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Post by lostinube on Dec 28, 2012 1:31:52 GMT -5
Since we are no longer in the realm of speculation, might as well start a new thread.
Of note, Inui just mentioned on twitter that they (unwillingly or not, I do not know) did not use any of the old M9 sets and they had to rebuild everything from scratch. That would definitely impact the way the course was designed and may explain the retro obstacles. We know that most obstacle development and testing is done very close to the actual filming (not the most effective use of time but that is just how it is done) so they would not have had much time to throw a whole bunch of new stuff together.
Edit: To infer from a later tweet, it looks like maybe the M9 bankruptcy resulted in all their stuff going away too. Also, he mentions budget constraints.
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Post by r34gtr on Dec 28, 2012 2:06:14 GMT -5
I knew they'd modify the Spin Bridge... they also seem like they spin more easily than the ones from 27. Then again, people just hopped over the third ball so it didn't do much. Just seeing so many people fall on them....
Why did the 2nd wall (in the double Soritatsu Kabe) seem taller? The Sasukepedia said it was equivalent to the Shin-SASUKE version but it was probably a few feet taller.
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Post by arsenette on Dec 28, 2012 2:08:36 GMT -5
I knew they'd modify the Spin Bridge... they also seem like they spin more easily than the ones from 27. Then again, people just hopped over the third ball so it didn't do much. Just seeing so many people fall on them.... Why did the 2nd wall (in the double Soritatsu Kabe) seem taller? The Sasukepedia said it was equivalent to the Shin-SASUKE version but it was probably a few feet taller. Because the first wall was shorter..
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Post by thebobmaster on Dec 28, 2012 2:11:54 GMT -5
I liked most of the obstacles, actually. The only one I was iffy on was the Water Tank. It's not so much the fact that it's different as the fact that it is just a dull obstacle to watch, even by the standards of time-draining obstacles.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 28, 2012 9:30:13 GMT -5
Something was different about the second wall. I think it had a different shape or something.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 28, 2012 11:42:56 GMT -5
Yeah the shape did look just slightly off but it didn't look too different... one thing to note is it really looked smoother, like it was much easier to slip on...
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Post by Apexe on Dec 28, 2012 13:25:25 GMT -5
Can anyone get pictures or explain what the Cross Slider, Wall Passing, Iron Paddler, and Vertical Limit?
EDIT: I don't really need an explanation of the Iron Paddler since I kinda know what it is already.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 28, 2012 14:05:39 GMT -5
Can anyone get pictures or explain what the Cross Slider, Wall Passing, Iron Paddler, and Vertical Limit? Sure, in chronological order of course placement: Cross Slider: An Arms-Only Spider Walk like thing that requires you to hang on as it slides down the track, you then have to let go over and drop onto the island, allowing you to move on to the Swap Salmon Ladder Passing Wall: Almost identical to the Wall Lifting with two changes, Wall one has a piece of foam on the front of it (for safety after the slide between the Backstream and Passing Wall) with two holes guiding where to lift from, Wall 2 is the only real change since instead of a lift upwards it's two spring loaded (or similar mechanism) walls that must be pushed apart horizontally, it is unknown how much resistance the second wall has and has received much criticism... Iron Paddler: A crankshaft with wheels on the end, competitors must be up over the bar and move it along the track, think of it as the Arm Bike but the actual attempt is at waist level Vertical Limit: A 1 CM ledge at the bottom of a flat wall that must be crossed, primarily with pinch grip across. Something of note is there's a second higher green bar next to the obstacle as something to grab onto at the end to make it onto the actual rest bar before the Pipe Slider
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Post by Apexe on Dec 28, 2012 19:45:04 GMT -5
The Cross Slider seems incredibly hard...also I guess I still don't know where he fails, but I could recognize Kanno on the Iron Paddler. Also, I hope you don't mind if I use the descriptions on Wikipedia. I haven't done it yet, but do you mind?
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Post by RedHerring on Dec 29, 2012 1:26:33 GMT -5
I didn't really see the point of the Jump Hang Kai. It's like, people only grab onto one side, so why have both? So they can choose? Just seems unnecessary.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 29, 2012 7:35:55 GMT -5
I didn't really see the point of the Jump Hang Kai. It's like, people only grab onto one side, so why have both? So they can choose? Just seems unnecessary. I don't think that's a fair judgment, most of the competitors got cut, all the competitors we saw used the right one, this is true, but the thing is we don't know how many people used the right one... Hell... It could have been more popular in the whole field than the one that got shown all the time... You really can't judge based on stuff we've barely seen
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Post by lostinube on Dec 29, 2012 7:58:01 GMT -5
Symmetry probably plays a part in there being nets on both sides. The obstacle is a modified Jump Hang but at the same time, it was replacing something that had two prominent walls. The course looks fuller if you have two nets rather than one.
And while we do not know how many attempts were made and how many went right or left, we can look at the old Jumping Spider for a hint as to how people would treat the new Jump Hang. If they attempted that and led with their right hand, they would probably do so with the new obstacle. Go farther back and look at the original Jump Hang; are people predominantly jumping and landing to the right of the net or the left? Although people are encouraged (to be nice) to write and eat with their right hands in Japan, there are just as many natural lefties as there would be anywhere else so it is not out of the realm of possibility that someone will or has gone left.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 29, 2012 10:08:31 GMT -5
I thought the Jump Hang was supposed to be like a net-spider walk.
Still liked it though.
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Post by Apexe on Jan 3, 2013 14:10:19 GMT -5
Are any third stage obstacles connected together (w/o a place where you can stop and rest, is what i meant)
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jan 3, 2013 14:18:47 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Badalight on Jan 3, 2013 14:19:12 GMT -5
Are any third stage obstacles connected together (w/o a place where you can stop and rest, is what i meant) Why do you keep asking questions? Just go watch the tourney
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Post by Apexe on Jan 3, 2013 15:45:20 GMT -5
Because I have false hope that a US channel will air it.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 3, 2013 15:58:55 GMT -5
Because I have false hope that a US channel will air it. You came to the wrong place though.. we are discussing obstacles on a show we all saw. If you have no intention of watching.. wait until you do THEN come back to the thread. Otherwise it doesn't do anyone else any favors.
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Post by Apexe on Jan 3, 2013 16:02:32 GMT -5
I don't have anymore questions anymore. That was the last one. It was mainly because of the Wikipedia table again.
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Post by Badalight on Jan 3, 2013 16:10:40 GMT -5
I don't have anymore questions anymore. That was the last one. It was mainly because of the Wikipedia table again. There are no connected obstacle in stage 3.
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