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Post by Buster1920 on Sept 3, 2013 17:21:06 GMT -5
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Sept 3, 2013 17:25:01 GMT -5
Just because Ryan Stratis cleared the ANW3 Unstable Bridge, doesn't mean that it wasn't ANW being ANW.
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Post by greenday61892 on Sept 3, 2013 18:12:43 GMT -5
Beat what is in front of you. Obstacles aren't absolved from having potential design issues, and ANW has had several up to this point. An obstacle with an obstacle design error obviously is still passable, but that design error doesn't give everyone a fair chance. EXACTLY. When you have THAT many fails, including several people like Flip who can usually ace the obstacle, there's something screwed up with the way it's built. There was LESS run-up to the tramp and MORE distance between the tramp and the entrance to the obstacle compared to last year, and to me the space between the walls even looks wider than last year too. |
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Post by deathalo on Sept 3, 2013 20:12:06 GMT -5
Obstacles aren't absolved from having potential design issues, and ANW has had several up to this point. An obstacle with an obstacle design error obviously is still passable, but that design error doesn't give everyone a fair chance. EXACTLY. When you have THAT many fails, including several people like Flip who can usually ace the obstacle, there's something screwed up with the way it's built. There was LESS run-up to the tramp and MORE distance between the tramp and the entrance to the obstacle compared to last year, and to me the space between the walls even looks wider than last year too. This. The distance to the walls looks slightly longer than it has been (in Japan and otherwise) people who were used to sticking it were not getting past the curves in the walls. It also looked like most of the 'shorter' competitors were having trouble sticking their legs out far enough, I think it was just too wide. You mention the run-up was shorter, and that's another good point, but I also want to point to the trampoline as source of failure, people did not seem to get the same amount of jump as I've seen on versions and especially on the JS in Japan. They need to carefully redesign this next year if they want people to take this course seriously. |
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Post by evan19121 on Sept 3, 2013 20:20:49 GMT -5
Obstacles aren't absolved from having potential design issues, and ANW has had several up to this point. An obstacle with an obstacle design error obviously is still passable, but that design error doesn't give everyone a fair chance. EXACTLY. When you have THAT many fails, including several people like Flip who can usually ace the obstacle, there's something screwed up with the way it's built. There was LESS run-up to the tramp and MORE distance between the tramp and the entrance to the obstacle compared to last year, and to me the space between the walls even looks wider than last year too. Anw will never have obstacles to perfect specs and we are going to just have to deal with it. And saying that if there are people who we now can do well. And then fail on an obstacle that's not to perfect specs and saying its screwed up isn't right, A. Anyone can fall anyplace anytime B. it was simply a fluke c. He was taken by suprise at the difference, but that's what the its all about, in earlier sasuke tournaments they had new 1st obstacles a bunch of times.i think it was built fine, it may be harder but that makes it so much more rewarding when someone beats it. If anw's spin bridge was built wrong from the sasuke 27 course it was based off of, wouldn't sasuke 28's spin bridge also be built incorrectly?! You see, even though its different its still the same obstacle and just as challenging. I'm just saying that there's no sense in complaining since there's a very little chance of things being changed, just take things as they go on the course. |
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Sept 3, 2013 20:22:46 GMT -5
You guys are acting like Sasuke never changed up the Jumping Spider from competition to competition.
