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Post by lhii789 on Dec 27, 2012 12:08:58 GMT -5
This was a good tournament. Not bad for a new start. I like how 1st Stage looks simplistic, where it goes straight from beginning. I was surprised how Spin Bridge took out a lot of competitors (Kouji, Li, Yamamoto, Akiyama, etc.). 1st Stage clearers were...... not that surprising since 4/5 were promoted during Navi. ;D (Seriously, 4 of them were promoted as "New Generation" during Navi; only "newbies" who passed 1st Stage was #44 Someya which was only surprise) What really surprised me was that none of the Americans (ANW4 competitors; Joseph and Will) were shown, including Fast Forward. Considering that there were promoting on TBS website (T-shirt) and video from FaceBook (I think), you would think they would have shown. I also noticed none of the SASUKE Mayalsia/Singapore competitors were shown as well (including "Cat"). Strange. Considering that TBS has been mentioning about their hype and promotion. For All-Stars.... exactly what I expected, where every one fail. For Akiyama, I wasn't all that surprise because of his vision (although he could have passed during daytime; like he did in Viking.) I was VERY surprised with Takeda's fail. That was not expected. It's not very like him to make that kind of mistake. First (and last time) he failed area before trampoline area. At the interview, he mentioned that he wasn't satisfied with his result and wants to come back if they allow him to (although that's not going to happen). For Yamamoto....... pretty much I expected. Next. For Yamada, I knew he's going to fail at the wall, but he did good job and had a nice speech at the end. Wonder what he's going to do next. Nagano was bit surprising. He hasn't failed the Wall obstacle for decade. I like how his SASUKE journey begins with Wall fail (SASUKE 7) and end with Wall fail. 2nd Stage was okay. I wasn't impressed with 1st obstacle (Slider Drop was harder) Salmon Ladder and Bridge combo were fine. Spider Walk was......... easy. I like the water tank obstacle. Future competitors of SASUKE needs to learn how to swim well (should be part of prerequisite for application). I like how water tank obstacle transitions to wall lifting by using "slide". Passing Wall looks okay. I prefer the old Wall Lifting though. It's been a while since we've seen someone fail here. 3rd Stage is a BEAST. Rumbling Dice was........ easy. Iron Paddler was really slow and painful to watch. Seriously who came up with that obstacle? Yuuji really had hard time with this. Crazy Cliffhanger needs no introduction. Even a guy who NEVER failed 3rd Stage (Yuuji) failed which was shocking. (Then again he did struggle obstacle before this). Yuuji fail proves that Yuuji is a human (yeah I know it's corny) and there is no such thing as "perfect" competitor. Overall, it was very good and exciting tournament. I hope ratings would be high enough for SASUKE RISING 2/SASUKE 29. I read from Inui's tweet's week ago that if the show doesn't get above 15, then they would cancel the show.
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Post by VeryCoolAlan on Dec 27, 2012 12:22:27 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^ This
BTW Ryo needs to definitely work on his lower body lol maybe squat some run more I was expecting Yuuji to not be a able to lift the walls but wow he definitely got stronger ....
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 27, 2012 12:39:22 GMT -5
What happened to Yamada? Did he hurt his ankle again?
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Post by wolf4537 on Dec 27, 2012 13:07:58 GMT -5
I'm SO pissed that I missed this tournament. Hopefully I can actually watch it all soon and not sleep through it again XD
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Post by oland11 on Dec 27, 2012 13:27:47 GMT -5
This was a sad day for all of the All-stars.
Yamada was jogging through. I knew he wouldn't make it. Akiyama I expected to fail at the Warped wall. Yamamoto had trouble with the spin bridge before. I knew he'd fall. Takeda Just wow. I would NEVER expect that to happen to him. Nagano That is just incredible that he couldn't finish.
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Post by ngyk on Dec 27, 2012 13:32:10 GMT -5
yamada is just too old for this now :/
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 27, 2012 13:32:48 GMT -5
I think Yamada was the only one who didn't choke.
