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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 14:30:32 GMT -5
Very sad to see this...the Sasuke All-Stars are wonderful inspirations :-), and they inspired me to start training. Arsenette, you are right about the future of Sasuke. If it is going to be successful then we have to let go. The main reason I watch Sasuke is of course as you can tell by my username is kanzenseiha. Since the era of the All-Stars will be ending in Sasuke 28 the only thing I hope that is not ruined is kanzenseiha. The way kanzenseiha would be ruined is if it happens to often. Anyways, I hope the All-Stars do very well in Sasuke 28!
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Post by Philip on Oct 5, 2012 14:41:29 GMT -5
I understand their decision, but I highly doubt they will let go of the All Stars at the snap of a finger. They should at least have them try out.
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Post by Anshin on Oct 5, 2012 15:02:28 GMT -5
I get and understand the part of retiring the idea and titles of the All-Stars, but to prohibit their competition entirely in future competitions, even IF they qualified in the new system, is going a bit far.
Not sure if like.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 5, 2012 15:53:24 GMT -5
So it actually is they're not being allowed to compete anymore? This is kind of depressing actually, considering they're pretty much the faces of Sasuke, fan favorites and consistent competitors, to have them sent off like that kinda feels like ratings suicide, but with reformatting I guess I can understand why this is being done...
Not to mention how horrible it is to not have all 3 champions competing together, at least 2 of 3... Not to mention that come 29 if they really are banned from returning then there will be no one who has competed in every single tournament... and of course everyone has already mentioned how horrible Yamada is going to take it... :/
Although who I'm really worried about is Yuuji... I'm sure he's going to be a nervous wreck... He could barely handle the pressure in 25 and 26 and that was with previous champions going before him (granted seeing results of 26 had to have screwed him mentally too)... But now being not only #100, but being the face of the show and being the one EVERYONE puts their hopes on... I'm kinda worried for him, I hope he can overcome his mental barriers
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2012 16:00:13 GMT -5
If the understanding is correct (after all Inui used a translator).. Yuuji has to requalify in a couple weeks to get back to Sasuke. Only the All-stars are getting a pass because of the "graduation ceremony" they are going to undergo.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 5, 2012 16:17:32 GMT -5
I know, I'm talking about in the event he does make it, but that's also B.S. having to requalify, I thought ANW was bad but being the only 2 time champ in the history of the show and still having to qualify... :/
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2012 16:42:30 GMT -5
I don't like it either but I understand why they are doing it. Personally I prefer the higher % wildcards but it seems they are doing away with that. Dunno maybe someone can ask if they plan to do a Sasuke 11 trial type to be televised? I have been bugging him a lot
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Post by lhii789 on Oct 5, 2012 16:57:08 GMT -5
This may sound very minor, but I wonder how will retirement of All-Star is going to affect events like Maguro Festival? Is that mean there won't be SASUKE event anymore? Or are they going to invite competitors who's going to compete for 28 and beyond? I can see Nagano shows up by default, since he and his work (Takasui) has been participating in that event for a while. Maybe Nagano can be a host or judge or something.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 5, 2012 17:02:26 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the Maguro Festival isn't something put on by the normal crew by TBS, I think the All Stars would still be able to hold their own events like that.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 5, 2012 17:03:19 GMT -5
I don't like it either but I understand why they are doing it. Personally I prefer the higher % wildcards but it seems they are doing away with that. Dunno maybe someone can ask if they plan to do a Sasuke 11 trial type to be televised? I have been bugging him a lot Yeah, I can understand why they're doing it, trying to start the show again with a new beginning, but that doesn't make it any less of an unfair idea
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 17:08:59 GMT -5
I really hope that it's just the title pf "All-Stars" that they are retiring. Not allowing the All-Stars to compete would be a bad idea. The three who compete now, Shingo, Nagano, and Yamada, are the competitors most people think of when they think of Sasuke. Shingo holds the record for being the only person to compete in every tournament. Even though he's never won, he's always so friendly and cheerful, and the fans love him. I've never heard anyone say that they don't like Shingo. Nagano is one of the champions, probably the best known of the All-Stars, and certainly the best known of the champions. Yamada is a close second in terms of recognition, and he has done more for Sasuke than any of the other All-Stars. I could see possibly getting rid of the concept of "All-Stars," but to tell Shingo, Nagano and Yamada "you're retiring; we don't want you to compete anymore" would be a bad idea. After all these guys have done for Sasuke, this guy is ready to just throw them out?! Really?! That seems rather heartless. And besides that, it would really hurt the ratings if they got rid of the All-Stars themselves. I know that I won't watch Sasuke if the All-Stars are not allowed to compete. They're the main reason that I watch Sasuke! And I'm sure I'm not the only fan who feels that way!
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2012 17:09:41 GMT -5
This may sound very minor, but I wonder how will retirement of All-Star is going to affect events like Maguro Festival? Is that mean there won't be SASUKE event anymore? Or are they going to invite competitors who's going to compete for 28 and beyond? I can see Nagano shows up by default, since he and his work (Takasui) has been participating in that event for a while. Maybe Nagano can be a host or judge or something. When the dust settles I'll ask Takasui. It's crossed my mind as well. Agreed with Rider though, they have become famous in that regard even when they retire so to have them in an event like that wouldn't be an issue. Heck. Takeda did Maguro Festival this year when we knew he retired already. Still.. it's going to be interesting from this point forth.
