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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 7, 2011 16:13:22 GMT -5
As we saw this tournament, competitor's numbers were scattered all over the place. We saw competitors with high potential but poor recent performances get early numbers, competitors with high potential but no notable results to speak of get higher numbers, #1 went to the competitor who had most to redeem for themselves, and the top competitors from the last competition got in the 90's.
My questions:
Who deserves the #1? Who will get low numbers who still have potential? Who will get #84? Who will be in the 90's?
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Post by SuperTiger on Dec 7, 2011 16:21:34 GMT -5
Does it really matter until we know if there will even be a 28? Either way, I don't ever feel like we can have a good feel for the numbers until we see the Navi. It's really just a guessing game (especially with the numbers you've provided) until we have some sort of context from the tournament.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 7, 2011 17:27:35 GMT -5
It was meant to be a time killer as we wait for news. It was supposed to be a guessing game! lol.
It's what we think SHOULD happen, except unlike the several obstacle speculation threads I thought this would be a fun little discussion about something different...
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 7, 2011 17:50:13 GMT -5
In my opinion, if there are high numbers for the best, it should be(based on performance and bias): 100: Yuuji (winner) 99: Ryo (first to reach Stage 4) 98: Hashimoto (first to beat UCH) 97: Takeda (because I can) 96: Nagano (keeps it interesting. He does well with 96, too) 95: David (his failure knocks him down a peg. Still does well.) 94: Shingo (he needs a high number again. ) 93: Ishikawa (good performance) 92: Li En Zhi (failure was a fluke, but it drops him down) 91: Okuyama (why not, I guess?) 90: Akiyama (I like Akiyama, problem?) 89: Yamada
-1: Either Tajima, Kanno again, or Kawahara. -84: A Trials Guy -Low numbers who have potential: Tajima/Kanno/Kawahara, Iketani, Kinnikun, Trials guys.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 7, 2011 18:29:44 GMT -5
Give Kanno number 1 again? Isn't that a little mean? He already proved he can handle that pressure, I think it's time to pass it off to somebody like Yamada who has something to prove. Maybe even Shingo. I like the idea of a shocking #1 who could either be a sacrifice or an epic clear.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2011 20:35:21 GMT -5
Unless it's a summer tournament, it probably would not be a good idea to give Akiyama a high number. He's night-blind, remember? He needs to go earlier in the day. Maybe give him number 1?
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Post by detroitlolcat on Dec 7, 2011 21:43:24 GMT -5
I think it's logical to do a lottery for 1-97 with 98, 99, 100 being the three champions.
Otherwise, I would put Akiyama at 1 (or 4 for winning Sasuke 4), Nagano at 98, Ryo at 99, and Yuuji at 100.
Wakky for #90! Yamada would get 70 or 80, Takeda would get an 80 or low 90 (for his absences), Shingo would get an 80. Hashimoto would get 97 for his UCH magic, David Campbell would get 96, and Okuyama would get 95 (6th last person for 6 straight Stage 2 clears!).
Li would go down a few spots for his "moment" in 27, probably to 89 or something (the ignominy of missing a 90!).
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Dec 8, 2011 9:55:26 GMT -5
Yuuji obtaining #100 is a given for being the first man to ever achieve kanzanseiha twice. Honestly, I believe Nagano will receive #99 again simply because he is the star of the show and proved last tournament he still has it in him. And if there is a 28, the course should be totally redesigned like 18 and we all know that Nagano is Mr. Adaptability. Ryo deserves to get #98 but I could see him getting a number lower than what he deserves. Now that we've got the top 3 spots out of the way, let's move onto the high to low 90's. Hashimoto, David, and Okuyama all deserve high numbers for their recent success in the last few tournaments and they shall be rewarded. I'm thinking Hashimoto #97, Campbell #96, and Okuyama #94. Although Takeda has been absent recently, I don't think TBS would give him anything lower than 92. But since the last time he actually failed the first Stage was Sasuke 22, I'll go with #95 for pur favorite firefighter. For the low 90's, it's anyone's game. Ishikawa #93, Wakky #92, Orosco #91, and Kasemir #90. As for the remaining competitors, I could see Levi or Sato Jun getting #1. Kanno and Shingo with high 80's. I believe Yamada should get no number and just roll on in whenever he feels like running so there's less pressure. Tajima can get #73 so he can maybe relive his best run in 23. Iketani and Akiyama I would like to see them run somewhere in the 30's. Finally any randoms like Sato Hiromuchi and Daisuke Miyazaki should be put somewhere in the 60's. Finally the #84 spot should go to Koungu as he has competed well with that number in the past.
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Post by yamfriend on Dec 8, 2011 18:34:51 GMT -5
I say that they do a lottery like in Sasuke 25 except with everyone. That would make things very interesting IMO. Also, unless he gets extremely unlucky, Yuuji wouldn't have to worry about the pressure of #100 (he'd probably still be pretty nervous due to very high expectations, but this would nevertheless alleviate much of it). Besides, as I've said multiple times in other threads, there would be a ton of unpredictability involved as well as continuous Stage 1 action with top competitors likely being scattered throughout the day. 25 and 27 demonstrated this well, and I greatly enjoyed them instead of having barely clears early on and then all of them at once (such as in 26).
