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Post by thatoneuser on Jul 3, 2013 10:32:53 GMT -5
5. Backstream( No jets of water) 6. Metal Spin facepalm! METAL SPIN....... AFTER BACKSTREAM.......? PLEASE don't request another Sasuke 19! Sorry for quoting the wrong user! I meant to quote demonix! this coming for the same person that requested the Backstream in ANW right before the Spider Walk
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Post by crosasukefan99 on Jul 12, 2013 3:11:09 GMT -5
Stage 1 Rope Glider Rolling log Hedgehog Jump Hang Kai Warped Wall Spin Bridge Final Climb(similar to the Rope Climb but without Tarzan Jump and little taller)
75 seconds
Stage 2 Chain Reaction Swap Salmon Ladder + Stick Slider Spider Walk Balance Tank Metal Spin Wall Lifting
70 seconds
Stage 3 Arm Rings + Arm Bike Curtain Cling(one big curtain) Flying Bars Crazy Cliffhanger Hang Climbing + Resting bar + Pipe Slider
Final Stage Spider Climb Rope Climb
30 seconds
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 12:28:12 GMT -5
Long Jump Hazard Swing Hedgehog Jump Hang Kai Ni Ren Soritatsu Kabe Ladders (Climb one ladder then turn around and climb another)
Time Limit: 105 seconds
Cross Slider Swap Salmon Ladder Unstable Bridge (with both boards) Swinging Beams (from Kunoichi) Backstream Passing Wall
Time Limit: 100 seconds
Third Stage and Final Stage stay the same
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Post by bigblind168 on Jul 14, 2013 23:56:27 GMT -5
Stage 1: Dome Slider, dome steps and step sliders baby Rolling Escargot Cross Bridge Jump Hang Spin Bridge Shin Soritatsu Kabe (goes right from the spin bridge to the wall. Straight line. Wall is increased in height by 20-30cm, to compensate for the longer run up) Rope Climb time: 95 seconds
Stage 2: Chain Reaction Spider walk (5/6) Metal Spin Backstream Wall Lifting time: 80 seconds
Stage 3: Rumbling Dice+Arm bike Body Prob Door Knob Grasper Crazy Cliff Hanger with a shin cliff hanger jump Spider Flip Swap Salmon Ladder **GREEN BAR** Flying bar+ Ascending Pipe Slider (on a 5º angle)
Final Stage: Spider climb (15m) G-Rope (10m) 35 Seconds
Now if Sasuke 30 is the last course I'd design it like this: Stage 1: Step Slider Curtain Slider Rolling Escargot Jump Hang Soritatsu Kabe Rope Climb 80 seconds
Stage 2: Chain Reaction Salmon Ladder+Spider walk (5-6) Balance Tank (13-17) Metal Spin Reverse Conveyor Wall Lifting 75 seconds
Stage 3: Roulette Cylendar Body Prop Doorknob Grasper Crazy Cliffhanger Spider Climb **GREEN BAR** Ascending Pipe slider
Final Stage: 10m Spider climb 15m rope climb
Figure it should go out with a bang, while bringing back some classic obstacles and course feel.
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Post by Greendayfan on Sept 2, 2013 7:05:53 GMT -5
First stage: 115
quintulpe steps log grip (version 18-25) spin bridge jump hang kai warped wall (only warped wall not doule) flying chute tarzan rope rope climb
Second Stage: 105
cross slider double salmon ladder unstable bridge (28-29 version) spider walk (28-29 version) metal spin (remove backstream i hate it) passing wall
Third Stage:
rumbling dice body prop (Body prop was deadly obstacle) flying bar crazy cliffhanger curtain cling vertical limit pipe slider
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Post by SKC99 on Sept 2, 2013 9:00:54 GMT -5
Thanks for bumping this thread. I now have a new design!