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Post by yamfriend on Oct 5, 2012 17:18:27 GMT -5
Since 27 aired last year, I've had a growing feeling inside me that if Sasuke were to continue, the All-Stars wouldn't be as much of a staple as they had been in the past. The youngest of them are now in their late 30s, and it was only a matter of time until they faded out of contention entirely. So seeing this news doesn't surprise me too much, but it's crushing nonetheless. And although they won't be competing ever again after 28's "graduation ceremony", I really hope that we still see them occasionally referenced as part of the history of Sasuke and certain Sasuke-related events. Even if their end in competition abruptly ends now, I'm sure we'd all love to see them continuing on not only in other things involving the promotion of Sasuke but also successfully in their own personal lives. All 6 of them have had a great impact upon us over the years, but all good things must eventually come to an end. As for Sasuke otherwise, personally I am very concerned about the show going on much longer, even with 28's announcement. As it's been said before, it won't be the same without the All-Stars. Sure, the same can be said about Kane Kosugi's departure after Sasuke 8, but he was only one person and competed for about 4 years. The Sasuke All-Stars' departure will be much more significant since it's 6 people, and many of whom have competed for over a decade. They've essentially become the faces of Sasuke, and though there are a few other people known by many in relation to the competition, it will be a major adjustment for many fans to take in. Many of them may stop watching the show altogether without the All-Stars; in fact, I'm a bit apprehensive about continuing to watch it because of how different it's going to be (I'll still end up watching it though ). Hopefully many of the other consistently-competing people will continue being on Sasuke so we have some legacy of the first 27 tournaments being retained and living on into this vastly-different chapter in the Sasuke history (especially Kuramochi---I will very upset if he's gone ). Losing the All-Stars is bad enough, but this happening would suck bigger-time.
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Post by blah123 on Oct 5, 2012 18:06:32 GMT -5
This is sad, but it is no more sad than Takeda announcing his retirement. And honestly I think the future of Sasuke is very bright. I would love to see Yuuji and the like get the star power they deserve, or perhaps an even newer generation after Shin-Sedai. I also wonder how competitors who were sort of almost all stars (Okuyama, Kongo, etc.) will rise to the challenge, or if they'll join in the departure. Like any sport, great competitors come and go. All we can do is remember them and move on.
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Post by lhii789 on Oct 5, 2012 21:07:17 GMT -5
This may sound very minor, but I wonder how will retirement of All-Star is going to affect events like Maguro Festival? Is that mean there won't be SASUKE event anymore? Or are they going to invite competitors who's going to compete for 28 and beyond? I can see Nagano shows up by default, since he and his work (Takasui) has been participating in that event for a while. Maybe Nagano can be a host or judge or something. When the dust settles I'll ask Takasui. It's crossed my mind as well. Agreed with Rider though, they have become famous in that regard even when they retire so to have them in an event like that wouldn't be an issue. Heck. Takeda did Maguro Festival this year when we knew he retired already. Still.. it's going to be interesting from this point forth. Well if SASUKE All-Star is going to participate in future Maguro Festival even after the departure of the show, there's at least something you can write on your blog.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2012 21:35:10 GMT -5
When the dust settles I'll ask Takasui. It's crossed my mind as well. Agreed with Rider though, they have become famous in that regard even when they retire so to have them in an event like that wouldn't be an issue. Heck. Takeda did Maguro Festival this year when we knew he retired already. Still.. it's going to be interesting from this point forth. Well if SASUKE All-Star is going to participate in future Maguro Festival even after the departure of the show, there's at least something you can write on your blog. Yeah.. not sure what I'm going to do about that. I'm about 70/30 stopping after 28 is over.
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Post by Philip on Oct 5, 2012 21:47:13 GMT -5
Well if SASUKE All-Star is going to participate in future Maguro Festival even after the departure of the show, there's at least something you can write on your blog. Yeah.. not sure what I'm going to do about that. I'm about 70/30 stopping after 28 is over. Please don't... your blog is what introduced me to SMF. I've followed you & Ube's blogs well before I joined here.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2012 22:51:17 GMT -5
I still have 3 months to think about it. Might take a break after 28 (which honestly I usually do due to exhaustion LOL) before I make a final decision. Btw. I got an answer from Inui as to the status of the 6 All-stars competing. They are [ performance ] under negotiation in order to make all stars contest all the members If I interpret the Google disaster he wrote back correctly. Seems they are negotiating to get all 6 to compete again for Sasuke 28 one last time. They are not confirmed to be competing atm but it's their intent to let them compete one last time.
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Post by thebobmaster on Oct 6, 2012 0:21:35 GMT -5
I still have 3 months to think about it. Might take a break after 28 (which honestly I usually do due to exhaustion LOL) before I make a final decision. Btw. I got an answer from Inui as to the status of the 6 All-stars competing. They are [ performance ] under negotiation in order to make all stars contest all the members If I interpret the Google disaster he wrote back correctly. Seems they are negotiating to get all 6 to compete again for Sasuke 28 one last time. They are not confirmed to be competing atm but it's their intent to let them compete one last time. That's good news. It's a shame that the All-Stars are done after this, but at least they have one more hurrah before they are done.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 6, 2012 0:35:35 GMT -5
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