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Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 17, 2014 17:49:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't say to blame those involved in production of ANW for the Roulette Cylinder thing, this happened while TBS was on duty as well (Okuyama did the same in 26 but they showed his family as he was doing it and cut back to when he was actually mounting the obstacle, but if you look at the placement of it, that's not where M9/TBS set it) As for the slickness of stage 3, that's actually amusing in a way considering they waived the restrictions, for ANW5 they had strict rules about no chalk, spray or gloves for stage 3
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Post by b00t on Jan 25, 2014 9:50:32 GMT -5
My two cents.
Since when does Yamamoto have the nickname "The Godfather"!? Also, the commentators suck, with their fake reactions and scripted lines. I'm pretty sure they altered the subtitles too, as they really made Japan's team seem like a bunch of arrogant douchebags. The crowd - okay, you're excited, but who the fu[c]k claps and yells throughout the WHOLE thing? Fake as s[h]it but moving on...
The competitiors. The Americans are strong, no doubt, but I gotta say they're all pretty unlikable. I can't put my finger on it, but they don't seem genuine, somehow. It's like they're long lost brothers of the commentators or something. Only Brian Arnold seems to be acting natural and seems like a cool guy.
Yuuji said something very cool, something along the lines "there are better competitors than me out there, but they won't repeat my feat, because it's all heart". That pretty much sums it up.
As for why Japan failed so badly in this event, I won't make up excuses for them, but I'll tell you one possibility - the creepy a** zombie crowd must have scared them!
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jan 25, 2014 11:35:54 GMT -5
Perhaps the thing that irritated me most was the fact that the American competitors, particularly in the second stage, felt the need to continue to try to clear the stage after it was already clear that they had won the match. I get it--it is a rare opportunity to take on the real obstacles without the pressure of the real competition.
But the move smacks of arrogance and came off as attention-grabbing and show-boating. The sportsmanlike act would have been to clear the obstacle that gave them the win, thank the crowd for the support, and step off the course. It became clear that the Japanese were not having much fun out there and the Americans may have had a little too much fun.
Edit: I would like to clarify that I actually do know 4/5 American competitors (all except Brian Arnold) and have actually stayed overnight with them on a couple of occasions. They are very, very nice people who do strongly believe in the spirit of Sasuke. They are not much like the TV portrays them, which kind of goes without saying, but as a skeptic myself who has had first hand personal experience with them (not just training together), I can vouch that their hearts are in the right place.
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Post by Philip on Jan 25, 2014 12:34:14 GMT -5
The competitiors. The Americans are strong, no doubt, but I gotta say they're all pretty unlikable. You obviously haven't met them.... Are you one of the people on the Ninja Warrior Facebook that always is like "hurr I miss the Japanese version"?
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Post by b00t on Jan 25, 2014 18:26:36 GMT -5
The competitiors. The Americans are strong, no doubt, but I gotta say they're all pretty unlikable. You obviously haven't met them.... Are you one of the people on the Ninja Warrior Facebook that always is like "hurr I miss the Japanese version"? Okay, unlikeable compared to the Japanese competitors (for me, personally). Honestly, I haven't watched much of ANW, so I just don't connect with the American competitors and therefore I root for the people I'm familiar with. I do miss the 20 minute G4 SASUKE version, not sure how that's relevant, but I'm not complaining. Thanks to the fact that it's gone, I found a way to watch the full competitions (no subtitles, sadly, but at least you get to see everything). I saw 1 or 2 episodes of ANW, but it's just not the same. I already mentioned the announcers' utter shi[t]tiness, but besides that, the sheer excitement of someone beating an obstacle or stage is not there. It's like "wow, he cleared the ultimate cliffhanger, yippee!", but who cares, as we've already seen someone do that in SASUKE 27 (which is when it was really exciting). They should probably consider being up-to-date with the latest obstacles, instead of trying to prove that Americans can do it too and MUST do it, before they are worthy of the holy new redesigned cliffhanger/obstacle. Well, come to think of it, just letting go and falling in the water would also be a stupid move. Why WOULD they do that? I mean, they've come there to give it their all, why would they just give up? In fact, them giving up right after surpassing a Japanese competitor would likely be a lot more insulting.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jan 25, 2014 21:17:10 GMT -5
