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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jun 30, 2013 16:26:08 GMT -5
Morimoto definitely should be one. He had the standout perfomance.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 30, 2013 16:33:04 GMT -5
In the past so far (using history.. provided I remember correctly LOL) TBS kept adding to the Shin Sedai (that's how we got Tajima in there with only a single 3rd stage performance). Bunpei was added with 2 performances, Nagano with 1 and so on. A lot of the name goes also with fame (meaning how much fans talk about them or write into the station about). I remember the story of Bunpei where he was cut from the show but brought back because TBS viewers ASKED for him back. Then he did ridiculously well and was immediately added to the list despite TBS thinking he lacked personality. So it's a mixture of both fame and actual results. Explains why Asa as added before he even cleared stage 1. As far as Hioki goes he has the same length of time in the STQ roster as all the other Shin Sedai right now so that's why I'm thinking they are just giving themselves a cushion with adding a lot of people to the list. They also don't fall into the trap of the "All-stars" where they were basically married to a single set of 6 guys and created a show around the 6 to the exclusion of just about everyone else. Shin Sedai might be treated differently. Then again.. the core of them (the 4) came here to Vegas as the ambassadors so I'm still curious how they are going to handle the group as a whole.
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Post by Buster1920 on Jun 30, 2013 16:36:12 GMT -5
People like okuyama lee and kongu kind of formed their own sort of group . The older experienced atlethes . There are people that are between Sasuke All-Stars and Shin Sedai that are the older experienced athletes particularly by Ninja Warrior nicknamed "veterans" these include: Kongu Li Okuyama Naoki Iketani Daisuke Nakata Shunsuke These are not all, but these are some.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Jul 2, 2013 8:43:29 GMT -5
So, someone please enlighten me. Are Tajima and Sato still part of it, or have they been erased from the group, kind of like Kosugi and Omori were from the All-Stars in the early tournaments?
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2013 9:22:06 GMT -5
So, someone please enlighten me. Are Tajima and Sato still part of it, or have they been erased from the group, kind of like Kosugi and Omori were from the All-Stars in the early tournaments? No idea about Tajima or Sato (Jun) as we haven't seen them lately. Remember that this new TBS crew creating Sasuke Rising never knew who they were as was evident by the mixing up of the names already given (i.e. Kouji). As for Kosugi and Omori.. they were NEVER part of the All-stars. The All-stars were created to fill the void created by Kosugi LEAVING Sasuke. Not before.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Jul 2, 2013 10:09:22 GMT -5
So, someone please enlighten me. Are Tajima and Sato still part of it, or have they been erased from the group, kind of like Kosugi and Omori were from the All-Stars in the early tournaments? No idea about Tajima or Sato (Jun) as we haven't seen them lately. Remember that this new TBS crew creating Sasuke Rising never knew who they were as was evident by the mixing up of the names already given (i.e. Kouji). As for Kosugi and Omori.. they were NEVER part of the All-stars. The All-stars were created to fill the void created by Kosugi LEAVING Sasuke. Not before. Huh, that's interesting. I remember reading this one website (forget its name) that considered them ex-members or whatever. That would make sense though, because SASUKE 9 was the tournament where Nagano had his big run that made him famous, which happened to be right after Kosugi left. Thanks for clearing that up though. I personally think the Shin Sedai should be revamped, because I don't think Sato or Tajima are really in for it, seeing their absence from tournaments recently. Would be cool to see them again though! I'm pretty sure Morimoto may be part of it next tournament, along with the other five (Asa, Kanno, Yuuji, Hashimoto, Matachi). It seems like they're hinting Hioki as a member too, but he hasn't done anything truly outstanding yet. I guess time will tell.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2013 10:19:05 GMT -5
No idea about Tajima or Sato (Jun) as we haven't seen them lately. Remember that this new TBS crew creating Sasuke Rising never knew who they were as was evident by the mixing up of the names already given (i.e. Kouji). As for Kosugi and Omori.. they were NEVER part of the All-stars. The All-stars were created to fill the void created by Kosugi LEAVING Sasuke. Not before. Huh, that's interesting. I remember reading this one website (forget its name) that considered them ex-members or whatever. That would make sense though, because SASUKE 9 was the tournament where Nagano had his big run that made him famous, which happened to be right after Kosugi left. Thanks for clearing that up though. I personally think the Shin Sedai should be revamped, because I don't think Sato or Tajima are really in for it, seeing their absence from tournaments recently. Would be cool to see them again though! I'm pretty sure Morimoto may be part of it next tournament, along with the other five (Asa, Kanno, Yuuji, Hashimoto, Matachi). It seems like they're hinting Hioki as a member too, but he hasn't done anything truly outstanding yet. I guess time will tell. I mentioned before that it seems obvious that the new crew handling Sasuke now didn't have the benefit of actually watching the last 8 years of Sasuke. Well I say "benefit" because I would have continued watching but for them it's obviously a job and nothing more. But anyway, digressing.. because they didn't bother "repeating Monster 9" history they made everyone go through audition/trials the past 2 tournaments to come up with a new set of people. Lost in the shuffle were a lot of vets and even some Shin Sedai. Gone are the days of when you made the 2nd stage you automatically came back and if you were a 3rd stage or finalist you were invited for life. Now the new crew seems to be rewriting history much to the chagrin of the fans. I know Kouji's reinsertion back into the Shin Sedai line up has everything to do with Yuuji defiantly defending his friend. Now with him being destroyed in the hard version of the backstream who knows what will happen to Kouji. As for the other 2 Shin Sedai that were taken off the list.. they have been trying to get back on the show but TBS doesn't care for them. It's obvious. Maybe if enough people asked about them? The only problem was that Jun never got to stage 3 and Tajima never got back out of the first stage when he WAS invited back before M9 collapsed.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Jul 2, 2013 10:31:06 GMT -5
