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Post by Oti on Jul 3, 2014 13:16:44 GMT -5
Rider, some people failed to make the jump at all (both sides down) and at least one person did the up/down split. And me watching, having no idea there was a DQ rule, was like, "Dude, you done f***ed up."
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Post by Amber on Jul 3, 2014 13:37:18 GMT -5
Is it just me, or did it seem like Stage 3 gave you the feeling of watching stage 3 in an older tournament?
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jul 3, 2014 13:50:28 GMT -5
Is it just me, or did it seem like Stage 3 gave you the feeling of watching stage 3 in an older tournament? In regards to the fearless digesting, yes, but I don't think they ever went that long on the competitor backgrounds and of course, showing the full 90 seconds between obstacles.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 3, 2014 15:21:25 GMT -5
oh there were SSL dq's alright... it won't be good once you find out who was included... I've known for at least a week, haven't seen it yet but I know Nagano and Takeda were two if I remember correctly
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Post by SRW on Jul 3, 2014 15:44:22 GMT -5
Nagano woulda smashed stage 3 has he got there such a travesty of shakespearian proportions!!
Kongus Stage 2 record gone in such a shoddy way =/
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Post by SuperTiger on Jul 3, 2014 17:13:19 GMT -5
Sasuke 30 was quite the show! Like everyone else, I'll throw in my two cents. First StageI really was not crazy at all about the editing during stage 1. Not even showing the runs of 8-10 competitors and then digesting about 8-10 more is unacceptable. I understand with a high amount of clears, editing needs to be done because the course gets a tad boring to watch in a situation like that, but not even showing people is completely unacceptable in my opinion. Especially when we spend five minutes on fluff for people like Wacky. Some people may like Wacky, but I know I'm not a fan and I'd much rather see other competitors run the course than fluff and commercials for Wacky's run. (He's not the only one, but he's the example that sticks out in my brain) The course in general was okay. I really enjoyed the new Lumberjack Climb. It's a much more exciting way to end the first stage as opposed to the Rope Ladder. I express the same sentiments as everyone else that I think there needs to be a few upgrades. I'm not really feeling the Double Warped Wall. Hardly anyone ever fails the first one, and they could put something else in there to make the first stage a tad bit more difficult. One Warped Wall is enough imo. I didn't mind the Log Grip this time around, but seeing a new obstacle there would be cool for the next tournament. I would also lower the time limit a tad. (5-10 seconds) Just to bump up the difficulty a smidge. Second StageAt first, I was like everyone else and thought the Swap Salmon Ladder rule was bogus, but once the stage concluded last night, I had the same thought process as @tcm that even if they recovered it's highly unlikely they'd clear the stage. I did think it was anticlimactic, and I didn't love some of the failures on it but I surely didn't hate it. I know people don't really care for the backstream, but with the return of the Wall Lift, I really think stage 2 was solid all around. It did a good amount of damage and we saw just the right amount of people clear it. Like stage 1, I was not a fan of the digesting of most competitors, and fluff on the same three/four people. There's plenty of room to share the love and not just hover on the same people. Third Stage
The third stage was definitely my least favorite stage this tournament. While I enjoyed the new Drum Hopper, it wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be. The Crazy Cliff Hanger still seems to be the prime killer in this stage and while I think the obstacles prior to it are big contributors to that, it makes the stage somewhat predictable. I hate the fact we had three digested runs on three pretty high profile competitors. Those are people I would have loved to see, which leads me back to the extraneous fluff on the same few people. It's great for people to get their time in the spotlight, but if they want to bring in ratings, they need to show more of some of the people they digested! Final Stage
I enjoyed the final stage. I disagree with what others said that it needs to have a higher time limit. Let us not forget it took twelve tournaments before this incarnation was beaten the first time. It's only a meter and a half higher, but it's still possible. I didn't have problems with the spider climb either. I know this tower isn't designed to have the walls split apart, but I'd have been pleased if it did. As far as results go. I enjoyed seeing Tomohiro make it to the final. It's good to see someone like him make it there with the way he had been hyped up, and his storyline. I'm definitely going to be in the minority on this next one, but I didn't really care for Ryo getting here. I just find him (and Yuuji really) to be very boring. If they make it to the third stage, they're basically guaranteed to be in the final. Not to mention it breaks my heart to see someone like Ryo clear an obstacle like the Crazy Cliff Hanger, mainly due to the fact he's what 105 lbs?, and then to see people like Kanno and Asa fail it for the third time in a row. Yes, Ryo is very skilled, and is a strong competitor when it pertains to the third stage, but seeing him have to literally crawl under the Wall Lift.. I don't know! I know he trains a lot for it, but a part of me feels like you just don't deserve to be in the third stage if you have to crawl under the Wall Lift. It's called the Wall Lift, not the Wall Crawl. I know I'm in the minority and a lot of people don't agree with me, but that's just how I feel.