Stage 1: 1. Step Slider 2. Sandan Rolling Maruta 3. Chute Swing (custom obstacle) 4. Jump Hang Kai 5. Ni Ren Soritatsu Kabe 6. Tarzan Rope+ 7. Rope Ladder Time Limit: 100 Seconds
Stage 2: 1. Cross Slider 2. Swap Salmon Ladder+ 3. Stick Spider (custom obstacle) 4. Metal Spin 5. Backstream (29 Li-Kong) 6. Passing Wall Time Limit: 100 Seconds
Stage 3: 1. Roulette Cylinder (Sasuke 26)+ 2. Ultimate Plank (Viking) 3. Iron Paddler (Sasuke 28) 4. Crazy Cliffhanger 5. Vertical Limit 6. Rolling Steel (ANW's Iron Paddler)
Stage 4: 1. 13m Flip Climb (custom obstacle)+ 2. 10m G Rope Time Limit: 50 Seconds
+ - Obstacles Together with no Rest
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Post by yamfriend on Sept 2, 2013 16:03:17 GMT -5
Why not.
NOTE: An asterisk (*) represents a new modification of an obstacle.
Stage 1 (Time Limit: 100 seconds)
1.) Long Jump* (jump is reduced from 4.5m to 4m for men and from 3.3m to 3m for women and 50+ year-old competitors) 2.) Rolling Maruta (25 version) 3.) Cross Bridge 4.) Jump Hang (non-13 version) 5.) Soritatsu Kabe* (4.7m tall, i.e. 20cm taller than the second wall of the Ni Ren Soritatsu Kabe) 6.) Tarzan Rope (3-12 version) + 7.) Rope Climb* (3-12 version, except the height of the wall is 7m rather than 5.4m)
Stage 2 (Time Limit: 85 seconds)
1.) Cross Slider 2.) Swap Salmon Ladder + 3.) Unstable Bridge (23-27 version) 4.) Spider Walk (7-17 version) 5.) Balance Tank* (original version, except the track is 7m rather than 5.4m) 6.) Wall Lifting (original version, i.e. the version in which there is a gap of only a few inches at the bottom such that competitors can get a good grip to lift the walls yet not close to enough for them to slide under the walls without even lifting them)
Stage 3 (Time Limit: none) 1.) Rumbling Dice (current version) 2.) Body Prop 3.) Iron Paddler 4.) Crazy Cliffhanger 5.) Curtain Cling 6.) Vertical Limit 7.) Pipe Slider (current version)
Final Stage (Time Limit: 35 seconds) 1.) Spider Climb (12.5m) + 2.) Rope Climb* (12.5m rather than 10m in SASUKE 5-17's Final Stage)
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Post by Philip on Sept 2, 2013 17:27:37 GMT -5
I decided to do a 2nd one 1st Stage: 1- Long Jump (runup shortened to 10m, jump shortened to 4m for men and increased to 3.5m for women and 50+ competitors 2- Log Grip (Sasuke 25 version) 3- Hedgehog 4- Jumping Spider (somewhere between Sasuke 19's and Sasuke 20's) 5- Warped Wall (15ft high) 6- Spin Bridge 7- Tarzan Rope + 8- Rope Climb 95 seconds 2nd Stage: 1- Cross Slider 2- Swap Salmon Ladder + 3- Devil's Swing (Just to get you to the landing, not really an obstacle lol) 4- Flying Nunchucks (no springboard, just a short jump to the first set) 5- Metal Spin 6- Wall Lift 80 seconds 3rd Stage: 1- Iron Paddler 2- Body Prop 3- Curtain Cling 4- Crazy Cliffhanger 5- Circle Cross 6- Vertical Limit 7- Pipe Slider Final Stage: Same as 29's
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Post by tkdchamp2021 on Sept 3, 2013 19:50:21 GMT -5
Can we just take the Long Jump and Backstream out? Let's save those for a revival of Kinniku Banzuke.
