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Post by SRW on Jul 4, 2014 18:55:25 GMT -5
Hitoshi Kanno and Kazuma Asa are well and truly in this obstacles pocket although i'd say Kanno much more he seems scared as soon as he reaches it.
Do you guys see either of them ever managing to beat this thing or at least one of them if so who do you see more likely to conquer it of the two?
Personally I think Asa might finally do it in 31 but Kanno to me after 3 fails in the exact same spot I think he has too much fear of it.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 4, 2014 18:57:39 GMT -5
Hitoshi Kanno and Kazuma Asa are well and truly in this obstacles pocket although i'd say Kanno much more he seems scared as soon as he reaches it. Do you guys see either of them ever managing to beat this thing or at least one of them if so who do you see more likely to conquer it of the two? Personally I think Asa might finally do it in 31 but Kanno to me after 3 fails in the exact same spot I think he has too much fear of it. Asa is gonna clear it one of these days... the main question is... which ALL STAR will clear it first...? Out of th e 3 all stars left, Takeda and Nagano are the lightest while Shingo is the heaviest strangely |
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Post by SRW on Jul 4, 2014 18:59:44 GMT -5
Nagano would kill it but thats off topic its just about these two guys who have now be done by it 3 times in a row.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 4, 2014 19:01:29 GMT -5
got it. Yeah I'm with Asa on this one
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 4, 2014 19:21:46 GMT -5
After 3 consecutive fails on each by both Kanno and Asa, I think it's becoming more of a mental roadblock than a physical one. I think both have a decent shot at clearing it in 31 (provided they reach it yet again), as we've seen footage of both of them clearing it on replicas; however, they'll have to keep the idea of an unprecedented fourth straight fail on it from getting to them. I'm sure none of us want to see them have the CCH become to them what the Wall iswas to Yamada.
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Post by SRW on Jul 4, 2014 19:24:12 GMT -5
That is what becoming Pocketed by a obstacle is yea a fear factor a total mental roadblock like Yamada is forever in the walls pocket.
I saying of the two I think Asa seems less scared of it and I personally see him more likely to break his mental block than Kanno who seems scared of it.
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Post by RobbyMac on Jul 4, 2014 19:26:36 GMT -5
If the course remains the same, Ryo or Yuuji will win next tourney and this subject won't matter.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 4, 2014 19:31:48 GMT -5
If the course remains the same, Ryo or Yuuji will win next tourney and this subject won't matter. I don't want to think about that... I still have dreams that Shingo will win the full thing... |
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Post by RobbyMac on Jul 4, 2014 19:39:57 GMT -5
If the course remains the same, Ryo or Yuuji will win next tourney and this subject won't matter. I don't want to think about that... I still have dreams that Shingo will win the full thing... Then you better hope for another competitor named Shingo. |
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 4, 2014 19:40:40 GMT -5
I don't want to think about that... I still have dreams that Shingo will win the full thing... Then you better hope for another competitor named Shingo. VERY FUNNY! You know VERY well which Shingo I MEAN! XD |
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 4, 2014 19:57:19 GMT -5
If the course remains the same, Ryo or Yuuji will win next tourney and this subject won't matter. Tweet that to Inui, and you'll be sorely disappointed.  |
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Post by RobbyMac on Jul 4, 2014 20:06:02 GMT -5
Oh I won't be surprised when it remains the same and one of them win. And I'll stick with my opinion of Ryo's not that good and Yuuji is the best but I don't want to see him win again. Congrats the final stage is harder but when you get there based on your bodyweight it's not impressive. There should be more heavy lifting and more chances to make mistakes on stages 1 and 2.
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Post by Philip on Jul 4, 2014 20:55:03 GMT -5
It's definitely mental for both of them, hope they both beat it in 31
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Post by peytonblitz on Jul 4, 2014 21:26:23 GMT -5
You should probably put spoilers in the title. But on topic in the next tournament if they make it their I think they will beat it. The reason I think they beat it this time was underestimation. Because in my opinion it looked like Kanno and Asa both had too much momentum which made it once they grabbed on their bodies were still going forward (more than it should)and they just lost grip. I do also think it is part mental mostly for Asa, and they practiced it a lot and thought "yeah I got this" and just got to much of a swing.
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Post by RobbyMac on Jul 4, 2014 21:35:05 GMT -5
The competition already aired..... Nothing should have to have spoilers on it.
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Post by Alzy on Jul 5, 2014 2:14:47 GMT -5
Yeah its definitely a mental thing for them now, but peytonblitz brought up a good point I been considering since the show, do you guys think some of the competitors get too much momentum on the third ledge swing?
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Post by SRW on Jul 5, 2014 8:40:01 GMT -5
Only Nagano can beat that final stage and has done no one else deserves to do it but i'll Take Ryo, Yuuji im bored of now. Back on topic now though.
Morimoto only literally did one swing and hit it right away maybe they are trying too hard and putting too much force behind themselves? Kanno to me though has failed it the exact same way 3 times in a row with no difference at all this is why I question if he is mentally scarred by it.
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Post by dyer on Jul 5, 2014 10:13:39 GMT -5
Physically, they can do it. But when you start to fail the same obstacle over and over again, that's where the mental part comes in, and i think they thought that they had the jump, just when they went for the ledge mentally, they couldn't hold on, and i think that was what led to their failure this time.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jul 5, 2014 10:21:40 GMT -5
I think they are swinging with FAR too much momentum, and you will notice that they're not falling DOWN but they continue to sail forward in the direction that they swing. It is likely overcompensating for a fear of swinging too short and missing it altogether, but physics-wise, they would be much better off to have to reach OUT by jumping too short than to have to absorb all of the shock from moving too quickly through the air. The gravitational forces are strong enough for their fingertips to absorb, but adding horizontal motion that they also need to cease is making the grab almost twice as difficult.
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Post by SRW on Jul 5, 2014 18:11:26 GMT -5
Kannos is the most disturbing as his fail is identical all 3 times in terms of how he tries to grab it but fails.
Asa at least got a better grip on this time but stoo much force pulled him away.
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