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Post by blah123 on Dec 27, 2012 13:48:09 GMT -5
All I can say is wow. What a tournament. Sasuke never fails to amaze and surprise me. (1) All-Stars. I must say I’m not surprised, except by Nagano. I thought Yamada’s run was the most inspirational and emotional of all 100 competitors. Although he timed out, he finally sought redemption on the WW. And he looked injured or something, what was up with that? Or is he just that slow? I’m looking forward for all of them, but him especially, to start a new chapter of life. However, I’m disappointed Nagano didn’t give a final speech but whatever that’s just me. For him, the story ends where it began. He will go in my book as the 2nd best Sasuke competitor of all time, and the rest of them in the top 10. Hats off to all of them. (2) I’m shocked and disappointed TBS didn’t play the whole international thing. Cat, the Americans, and whoever else if any not even FF’ed?? And they didn’t really talk about ANW or Sasuke Singapore/Malaysia/Europe at all. Why the heck would they make that promotional Facebook video, hype them in Navi, give them 90-something bibs, and not even FF them?? (Side note: thanks Cat for being in the chat, that was really cool! It’s too bad you timed out but congrats on making it farther than 90+ people!) (3) As (almost) always, I loved all the obstacles. I loved all the new things, was glad to see some classics, and I’m really looking forward to seeing people train for the CCH and see the Vertical Limit in action. My only complaint is that I’ve always been more a fan of an easy Stage 1/hard Stage 2 (like ANW4), than a hard Stage 1/easy Stage 2 (like 28). (4) I never really paid attention to Asa until now, but I’m already in love with him. Can’t wait to see how he progresses. And was he on meth or what? (5) Who the heck was that guy in green demoing Stage 3? He didn’t look Japanese. Dude needs to compete next time lol. (6) All in all, the shock factor was off the charts for this one. And that’s why I fell in love with Sasuke in the first place. Here’s hoping for ratings and a 29 and beyond (and ANW5 .
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Post by SRW on Dec 27, 2012 14:08:07 GMT -5
Nagano is the greatest of all time and I dont care what people say, he is! Then the beastly Japanese guy in stage 3 testing then matachi yuuji etc lol.
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Post by bigblind168 on Dec 27, 2012 14:22:50 GMT -5
Loved it. Loved it. Loved it Loved it. This is exactly how a renewal tournament should be. Stage 1 was tough, and an unexpected killer. I think if they can find a way to knock off 15 seconds, that'd be ideal. Seeing people we thought were going to pass- kouji, wakky, nagano- fail was heartbreaking but just added to the brutality of the stage. The all-stars last runs were very moving. The interviews, especially akiyama's made me tear up. This may be the only time I would not laugh when Shingo failed. I thought Yamada ended exactly where he should have. He timed out at the top of the wall. Ontop of his nemesis, I think that was a GREAT way to end his Sasuke career. Nagano having failed the same place he failed the first time was pretty cool aswell. The thing I love about these brutal first stages in a renewal, is when someone clears it goes from "Oh cool, he cleared" to "YES! He finally got through!", It makes the clear feel MUCH more special. Stage 2 was great. Every who bitches about the time, remember this- After every redesign of stage 2 they ALWAYS go with a very lenient time limit. Now for the obstacles, The first one was... umm... cool to watch, but near unfailable. I don't like the switch salmon ladder. It just seems a bit too tedious. It's a good obstacle, but I'm just not a fan. The UB, take away 2 or 3 wires and you got something hard again. The SW was nice to have back in the old form, I just want some moving walls back. The swimtank I thought was pretty awesome. It's really put there as the energy killer the stage has needed for oh so long. Wall lifting made me realize one thing- they don't want a "Yuuji" to win anymore. More on that later. I think the 2nd wall wasn't an issue this time because the 3 who got there had time. I think when there is 5seconds left that wall will create a lot of issues. Stage 3 was spectacular. I can't wait to see it all in action! Rumbling dice is great. The iron paddle is another reason why they don't want a yuuji to win. The CCH, oh god, that's probably not a hard cliff hanger. However, after the paddle! Oh lawdy you're dead. Overall, it had flaws yes, but everything in the tournament seemed to work out. Can't wait to find out the ratings and for Sasuke 29! Oh and, box girl
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Post by jfeathe on Dec 27, 2012 14:30:52 GMT -5
My 3 biggest takeaways:
1) What the hell was with the insane number of commercials at the beginning? As a casual viewer, I would have gotten so frustrated I might have changed the channel. I hope that doesn't hurt ratings. They could have spread the CMs out a bit more especially since there were a few stretches that seemed 20-30 minutes uninterrupted.
2) Stage 1 time limit was insanely tight. I know everyone was complaining before the broadcast about how lenient it was, but people forget how time consuming the Rolling Escargot, the Jump Hang, and the Final Climb are.