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Post by SKC99 on Sept 3, 2013 21:02:43 GMT -5
Can we just take the Long Jump and Backstream out? Let's save those for a revival of Kinniku Banzuke. You never know if Banzuke is coming back or not. It's been ELEVEN years since it was cancelled, so I think it's gone for good.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Sept 3, 2013 21:08:39 GMT -5
Can we just take the Long Jump and Backstream out? Let's save those for a revival of Kinniku Banzuke. You never know if Banzuke is coming back or not. It's been ELEVEN years since it was cancelled, so I think it's gone for good. I think he was joking.
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Post by tkdchamp2021 on Sept 3, 2013 21:09:11 GMT -5
Can we just take the Long Jump and Backstream out? Let's save those for a revival of Kinniku Banzuke. You never know if Banzuke is coming back or not. It's been ELEVEN years since it was cancelled, so I think it's gone for good. Good point, but I just meant that those types of obstacles aren't meant for sasuke. If Banzuke does come back (which it probably won't) Backstream would be a good obstacle for a swimming theme thing. Or maybe if they bring back Sportsman NO. 1. (They probably won't). If they just keep increasing the length of the long jump, we could have a Monster Box type event. And same for the backstream. If they set a limit, they could do an event for it. I know, it's improbable. But, what if? In short, take out those obstacles.
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Post by Lennon on Sept 9, 2013 11:24:30 GMT -5
To be honest. There wouldn't be much to change for me. Stage 1: Long Jump Log Grip Hedgehog Jump Hang Kai Soritatsu Kabe Flying Chute (rewatching 21 made me want it back. ) Tarzan Rope Rope Ladder Stage 2: I would put time back up by 20-25 seconds. Other then that, same as 29. Stage 3: Would be exactly the same as 29. Stage 4: Same as 29. So yeah, only some slight changes. I would hope to see more changes though by 31. It's not me being lazy, just thinking realistically.
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Post by VinnieDAnderson on Feb 14, 2014 18:09:58 GMT -5
I wanted to post this in "How would you change the course for sasuke 30" but it's been longer then 3 months since someone posted there so this was the most fitting current forum. Sorry Arsenette! Big fan. so just delete this if it's unwanted or annoying.
I haven't seen anyone straight say this in any of the forums here so.. Stage 2 is currently made of 4 time wasting obstacles (The one board unstable bridge is impossible to fail if you have finished the swap salmon ladder. The spider walk is by no means easy but by now so many people have trained for it that it is just a matter of your time through it. We all know about the Backstream and then the walls are fair enough because they've always been that last "Can he make it through with 10 seconds left" obstacle.
But this is sad. Stage 2 is meant to be a test of Speed+Strength and the current course set-up just does not do this. I'm a fan of all of these obstacles but the state of the competition would simply be better with a big change here. I'd make it Cross Slider-Swap Salmon Ladder-Double Unstable Bridge-Metal Swing-28's Backstream-Wall Lift. Yes I'm leaving the Backstream in. Obstacles shouldn't be taken out because they're too hard. That defeats the idea of it being the most difficult it can be. They need one more year with Backstream turned down so that it can be beaten properly and become outdated.
