chackpop
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Post by chackpop on Jul 6, 2013 20:44:04 GMT -5
hey everyone! long time no post anyways, even after the whole time cut and Backstream controversy, Stage Two isnt very difficult at all. Had the Backstream and time cut been ridiculous, say Similiar to Sasuke 28s second stage with 20 less seconds, we would have had atleast 15 clears onto the next stage. And why is this? The Cross Slider is honestly a joke, simply used to start off the stage. The Swap Salmon Ladder serves its purpose but not nearly as well as its predecessors. The Unstable Bridge (only one now) is a joke. The Spider Walk is childs play, its been in Sasuke since its introduction and in the easiest form ever. I feel as if the first half of the course needs to be changed to actual obstacles instead of mere time wasters, back to a more Sasuke 23 like feeling of difficult and fast obstacles. Where do the rest of yall stand?
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Post by Philip on Jul 6, 2013 20:50:09 GMT -5
I kinda liked Sasuke 29's 2nd Stage, but honestly I want a 60 second 2nd Stage like the good ol days.
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Post by jfeathe on Jul 6, 2013 20:58:46 GMT -5
I kinda liked Sasuke 29's 2nd Stage, but honestly I want a 60 second 2nd Stage like the good ol days. There actually has never been a 60 second time limit for the second stage , but I agree that the shorter stages were more fun. Sasuke 23's second stage is the only recent tournament that I feel truly captured the spirit of second stage. 29 not only went too far with the difficulty of the obstacles, but also the time limit was unfair. Regardless of how low the time limit seems in the other tournaments with low 2nd stage time limits, there was always a bit of flexibility built in for a bobble or two.
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Post by Philip on Jul 6, 2013 21:00:30 GMT -5
I kinda liked Sasuke 29's 2nd Stage, but honestly I want a 60 second 2nd Stage like the good ol days. There actually has never been a 60 second time limit for the second stage , but I agree that the shorter stages were more fun. Sasuke 23's second stage is the only recent tournament that I feel truly captured the spirit of second stage. 29 not only went too far with the difficulty of the obstacles, but also the time limit was unfair. Regardless of how low the time limit seems in the other tournaments with low 2nd stage time limits, there was always a bit of flexibility built in for a bobble or two. I was thinking either 50 or 60 I think they should do a 2nd Stage renewal like they did in 29 with the 1st Stage.
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Post by TCM on Jul 6, 2013 21:29:20 GMT -5
The Unstable Bridge has only one board now because of time purposes, had there been two boards, people would be timing out even quicker with the time cut 29 had.
As for the Cross Slider being called a joke, not every obstacle is meant to be deadly. And even then, it took out someone. If anything, the Backstream is the most egregious obstacle.
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Post by mrbignich128 on Jul 7, 2013 15:07:33 GMT -5
My changes for stage 2: 1. 115 seconds for time limit 2. take out the unstable bridge for the swing ladder 3. lower the gap of the wall lifts. I don't want it completely closed but I don't want competitors crawling under it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 2:29:52 GMT -5
Make the time limit 105 seconds Replace Unstable Bridge with Flying Bar Don't allow crawling under walls Get rid of the Spider Walk and replace it with Balance Tank (harder) Tone down Backstream Jets Keep Cross Slider and Salmon Ladder
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 8, 2013 6:29:15 GMT -5
Change/replace usb
Switch Spider Walkfor 19/26 Jumping Spider
Backstream replaced by Circle Cross from Baltimore (I'd say this even if I didn't try it)
Time gets 5-10 second increase for CC
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Post by Amber on Jul 8, 2013 12:29:41 GMT -5
Stage 2 could have been much better in my opinion. I think that: Cross Slider track is longer, to take more energy. Remove Unstable Bridge for a new Stage 2 obstacle (something thats never been on SASUKE) Spider Walk walls should be longer if they want people to fall there. Maybe make a harder Wall Lift, like more walls?
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jul 8, 2013 15:58:40 GMT -5
Keep every obstacle the same, except modify the backstream to make it hard, but not ridiculous.
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Post by Buster1920 on Jul 8, 2013 16:09:28 GMT -5
I think a time limit of 2 minutes and instead of an unstable bridge they should use the Delta Bridge in SASUKE 16.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jul 8, 2013 16:15:23 GMT -5
I think a time limit of 2 minutes and instead of an unstable bridge they should use the Delta Bridge in SASUKE 16. Honestly that's WAY too easy for competitors to do. UB at least is pretty time consuming. I think a hard stage 2 is a great idea. It should stop guys like Ryo who, is honestly, terrible at lifting and shows no strength from going to stage 3, which is probably his best stage. The second stage should be hard, with a very doable/fairly easy first stage. Then Stages 3 and 4 can kill the rest.