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Post by evan19121 on Sept 3, 2013 21:22:39 GMT -5
You guys are acting like Sasuke never changed up the Jumping Spider from competition to competition. Lol ya, remember sasuke 19's jumping spider compared to others |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 3, 2013 21:34:22 GMT -5
The 19/26 version was still more passable compared to the ANW5 version though, that at least had a more fair space to launch... And I haven't had the chance to hyper analyze it yet but it seems the ANW5 JS might be farther as well
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Post by thatoneuser on Sept 3, 2013 22:44:01 GMT -5
We getting that spreadsheet again? No; alas, my TV set-up was dodgy this week. Sorry  |
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Post by baronbk on Sept 4, 2013 0:06:49 GMT -5
No; alas, my TV set-up was dodgy this week. Sorry Ah lame. Maybe they'll show it on sat? I'm curious to see how many people they cut out. I only know of two so far. Myself and Jason Williams. |
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Post by arsenette on Sept 4, 2013 0:37:06 GMT -5
No; alas, my TV set-up was dodgy this week. Sorry Ah lame. Maybe they'll show it on sat? I'm curious to see how many people they cut out. I only know of two so far. Myself and Jason Williams. on G4 again for Monday's? |
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Post by sentinel on Sept 4, 2013 1:32:49 GMT -5
Regarding the jumping spider, I remember watching ANW2 (I forget what Sasuke that was) and the jumping spider looked and was incredibly easy for all the American competitors. Yeah, they change stuff up, beat what's in front of you, others cleared, etc, but just pointing out that there was a very significant margin of difference between this jumping spider and past ones.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 4, 2013 3:44:14 GMT -5
ANW2 was Sasuke 26. Ironically enough one of the two tournaments to feature the hardest version of the JS (19 being the other).
Was it possible ANW3 (27) was the one where it looked easy to everyone? Sure there were no American JS fails in either but more Americans got there in 27 (due to 26 having two Rolling Escargot fails)
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Post by thebobmaster on Sept 4, 2013 4:02:32 GMT -5
Two things stood out to me. One, shocking fails become less so when you mention 5 or so "shockers" in the same episode. Two, I'm getting really irritated with the whole "Hey, a demoralized contestant. Let's interview them!" First with Andrew Lowes, and now with Flip!
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Post by kangaroo on Sept 4, 2013 7:20:15 GMT -5
This is back to back years where roughly 50% of the people went out on the jumping spider. Crazy and it looked like on the last night some had problem with grip on the shoes and the plexiglass
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Post by thatoneuser on Sept 4, 2013 9:56:48 GMT -5
No; alas, my TV set-up was dodgy this week. Sorry Ah lame. Maybe they'll show it on sat? I'm curious to see how many people they cut out. I only know of two so far. Myself and Jason Williams. Someone gave me a copy of the episode so I will work on the spreadsheet sometime today. |
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Post by tkdchamp2021 on Sept 4, 2013 10:25:34 GMT -5
Two, I'm getting really irritated with the whole "Hey, a demoralized contestant. Let's interview them!" First with Andrew Lowes, and now with Flip! I completely agree, For Jenn to go to Flip and talk to him while in the state he was in was completely uncalled for. They should have let him have his "private moment in hell" (arsenette quote) before bugging him about where he went wrong. |
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Post by thebobmaster on Sept 4, 2013 11:00:00 GMT -5
By the way, running the numbers of clears to total contestants, the percentage of clears was 24.7%, meaning that it would be approximately the same as 24 contestants clearing a full Sasuke course with 100 competitors. Considering all the problems with this course (the Jumping Spider in particular), that's quite an impressive showing.
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Post by TCM on Sept 4, 2013 11:56:39 GMT -5
You guys are acting like Sasuke never changed up the Jumping Spider from competition to competition. Lol ya, remember sasuke 19's jumping spider compared to others And I had issue with those as well. Note the very next tournement for both, they recognized the problem and fixed it. The Slider Jump in 22 was a perfect difficult obstacle, and it was still modified in 23. The Metal Spin is an example of a difficult obstacle yet there's been little controversy about it. Making an obstacle a little harder is one thing. Making it harder to the point where some people are almost completely spread eagle or where a fail could have been saved in some versions but no chance in another? Bit excessive. Ultimately, yeah, beat what's in front of you, but its almost as ridiculous when someone says 'get a better job' and not noting any circumstances that makes that more difficult for someone. ANW proved obstacles aren't black and white a while ago. If some can hyper-analyze a spec on a fan course pic, I can hyper-analyze when I think an obstacle has been unneedlessly buffed. |
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Post by hashtagswag on Sept 4, 2013 13:36:19 GMT -5
Hehe the js of anw was so crazy it could of been a wipeout obstacle L¤L . Nooo but seriously tho I still think sasuke 19s version was waaay harder . The distance away from the walls were greater ,and the walls looked further away from each other . More so than in anw5 .
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