS! *ahem* sorry about that... But IMO that would be ruled Obstacle Malfunction in my book. and as we saw through Nagano's interesting fail on the slider jump he was given a second chance. I doubt ANW is gonna do that but looking at the preview, it seems he's going to do something crazy!
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Post by tkdchamp2021 on Jul 15, 2014 21:39:08 GMT -5
Being that Joe Moravsky was the fastest finisher, he would have known whether going that far would make it to Vegas, and would probably act according to that. If he knew he was going to Vegas, he could drop out.
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