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Post by gtoneko on Jul 8, 2013 16:21:28 GMT -5
Despite what a lot of people feel about the Backstream, it's not too bad of an obstacle. With what happened though in 29, it was definitely the biggest load of bull crap that happened, so they definitely need to keep tabs and do the tests once again to make sure it is doable without any issues.
As far as other changes, the need to move the time back up by about 10-20 seconds, otherwise, not as much change is needed.
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Post by Badalight on Jul 9, 2013 3:23:33 GMT -5
Remove backstream. It's an obstacle that malfunctioned terribly and was different for almost every competitor that tried it. Not only that, but it completely goes against the spirit of Sasuke "don't get wet". Plus it makes stage 2 simply too hard. Finally, swimming is a very SPECIFIC skill - it's not simply about fitness. It might fit better on something like Viking or Kinnikun Banzuke, but it has NO place here. Saying the backstream fits in Sasuke is like saying a unicycle obstacle would fit... sure balance is a part of fitness, but riding a unicycle takes a VERY specific skill just like swimming does.
When strong swimmers like Shingo, Kouji, and people who trained hard for the obstacle like Yuuji ALL go down on it... that's a big problem.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jul 9, 2013 5:49:48 GMT -5
Remove backstream. It's an obstacle that malfunctioned terribly and was different for almost every competitor that tried it. Not only that, but it completely goes against the spirit of Sasuke "don't get wet". Plus it makes stage 2 simply too hard. Finally, swimming is a very SPECIFIC skill - it's not simply about fitness. It might fit better on something like Viking or Kinnikun Banzuke, but it has NO place here. Saying the backstream fits in Sasuke is like saying a unicycle obstacle would fit... sure balance is a part of fitness, but riding a unicycle takes a VERY specific skill just like swimming does. When strong swimmers like Shingo, Kouji, and people who trained hard for the obstacle like Yuuji ALL go down on it... that's a big problem. I thought it was simply too hard, I didn't know it malfunctioned. If it returns (which I hope so) then it should be not as hard, say, between the currents from 28 and 29. Is swimming really that specific a skill? It seems like you can do it if you have a good amount of strength. Man I just wanna see Nagano on the backstream.
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Post by Badalight on Jul 9, 2013 12:18:54 GMT -5
Yes swimming is a skill. A lot of people don't even learn how to do it until late in life, and there are plenty of adults that simply can't swim. It's just an issue of strength at all, it's technique.
And not only did it malfunction and not work the way it intended, but they toned the obstacle down later, making it easier. Yet, the people who faced an obviously stronger stream didn't get a retry at the stage.
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Post by crosasukefan99 on Jul 17, 2013 4:44:47 GMT -5
Chain Reaction Swap Salmon Ladder + Stick Slider Spider Walk Balance Tank Metal Spin Wall Lifting Time limit:70 seconds
I would design the stage more as time attack as it was at good old times.I don't want to say I don't like this kind of stage 2 which is test of strength but I like more this version which is test of speed.
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Post by Buster1920 on Jul 17, 2013 20:27:33 GMT -5
Chain Reaction Swap Salmon Ladder + Stick Slider Spider Walk Balance Tank Metal Spin Wall Lifting Time limit:70 seconds How the heck would a course like that be possible?
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jul 17, 2013 22:11:36 GMT -5
Chain Reaction Swap Salmon Ladder + Stick Slider Spider Walk Balance Tank Metal Spin Wall Lifting Time limit:70 seconds I would design the stage more as time attack as it was at good old times.I don't want to say I don't like this kind of stage 2 which is test of strength but I like more this version which is test of speed. And people would time out on the Balance Tank; Metal Spin if they were fast.
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Post by SKC99 on Jul 17, 2013 23:34:55 GMT -5
Chain Reaction Swap Salmon Ladder + Stick Slider Spider Walk Balance Tank Metal Spin Wall Lifting Time limit:70 seconds I would design the stage more as time attack as it was at good old times.I don't want to say I don't like this kind of stage 2 which is test of strength but I like more this version which is test of speed. If it was for Chuck Norris, HELL YEAH!!! But NOT for Sasuke! Also, how cool would it be if there were 5 SUPER easy obstacles, ALL AFTER the Backstream!
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