Also, stage 3. Why bring back curtain cling and rumbling dice when they have 2 of the lowest stage 3 elimination counts. 3 & 2 respectively. Seems counter-intuitive. It should be Plank-Iron Paddle-CCH-Floating Boards-Vertical Limit-Flying Bars(5xSet) as these are the current highest elimination count/newest obstacles. (People may disagree with the plank but that one's personal choice)
Stage 1-Speed. Stage 2-Speed+Strength. Stage 3-The hardest Strength obstacles at the time. It's how it's meant to be =[
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Post by TCM on Feb 14, 2014 22:56:44 GMT -5
I wanted to post this in "How would you change the course for sasuke 30" but it's been longer then 3 months since someone posted there so this was the most fitting current forum. Sorry Arsenette! Big fan. so just delete this if it's unwanted or annoying.I haven't seen anyone straight say this in any of the forums here so.. Stage 2 is currently made of 4 time wasting obstacles (The one board unstable bridge is impossible to fail if you have finished the swap salmon ladder. The spider walk is by no means easy but by now so many people have trained for it that it is just a matter of your time through it. We all know about the Backstream and then the walls are fair enough because they've always been that last "Can he make it through with 10 seconds left" obstacle. But this is sad. Stage 2 is meant to be a test of Speed+Strength and the current course set-up just does not do this. I'm a fan of all of these obstacles but the state of the competition would simply be better with a big change here. I'd make it Cross Slider-Swap Salmon Ladder-Double Unstable Bridge-Metal Swing-28's Backstream-Wall Lift. Yes I'm leaving the Backstream in. Obstacles shouldn't be taken out because they're too hard. That defeats the idea of it being the most difficult it can be. They need one more year with Backstream turned down so that it can be beaten properly and become outdated. Also, stage 3. Why bring back curtain cling and rumbling dice when they have 2 of the lowest stage 3 elimination counts. 3 & 2 respectively. Seems counter-intuitive. It should be Plank-Iron Paddle-CCH-Floating Boards-Vertical Limit-Flying Bars(5xSet) as these are the current highest elimination count/newest obstacles. (People may disagree with the plank but that one's personal choice) Stage 1-Speed. Stage 2-Speed+Strength. Stage 3-The hardest Strength obstacles at the time. It's how it's meant to be =[ I think that's why I appreciate the Backstream. It's something different. It's breaking familiarity, to the point how do you top "water that isn't a stage hazard" in terms of a new obstacle? It's an honest attempt at trying to change up the course. I've always seen Stage 2 as a time waster, otherwise in the beginning, why have one REALLY long obstacle that takes up the majority of the time on the course? While I'll agree the one-board Unstable Bridge is useless, the Spider Walk in Stage 2 has always been "your success depends on how long you've taken crossing it". To be honest, all the Jumping Spider did was add a trampoline, which added a new and interesting element, but never changed the spider walls themselves or how they function. I don't think making the Unstable Bridge longer (why not just go back to the normal, original obstacle, which I would be for) and adding the Metal Spin changes anything. Not to mention, it will have another experimental time limit that will either be too much (like in 28) or too little (like in 29), especially because the Backstream hasn't been consistent either. I think it's less what the "state" of the competition is, and more that the 'sweet spot' hasn't been reached yet, considering not every competitor had the same Backstream level, meaning that not everyone got a fair, equal chance. As for Stage 3, the course itself hasn't really ever been about "which obstacles gets the most fails a tournament", otherwise the course should just be one large Godantobi/Quintuple Steps path with varying degrees of slickness since it's the only obstacle where literally half the field was taken out, even if for reasons outside the staff's control. The Jumping Bars didn't take out anyone past its first two tournaments, yet still stayed around for 9 more tournaments, while the Floating Boards (to use an example you're suggesting) didn't take anyone in Japan out and got scrapped the next tournament. Inui brought back, in regards to Stage 3, staples. When you think of Stage 3 obstacles, you're going to think of the Curtain Cling, the Rumbling Dice; obstacles that may not have been stage killers, but all the same are menacing. I certainly would bring back an obstacle that involves moving an heavy object that likely causes your hands to vibrate because of metal on metal. I also would bring back an obstacle that asks its competitors to hold their entire body weight on a piece (or pieces) of fabric.
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Post by VinnieDAnderson on Feb 15, 2014 0:05:06 GMT -5
Not replying because it's getting long here haha Good points, especially on the stage 3 part. Bringing back old favorites that test different grips and strengths is definitely what they aimed for and in that regard Curtain Cling and Rumbling dice are awesome. In fact Curtain Cling is one of the obstacles i wish they'd update like they do the cliffhangers. Rumbling Dice is definitely better then the arm bike. I'm just a fan of new obstacles in the end and that's personal choice really.
You're right that the floating boards haven't eliminated many contestants in Japan but I took the American results in to consideration as you may have guessed. I'm a big a fan of the Flying Bar finish for stage 3. (Not jumping bars, they're monkey bars for adults) It's drama with every leap rather then just the one leap you get on a pipe slider.