3) I have to commend Yuuji, Asa, and Kanno on excellent Stage 2 time management. The time limit was perhaps too lenient, but the obstacles were rough. They knew they didn't have to rush and they pulled it off beautifully. It was very smart not going for a 30_ second clear. Ryo, on the other hand, was taking it too carefully. He didn't rush where he should have (between obstacles) and he didn't leave any time for the Wall Lift which is one obstacle he needs quite a bit of time for.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 27, 2012 14:40:02 GMT -5
The guessing game results will be interesting.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 27, 2012 15:15:27 GMT -5
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Post by Badalight on Dec 27, 2012 15:31:11 GMT -5
God! I'm so disappointed... What the hell happened? NEVER EVER in my worst nightmares would I have thought that Nagano might have a problem with the warped wall....!!! What happened there? It seemed like he gave up...? It wasn't his style! It was Yamada's style (though Yamada managed the first wall for the first time since...a long time)... Takeda had a Shingo-style fall I expected Nagano's victory or at least 3d Stage completed.... That was definitely a good show. Just from the way the marketing and advertisements went, the results were about what I expected; the only real shock was Nagano failing on the second wall. I am really confused by this... why is Nagano failing the wall surprising? In the past few tournaments when he's made it to the wall, he NEVER got it on his first try. He's also gone on record MANY times saying the first thing to go when you get old are the legs. Honestly, while heart broken, I was not surprised.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 27, 2012 15:48:45 GMT -5
I do have to say one thing about Rising... It really confirmed one MV that I need to make... Before I was kinda iffy on if I wanted to do it (Kinda had the idea before the full song was even out though), but 28 settles it, this MV needs to happen...
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Post by shiratori19 on Dec 27, 2012 16:46:01 GMT -5
Hey ! Yamada age of 47 did all he could ...simply legs do not work anymore. Great performance ! Actually better than many other.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 27, 2012 16:59:43 GMT -5
God! I'm so disappointed... What the hell happened? NEVER EVER in my worst nightmares would I have thought that Nagano might have a problem with the warped wall....!!! What happened there? It seemed like he gave up...? It wasn't his style! It was Yamada's style (though Yamada managed the first wall for the first time since...a long time)... Takeda had a Shingo-style fall I expected Nagano's victory or at least 3d Stage completed.... That was definitely a good show. Just from the way the marketing and advertisements went, the results were about what I expected; the only real shock was Nagano failing on the second wall. I am really confused by this... why is Nagano failing the wall surprising? In the past few tournaments when he's made it to the wall, he NEVER got it on his first try. He's also gone on record MANY times saying the first thing to go when you get old are the legs. Honestly, while heart broken, I was not surprised. He got it first try in 25 and 27.
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Post by davidko on Dec 27, 2012 17:05:57 GMT -5
The boy who tested 3st stage clear crazy cliffhanger
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 27, 2012 17:47:52 GMT -5
God! I'm so disappointed... What the hell happened? NEVER EVER in my worst nightmares would I have thought that Nagano might have a problem with the warped wall....!!! What happened there? It seemed like he gave up...? It wasn't his style! It was Yamada's style (though Yamada managed the first wall for the first time since...a long time)... Takeda had a Shingo-style fall I expected Nagano's victory or at least 3d Stage completed.... That was definitely a good show. Just from the way the marketing and advertisements went, the results were about what I expected; the only real shock was Nagano failing on the second wall. I am really confused by this... why is Nagano failing the wall surprising? In the past few tournaments when he's made it to the wall, he NEVER got it on his first try. He's also gone on record MANY times saying the first thing to go when you get old are the legs. Honestly, while heart broken, I was not surprised. Because the last time he had actual trouble with it was in Sasuke 23, and even in those attempts he got it on his second try up the wall... seeing him completely go out on the wall it's just... wow... really somber moment... Also in regards to my last post... this is clip is as close to a preview as you're getting... (Not a Sasuke spoiler, just don't want to spoil my comment) And that isn't even of the actual song, although it shouldn't be difficult to find
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Post by cole77000 on Dec 27, 2012 18:11:57 GMT -5
I really did not like Sasuke 28 at all. For me, one of the main appeals of the show are the obstacles themselves, and I'm pretty picky as far as that goes. My opinion on a tournament is HEAVILY dependent on the obstacles and how creative or well thought out they are, so this is mostly a review of the obstacles and what I liked and didn't like about them. As far as results go, I didn't mind that there were very few clears (there have been some GREAT shows in the past with similar results) but the thing that ruined it for me was the overall sloppiness and lack of creativity put into the obstacles in stages 1 and 2.