So yea, that's my take on the tournament! Aside from the overly excessive digesting of a lot of top competitors, and excessive fluff on a few others, I really enjoyed it, and I'm excited to see how the ratings pan out!
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Post by thebobmaster on Jul 3, 2014 17:54:05 GMT -5
Just finished watching it. I can understand why people were upset about the SSL disqualification rule, but at the same time, there's only one contestant I felt got actively screwed over by the rule. Spoiler I swear that Kongu made the jump, but one of the rungs didn't fold out in time, causing him to fall and get DQ'd. I was quite chuffed at the final, and have high hopes in the future. For anyone in the know, however, why did one contestant withdraw between stage one and stage 2? Also, why did they let NBC edit the digests? I mean really? Triple-digesting Shunsuke Nagasaki?
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Post by TCM on Jul 3, 2014 18:08:15 GMT -5
Also, why did they let NBC edit the digests? I mean really? Triple-digesting Shunsuke Nagasaki? Forever Digested: The Shunsuke Nagasaki Story But seriously, he's not had a full run shown since he's been back. He's gotten the short stick clearing in a pack of constant clears and failing where the majority has, but yeesh. At this point, he won't get a full run unless he wins. And even then, we have to hope he isn't stuck in the middle.
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Post by thebobmaster on Jul 3, 2014 19:21:49 GMT -5
Ah, I just realized something. Maybe the reason they digested the All-Stars is because they touched the water during Stage One, and to prevent the drop in ratings from the All-Stars being knocked out in stage one, the refs/whoever makes the disqualification calls looked the other way. The digests were just to prevent the viewer from noticing. No, I'm not being serious. I'm referencing the Paul Kasemir controversy. Don't send me angry messages/quotes, please.
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Post by YoDaUO on Jul 3, 2014 19:52:31 GMT -5
Alright, honestly, the biggest upset for me in the tournament was Bunpei's fail. I had a hunch feeling that he was going to fail the jump hang too... I think that he was expecting to get off the trampoline and he missed it and stepped over it. His jump just looked really weird so I think he just missed the trampoline. It was very sad to see my favorite all star fail after such a streak of clears... I really hope he comes back again. But I honestly doubt it, he even took down all of his obstacles The second stage was acually great besides the damn Salmon Ladder. I never had a problem with the back stream being there (maybe because I am a swimmer), but the Salmon Ladder pissed me off. However after reading this thread the DQ does make sense but it is an annoying way to get DQ'ed. I think the third stage needs a little more difficulty, it got a little boring seeing everyone just fail the Cliff Hanger. Final Stage was perfect. Overall, besides Bunpei's very depressing exit and the Salmon Ladder DQ's, it was a decent tournament. Oh yea, Nagasaki getting digested each stage was very annoying... And anyone else surprised Takeda and Yamamoto got digested Stage 1?
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Post by mindwarp on Jul 3, 2014 20:58:39 GMT -5
Which YT channel should we be keeping an eye on for these, the Sasuke Rising one of the TBS PR one that they put the Navi on, or just keep checking both? I haven't had a chance to watch it yet (I'm a spoiler junkie, though - y'all should have heard my comments to the screen when I read Ube's results list ), but after hearing who got digested/cut, I'm happy that will be made available. Good call, Inui and/or TBS, and helps to alleviate the criticism about the editing somewhat since we will get to see that stuff somehow. Also, may I add my congratulations as well, Jin!!!!