Also, this is my bad but Double Unstable Bridge just meant the original obstacle. 4 boards is way too much. I wouldn't be a huge fan but if they want rumbling dice around, i'd deal with it replacing that 1 board bridge in stage 2 but prefer the Original unstable bridge. I'd prefer a new obstacle replace the metal spin in my plan but I don't wanna start creating in this thread haha
I think my view of stage 3 might of come down to personal choice/wishes too. It's not that I want it to be "which obstacle gets the most fails" I more want the course to be more difficult and new every time there's a total victory. In that regard, even my own stage 3 set-up fails as it contains Floating Boards, Flying Bar and the Plank instead. Again I didn't want to create obstacles here. Otherwise I'd have thrown in my Curtain Climber from the Home made Course thread.
Thanks for your reply. It's cool to hear someone else's opinion of this. I've thought about it for ages haha
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 15, 2014 0:34:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't be a huge fan but if they want rumbling dice around, i'd deal with it replacing that 1 board bridge in stage 2 but prefer the Original unstable bridge. I would much rather have the proper Unstable Bridge over the Rumbling Dice after any Salmon Ladder too...But anyways they really need to get back to their roots as far as the courses go, or rather where it's evolved into, Stage 1 in both tournaments both felt so random and I don't like the current stage 2 at all... It's just a series of unintimidating obstacles with the exception of one out of place one adjusted multiple times in tournament and not giving everyone an equal shot. Honestly I'd just throw out Stage 2 aside from the Cross Slider and Passing Wall. Despite the fail ratio the Swap Salmon Ladder isn't that difficult and on top of being easy is dull to watch. The one board Unstable Bridge is just a joke and awful considering what it once was... The Spider Walk was a stage 2 staple but ever since the Jumping Spider having it back in Stage 2 feels so weird after having it evolve into a Stage 1 skill and get a demotion from either obstacle it was Backstream I already covered and we all know...
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Post by VinnieDAnderson on Feb 15, 2014 1:44:53 GMT -5
Scrapping Stage 2 would be Harsh but yeah, it might be needed. Really, this is a new company so we should consider it somewhat of a prototype. Work out the kinks and it can be good. Maybe redesign the swap salmon ladder to be more like an upward flying bar. That would be a spectacle and still tests the same skill. And I have one in my Home made course thread post but a spiderwalk with jumping gaps would be another spectacle that could fit stage 1 or 2. You just have the landing lower then the jumping position. I kinda think they figured out stage 1 last year but the double wall is definitely an issue for me. Something I was thinking was that they could combine the tarzan rope finish and jump hang kai, then throw the jumping spider back in. Think that's dreaming though really.
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Post by Lachlan on Feb 15, 2014 6:10:36 GMT -5
Attachment DeletedMy design- FIRST STAGE ①: Rokudantobi ②: Sandan Rolling Maruta ③: Jumping Spider (SASUKE 20-24 version) ④: Halfpipe Attack ⑤: Soritatsu kabe (4.5 Metres) ⑥: Spin Bridge ⑦: Tarzan Rope+Rope Ladder Time Limit- around 100秒 SECOND STAGE ①: Spider Walk (1-4 version) ②: Double Salmon Ladder ③: Stick Slider ④: Balance tank (24 version) ⑤: Metal Spin ⑥: Wall lifting (35, 45, 50) Time Limit: 95秒 THIRD STAGE: this one took me HOURS to come up with a good idea 1. Arm Rings 2. Arm Bike 3. Curtain Cling 4. Iron Paddler 5. Crazy Cliffhanger 6. Sending Climber (19 version) 7. Spider flip --- GREEN BAR OF SAFTEY --- 8. Pipe slider (28-29 version) FINAL STAGE 1. Spider climb (10 M) 2. Heavenly Ladder (10 M) 3. Double G Rope (2 x 5M HEIGHT: 30 METRES TIME LIMIT: 40秒 Edit: added stage 1 from my version 1 design
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 6:30:07 GMT -5
1: Walk 1cm
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