Huh, that's interesting. I remember reading this one website (forget its name) that considered them ex-members or whatever. That would make sense though, because SASUKE 9 was the tournament where Nagano had his big run that made him famous, which happened to be right after Kosugi left. Thanks for clearing that up though. I personally think the Shin Sedai should be revamped, because I don't think Sato or Tajima are really in for it, seeing their absence from tournaments recently. Would be cool to see them again though! I'm pretty sure Morimoto may be part of it next tournament, along with the other five (Asa, Kanno, Yuuji, Hashimoto, Matachi). It seems like they're hinting Hioki as a member too, but he hasn't done anything truly outstanding yet. I guess time will tell. I mentioned before that it seems obvious that the new crew handling Sasuke now didn't have the benefit of actually watching the last 8 years of Sasuke. Well I say "benefit" because I would have continued watching but for them it's obviously a job and nothing more. But anyway, digressing.. because they didn't bother "repeating Monster 9" history they made everyone go through audition/trials the past 2 tournaments to come up with a new set of people. Lost in the shuffle were a lot of vets and even some Shin Sedai. Gone are the days of when you made the 2nd stage you automatically came back and if you were a 3rd stage or finalist you were invited for life. Now the new crew seems to be rewriting history much to the chagrin of the fans. I know Kouji's reinsertion back into the Shin Sedai line up has everything to do with Yuuji defiantly defending his friend. Now with him being destroyed in the hard version of the backstream who knows what will happen to Kouji. As for the other 2 Shin Sedai that were taken off the list.. they have been trying to get back on the show but TBS doesn't care for them. It's obvious. Maybe if enough people asked about them? The only problem was that Jun never got to stage 3 and Tajima never got back out of the first stage when he WAS invited back before M9 collapsed. Well, that's ridiculous... it's also ridiculous to take away the 'All-Star' titles from all those guys. Seriously, they EARNED that title, and they've claimed it for years. Shingo shouldn't have to go through trials just to get back on the show. He is SASUKE history. They better invite him back automatically. I feel bad for the other Shin Sedai members (ex?) too, especially Kouji. They really need to set this up properly. I don't want the 30th anniversary being a complete disaster. That would ruin the show for me.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2013 10:36:41 GMT -5
I mentioned before that it seems obvious that the new crew handling Sasuke now didn't have the benefit of actually watching the last 8 years of Sasuke. Well I say "benefit" because I would have continued watching but for them it's obviously a job and nothing more. But anyway, digressing.. because they didn't bother "repeating Monster 9" history they made everyone go through audition/trials the past 2 tournaments to come up with a new set of people. Lost in the shuffle were a lot of vets and even some Shin Sedai. Gone are the days of when you made the 2nd stage you automatically came back and if you were a 3rd stage or finalist you were invited for life. Now the new crew seems to be rewriting history much to the chagrin of the fans. I know Kouji's reinsertion back into the Shin Sedai line up has everything to do with Yuuji defiantly defending his friend. Now with him being destroyed in the hard version of the backstream who knows what will happen to Kouji. As for the other 2 Shin Sedai that were taken off the list.. they have been trying to get back on the show but TBS doesn't care for them. It's obvious. Maybe if enough people asked about them? The only problem was that Jun never got to stage 3 and Tajima never got back out of the first stage when he WAS invited back before M9 collapsed. Well, that's ridiculous... it's also ridiculous to take away the 'All-Star' titles from all those guys. Seriously, they EARNED that title, and they've claimed it for years. Shingo shouldn't have to go through trials just to get back on the show. He is SASUKE history. They better invite him back automatically. I feel bad for the other Shin Sedai members (ex?) too, especially Kouji. They really need to set this up properly. I don't want the 30th anniversary being a complete disaster. That would ruin the show for me. WHO KEEPS SAYING THEY TOOK AWAY THE ALL-STAR TITLES? ? Seriously this needs to stop. Shingo wanted to live up to the name again but he never lost it. Takeda and Nagano were INTRODUCED as All-stars.. so where the hell are people get the idea that they lost the titles? As for re-invites only TBS is in control of that. Given that Shingo personally was invited to go to Vegas this year to participate in the Japan vs. USA with the other 4 named Shin Sedai (before 29 was aired) I'm thinking his invite is pretty secure. As for the rest of what Shin Sedai will look like from now on is really anyone's guess. I don't think TBS knows wtf they want to do with them. They named Hioki on this tourney if I heard right at the start line BEFORE his run... So who knows.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 2, 2013 16:13:00 GMT -5
Two corrections: Tajima did clear stage 1 again, he did it in 27 and failed the Slider Drop
As for Shingo if I remember correctly shingo already had the invite (granted we knew before he did lol) but went to trials anyways
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2013 16:52:58 GMT -5
No, Shingo didn't get the invitation until after the Trials. It's just that we knew he'd gotten before he did.
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