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Post by arsenette on Jul 3, 2014 20:58:44 GMT -5
For anyone in the know, however, why did one contestant withdraw between stage one and stage 2? Also, why did they let NBC edit the digests? I mean really? Triple-digesting Shunsuke Nagasaki? Yes. Noritomo Morisawa apparently tweaked his neck during the run somehow. Between the 1st and 2nd stages he went to the medical booth and the doctor suggested he not run the 2nd stage or he'd risk further injuring himself. So he was Doctor stopped™. Agreed I was not happy with Shun being triple digested.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jul 3, 2014 21:00:11 GMT -5
I'm just worried that the constant digesting of some of these competitors will discourage them from returning, especially ones like Shunsuke who needed convincing to come back in the first place.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 3, 2014 21:17:08 GMT -5
I'm just worried that the constant digesting of some of these competitors will discourage them from returning, especially ones like Shunsuke who needed convincing to come back in the first place. LOL He took it as motivation! He posted on his twitter after his run on the 3rd stage saying he has to do better (get back to the Final) so he can be properly shown! LOL There's a lot of rumor going around that this tourney will have a release of some kind. I'm praying for home release personally but not sure if that's ready yet. I know Inui tried since you don't have a lot of music they'd have to pay for (even if as a result the theme music of each competitor was just about destroyed ) so hopefully that is a good sign that they are working on a home release? I'll see what I can find out. I know the Director's cut on the preview was VERY well received and had a lot more full runs of the first and second stage.
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Post by thebobmaster on Jul 3, 2014 21:25:05 GMT -5
For anyone in the know, however, why did one contestant withdraw between stage one and stage 2? Also, why did they let NBC edit the digests? I mean really? Triple-digesting Shunsuke Nagasaki? Yes. Noritomo Morisawa apparently tweaked his neck during the run somehow. Between the 1st and 2nd stages he went to the medical booth and the doctor suggested he not run the 2nd stage or he'd risk further injuring himself. So he was Doctor stopped™. Agreed I was not happy with Shun being triple digested. Thanks for letting me know. I was wondering if it was related to...whatever went on with Yamada that resulted in him getting cut.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jul 3, 2014 21:26:31 GMT -5
According to Ryouma's fb, he timed out by a second in the First Stage. He was part of the director's cut, as shown in photos he posted of his TV showing his run... I wonder what this might mean about distribution. Perhaps the competitors were given the live edited versions of their runs? Even the competitors who were cut? I was kind of confused as to how he had that.
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 3, 2014 21:48:58 GMT -5
According to Ryouma's fb, he timed out by a second in the First Stage. He was part of the director's cut, as shown in photos he posted of his TV showing his run... I wonder what this might mean about distribution. Perhaps the competitors were given the live edited versions of their runs? Even the competitors who were cut? I was kind of confused as to how he had that. I'm guessing that (like in 29) competitors received a DVD copy of their run, hence how he has that footage. Also, does anyone know how Ishikawa did in Stage 2? Oddly, he was the only Stage 2 competitor cut from the broadcast, if excluding the guy who withdrew due to injury. Hopefully he didn't cause trouble like Yamada.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jul 3, 2014 21:58:03 GMT -5
According to Ryouma's fb, he timed out by a second in the First Stage. He was part of the director's cut, as shown in photos he posted of his TV showing his run... I wonder what this might mean about distribution. Perhaps the competitors were given the live edited versions of their runs? Even the competitors who were cut? I was kind of confused as to how he had that. I'm guessing that (like in 29) competitors received a DVD copy of their run, hence how he has that footage. Also, does anyone know how Ishikawa did in Stage 2? Oddly, he was the only Stage 2 competitor cut from the broadcast, if excluding the guy who withdrew due to injury. Hopefully he didn't cause trouble like Yamada. Glad I am not the only one who noticed Ishikawa going missing. Thought I was going crazy with people saying he didn't even compete in this tourney etc. I find it bizarre that they bothered to show that he cleared at all, if they weren't even going to show in any way shape or form that he failed. Unless he was just digested really quickly and nobody noticed because he looked a little different this time around (his hair wasn't dyed yellow this time). Also, now that the tourney is over, can someone who either witnessed how Yamada did or has the inside info share the result? Not much point in keeping it secret now. I'm kind of curious.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 3, 2014 22:06:00 GMT -5
Well, Yamada broke a promise with Inui, not sure what that is and why he was cut.
As for the actual result I guess I'll share, it was pretty much the same as Nagano in 29, Yamada injured himself on the Long Jump, apparently he continued but not sure from how long, he at least got past the log grip and up to the hedgehog but somewhere in his run instead of fighting through it as hard as Nagano did, Yamada had to end his run prematurely (think what happened to Kanno in 27 S2)
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jul 3, 2014 22:08:21 GMT -5
oh there were SSL dq's alright... it won't be good once you find out who was included... I've known for at least a week, haven't seen it yet but I know Nagano and Takeda were two if I remember correctly Yeah. Shingo survived... only to nearly drown at the backstream...
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