You obviously haven't met them.... Are you one of the people on the Ninja Warrior Facebook that always is like "hurr I miss the Japanese version"? Okay, unlikeable compared to the Japanese competitors (for me, personally). Honestly, I haven't watched much of ANW, so I just don't connect with the American competitors and therefore I root for the people I'm familiar with. I do miss the 20 minute G4 SASUKE version, not sure how that's relevant, but I'm not complaining. Thanks to the fact that it's gone, I found a way to watch the full competitions (no subtitles, sadly, but at least you get to see everything). I saw 1 or 2 episodes of ANW, but it's just not the same. I already mentioned the announcers' utter shi[t]tiness, but besides that, the sheer excitement of someone beating an obstacle or stage is not there. It's like "wow, he cleared the ultimate cliffhanger, yippee!", but who cares, as we've already seen someone do that in SASUKE 27 (which is when it was really exciting). They should probably consider being up-to-date with the latest obstacles, instead of trying to prove that Americans can do it too and MUST do it, before they are worthy of the holy new redesigned cliffhanger/obstacle. Well, come to think of it, just letting go and falling in the water would also be a stupid move. Why WOULD they do that? I mean, they've come there to give it their all, why would they just give up? In fact, them giving up right after surpassing a Japanese competitor would likely be a lot more insulting. /facepalm I did not suggest they drop into the water, that makes no sense. I suggested that they clear the obstacle and then exit the stage *dry* by using the support. It's like in a tennis or boxing match--if the player won the match and then instead of leaving they continued to play a practice session with their coach. It's rather disrespectful of the efforts of the opponent. You hear press conferences where the athletes say "I will have to play my best" or "It will be very difficult" even if the guy is ranked 200 in the world. This is a sport where it's not even about competing against each other to begin with, it's like an exhibition event. You know what would look really dumb? Already knowing you won the match, going forward like a showoff and falling into the water despite trying anyway. They are lucky that didn't happen to them.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 25, 2014 21:21:08 GMT -5
Just saying, had the japanese guys been in that situation, they'd probably continue on as well
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jan 25, 2014 21:24:34 GMT -5
Well then I would be equally disappointed in them Listen, it's just how I feel. Continuing to practice on the obstacles is of course the smarter thing to do, the more advantageous thing for future competitions, just as testing is. But I personally am not a fan. It's like they didn't care about saving energy for Third Stage because they were so confident they were going to win.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 26, 2014 22:09:16 GMT -5
I honestly didn't have an issue with them going to try to complete the stage. If nothing else it solidified their passion for Sasuke. Stopping because someone else failed only solidified the ANW aspect of defeating your opponent. A very AMERICAN thing to do.. defeating the course is a very Sasuke thing to do. If they dropped off or left after "defeating" someone else I would have been pissed beyond all recognition because that is NOT the Sasuke philosophy that I have grown to love over the years. That would be Survivor.
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Post by hashtagswag on Jan 29, 2014 2:34:22 GMT -5
I like the fact how after ryo failed stage the 3 ,matt mentioned how bryan made it one rung further hahah ... Classic stuff . I like the nickname idea .. I mean how cool does JAMES THE Beast mcgrath sound
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jan 29, 2014 17:27:17 GMT -5
Ahhhh Kanno, the Cliffhanger ain't been nice to you lately has it?
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Post by arsenette on Jan 29, 2014 22:14:28 GMT -5
Ahhhh Kanno, the Cliffhanger ain't been nice to you lately has it? Actually the UCH wasn't the thing that killed him.. the Boards ate his upper body strength. If could have been a toothpick afterwards and he would have failed it.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jan 30, 2014 14:28:34 GMT -5
Yeah I know, but his last 3 fails, including the ANW course, have been on Cliffhangers.
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