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Post by thatoneuser on Dec 8, 2011 22:34:15 GMT -5
Of course, no part of the SASUKE 25 lottery was "random". Yes, I'm just supposed to believe that it was coincidence that 8 of the 11 clears' numbers ended in 0.
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Post by Philip on Dec 8, 2011 23:10:13 GMT -5
I think Lee will have a number in the early 80's (81?) Also, Yamada will be REALLY early I think, in the 20's.
#1- Shingo #84- STQer #90- Morimoto (He was the highest number to fail the furthest) #91- Ishikawa #92- Okuyama #93- Ryan #94- James #95- Paul #96- Nagano #97- David #98- Hashimoto #99- Ryo #100- Yuuji
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Post by yamfriend on Dec 8, 2011 23:39:03 GMT -5
Of course, no part of the SASUKE 25 lottery was "random". Yes, I'm just supposed to believe that it was coincidence that 8 of the 11 clears' numbers ended in 0. I actually noticed that quite a while ago since I'm big on Sasuke stats. Really though, how crazy would that be if Nagano and Yuuji went somewhere in the first half of the tournament (or anywhere besides the last few for that matter) while someone like Aoki would be #100? I would love to see how all of this would play out strategically and results-wise!
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Post by UnrealCanine on Dec 9, 2011 8:28:40 GMT -5
Of course, no part of the SASUKE 25 lottery was "random". Yes, I'm just supposed to believe that it was coincidence that 8 of the 11 clears' numbers ended in 0. If you end in a zero, you're going last out of a set of 10, so 80 is more desirable than 81
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Post by ansem120 on Dec 9, 2011 18:36:01 GMT -5
I would actually give the #1 slot to Takahashi, I think he fits the bill with his performance of late. Also, it might not be in their best interest to do this, but I could see a returning Brian Orosco as #1.
For my Top 11, it looks like this:
#100: Urushihara #99: Nagano #98: Matachi (I'm confident this is how it would shake out from here.) #97: Ishikawa (Remember how M9 freaked out when Sato passed the First Stage and gave him #98? Kinda like that.) #96: Hashimoto (UCH Clear. Yep.) #95: Wakky (Again, M9 was just waiting for this guy to do something. They gave 'em #97 when he was completely unproven, they won't mind giving him #95 here) #94: Campbell (They still love him) #93: Kasemir (I think Paul is legitimately the second best competitor to come out of ANW so far. And it seems like M9 likes him enough) #92: Takeda/Sato Hiromichi/Levi (Completely dependent on who's there. Ranked by priority) #91: Okuyama (I know this seems low, but to me, Okuyama was all but a non-factor in 27. Not much to say here) #90: En Zhi (Shocking failure last time, but you can't deny his accomplishments)
And finally, the notable "Lost in the shuffle" guys:
Iketani Naoki (#88) James McGrath (#85) Kanno Hitoshi (#83) Takahashi Kenji/Brian Orosco (#81) Yamada Katsumi (#80) Ryan Stratis (#78) Yamamoto Shingo (#75) Tajima Naoya (#73) (Bringing back the magic of SASUKE 24) Kazuma Asa (#72) Morikami Daisuke (#65) Nakayama Kinnikun (#47) Takahashi Kenji/Brian Orosco (#1)
EDIT: I just realized it probably won't be M9 doling out the numbers if there is a next time. Oh well.
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Post by gt4dom on Dec 10, 2011 6:55:33 GMT -5
It would be awesome if it was: #98: Harashima #99: Kuramochi #100: Aoki
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Post by blah123 on Dec 14, 2011 12:56:42 GMT -5
I believe Yamada should get no number and just roll on in whenever he feels like running so there's less pressure. LOL that would be epic. Don't even give him a number--just give 99 other numbers and he can go whenever. 1. Levi -- do his showboating to get the crowd amped up, and set the stage for the 'international feel' that I've come to love about Sasuke. 90. Shingo 91. Ishikawa 92. Paul Kasemir 93. Li 94. Okuyama 95. David 96. Hashimoto 97. Takeda 98. Ryo 99. Nagano 100. Yuuji
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 16, 2011 19:03:50 GMT -5
I actually don't think they'll give the number 1 to any established competitor(Koji in 12, Kanno in 27). I think the appeal of this sort of thing happening is the rarity of seeing it happen. Seeing it happen often may kill some of the appeal. I was shocked when I heard Kanno's music being played first and the clear added that extra oomph to it.
If they were to do the same thing as 27, then I like the idea of giving it to Takahashi.
Oh yeah, Shingo needs do be in the 90s again.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 16, 2011 19:28:18 GMT -5
Actually the only times #1 was given to any "established" competitor was competitions 20 and 27. When Koji got #1 he was just an anomaly. I don't think he had even competed before 12.
And yes, when I was watching 27 live and started hearing Kanno's music I figured I was just tired and hearing things, and then was horrified when it really was him. Normally #1 is doomed, and I really wanted him to do well again! Thankfully he cleared, which DID make to 10x more epic.
I would love to see Kongu do the same thing next time, but I would hate to see him lose because of it.
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Post by Philip on Dec 16, 2011 21:46:30 GMT -5
I think it would be pretty cool if Akiyama went #4, Nagano #17, and Urushihara either #24 or #27.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 16, 2011 22:48:14 GMT -5
I think it would be pretty cool if Akiyama went #4, Nagano #17, and Urushihara either #24 or #27. LOL they should give Yuuji 2 chances
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