For me, a good obstacle fits several criteria: 1. It cannot be one that people are bored of already: shouldn't be one that has been brought back in one form too many times 2. It cannot cause stage redundancy (ex. Trampoline obstacle when there is already one in the same stage) 3. It cannot slow down the pace of the run 4. It cannot be too easy or serve very little purpose to testing athleticism 5. It cannot be too difficult for its placement in the course or for the course as a whole 6. It cannot be sloppily built/executed 7. It cannot be boring to watch as it is attempted I don't usually mind an obstacle that fails one of these 7 points but obstacles in this tournament failed a ton of these.
Stage 1's obstacles needed some serious improvement. 1. Steps. Fails point 1. The steps need to go. I didn't mind when they tried to change it up with the step slider or the rounded steps in sasuke 25, but bringing back the original with no changes was both unoriginal and uninteresting. They should think of something new for the steps or come up with a new, good first obstacle. 2. Rolling Escargot. Fails points 3 and 5. This was a cool idea originally but I'm tired of watching everybody fail it. It has always left a bad taste in my mouth because the skills needed to clear it are not necessarily clear: it is hard to pinpoint what exactly this obstacle tests. Does it test strength? Agility? Balance? For me it just seems like it tests your ability to do the Rolling Escargot and nothing else. This obstacle is too difficult for its placement, slows down the pace of the run, and for me is just too odd. 3. Spin Bridge. Fails point 5. This version of the spin bridge was much too difficult to be placed as the third obstacle. When watching competitors, I was really only excited about their run up until after they cleared this obstacle. The rest of the stage was not nearly as difficult as the first three obstacles. Maybe only a handful of people made it past the first three obstacles. I would have loved to see it as the second to last between the wall and the rope ladder. 4. Jump Hang. Fails points 3 and 6. I didn't mind too much that it slowed down the run too much (all net obstacles will) but, for a new obstacle, it was not particularly imaginative. It was just a combination of two obstacles we have seen in the past. The other thing I did not like was that having two nets was completely unnecessary, only the net on the right side was used at all. This is why I believe this obstacle was sloppily done. 5. Smaller Wall. Fails points 1, 2 and 4. This shorter wall was completely useless. It not was almost an exact copy of the original warped wall, but it was on the course right before it. This was completely unimaginative as well as boring: we needed to watch each competitor essentially do the same thing twice in a row. For a first stage with fewer obstacles than usual, there should not have been two of one obstacle. 6. Original Wall. If it wasn't for the smaller wall in front of it, this would have been fine. I would say it fails point 1 but it is a great obstacle that I hope stays until Sasuke's end. 7. Rope Ladder. Fails points 3, 4 and 7. I've never liked this obstacle, it is just a boring way to end stage 1. This has been addressed by many in the past so I won't go on any further.
Sasuke 28's stage 2 was my least favorite second stage in a very long time. 1. Cross slider. Fails points 4 and 7. It was a creative way to change up the stage 2 "drop in" but it was not really interesting to watch because the competitors were not really doing anything (just hanging there) and it did not seem like a difficult obstacle. 2. Salmon Ladder. Fails point 6 (mildly). I didn't mind this salmon ladder too much. I didn't like how it seemed possibly easier than its predecessor and how the first jump was on the same level across when the rest of the jumps were up and across. Just not very consistent. 3. Unstable bridge. Fails points 1, 4, 6, and 7. This needs to go. I can see why they would use it (they need some way of getting people off the salmon ladder) but it was really poorly done. Not only is the Unstable Bridge a rehashed obstacle, it was nuked. They need to figure out a new way to get people off the salmon ladder because this was very disappointing. 4. Spider Walk. Fails points 1,3,4, and 7. This, like the Unstable Bridge, was an unwelcome addition to the new stage 2. It is an old obstacle that is easy, slow, and nuked from a previous tournament. 5. Backstream. Fails point 6. I originally did not like this idea, but as I watched it in action I started to like it a bit more. I just think they could have done without the tunnel at the beginning of it, and the slide at the end. Those two sections served no purpose whatsoever. Other than that, I would be happy to see this return. 6. Passing Wall. Fails points 3, 4, and 6. Get the original walls back. Having the first two walls changed in that way was just... odd. The first thing I didn't like was that the first wall seemed much more difficult than the second, the second being that the second wall didn't slow down any of the three that cleared it at all, and the last thing is that they took a great obstacle and kinda wrecked it in my opinion. The original was a simple yet elegant concept that was a great difficulty level and this new version is just sloppy all around. The first wall was poorly built (even the transfer to it from the slide was sloppily done) and the second served no purpose at all.
I don't really have anything to say about the third stage. I thought they did a great job with the new third stage. My only minor complaint is that they have used the pipe slider too often already, but it is a great obstacle and I don't mind it being the last thing on the third stage.
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