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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 23, 2012 13:53:06 GMT -5
You expect anything less from G4? lol
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Post by arsenette on Jul 23, 2012 21:22:06 GMT -5
Let's chalk another up for G4 if you wish. Drew Drechsel posted his Stage 1 run on YouTube. After a while YouTube blocked it because G4 claimed copyright infringement (they obviously have that right, to be fair), however, they failed to realize it was Drew himself who posted the video. They then took away the claim, but still. There's more than a few Ninja Warrior videos on YouTube, and the one video they decide to block ends up being the video posted by a competitor you consistently promote. That's a fail if I ever saw it. This happened to a lot of people.. not just Drew.
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Post by TCM on Jul 23, 2012 23:57:47 GMT -5
I would imagine, but Drew is the one I knew of since he's in my newsfeed.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Jul 24, 2012 18:37:52 GMT -5
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Post by thebobmaster on Jul 25, 2012 16:33:38 GMT -5
I'm a bit concerned with him saying that he wants to be known from the show, not just known as "the guy who fell, or the guy who only made it so far". That sounds less like running the course for the challenge, and more like running it for the glory.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 25, 2012 21:32:19 GMT -5
>returns to the to Oh god as an editor and quality checker for subtitles, this just pains me lol Holy s***! Nakamoto has a time machine!? What other scientific breakthroughs is he hiding!? Or maybe the article just had bad info and meant Ninja Warrior... I still think a time machine is more plausible
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Post by detroitlolcat on Jul 27, 2012 19:50:00 GMT -5
Hmm, I guess I'll post my opinion of ANW4 and how it was handled.
Props:
-Stage 2 being harder. Prior to SASUKE 27, Stage 2 wasn't nearly as intimidating as it was in the past since it was essentially the "get past the Salmon Ladder reasonably fast" stage. SASUKE 27 expanded on that by making the Metal Spin more difficult, and ANW4 expanded on that by making the Balance Tank more difficult, albeit not well designed.
-The harder Balance Tank. The Balance Tank in recent SASUKE competitions has become kind of a weak obstacle. The SASUKE 24-27 version of it retired three competitors in four tournaments, including a pathetic 0 for 16 in SASUKE 27. Making the Tank lighter was a good idea, as was lengthening the track. However, G4/NBC/Whoever made it went a little overboard on the lightness.
-The harder Third Stage. Modeling the ANW4 Stage 3 like SASUKE 25's was a great idea. In SASUKE 27 the non-UCH obstacles were a bit toned-down from SASUKE 26. The Roulette Cylinder, Doorknob Grasper, Floating Boards, and Spider Flip were welcome returns.
-The Flying Bar returning to the end of the stage. What a glorious obstacle serving as the bridge between Stage 3 and the Final Stage! It just looks like a great stage 3-ender, and having it in the beginning of stage 3 in SASUKE 27 made it feel a little out-of-place. Especially in favor of the rehashed Bar Glider!
-Inviting Makoto Nagano to ANW4 AND giving him a little airtime. It was cool to see him, and he is kind of the face of SASUKE. Maybe he could get a little more time on the screen next time, but it was still good.
-Brent Steffensen's Third Stage run. Those three obstacles before the Cliffhanger were no cakewalk.
Slops:
-Wildcard entries. Come on, G4/NBC/Whoever, the wild cards should go to the 10 people who got the closest, not the ten people who looked the coolest! Kelvin Antoine might have been cool, but did he really deserve the spot over Kamerion Wimbley? You know, Kamerion Wimbley, the person who would have made it if he was in any other region at any other time?
-Overly long competitor profiles. Ugh, those were just dreadful. Competitor profiles are great, don't get me wrong, but the ones at ANW4 were just too dang long. I felt like I was watching a documentary for half that show, not a sporting event! Keep them no longer than what's shown on G4's Ninja Warrior, or actual SASUKE. If you spend over FIVE HOURS on the First Stage, you should be able to fit every competitor in...
-Absence of Rolling Escargot. Ugh, that obstacle was cool! Actually, maybe it wasn't a bad thing that they left it out, since knowing G4/NBC/Whoever, they probably would have made it weigh 3 pounds and have it spin at 50 miles per hour!
-Controversies. On the arguably most important run of the night, don't have the clock malfunction and have everyone thinking "what the hell just happened?'.
-No Yuuji!
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Post by TCM on Jul 27, 2012 20:42:05 GMT -5
Hmm, I guess I'll post my opinion of ANW4 and how it was handled. Props: -Stage 2 being harder. Prior to SASUKE 27, Stage 2 wasn't nearly as intimidating as it was in the past since it was essentially the "get past the Salmon Ladder reasonably fast" stage. SASUKE 27 expanded on that by making the Metal Spin more difficult, and ANW4 expanded on that by making the Balance Tank more difficult, albeit not well designed. -The harder Balance Tank. The Balance Tank in recent SASUKE competitions has become kind of a weak obstacle. The SASUKE 24-27 version of it retired three competitors in four tournaments, including a pathetic 0 for 16 in SASUKE 27. Making the Tank lighter was a good idea, as was lengthening the track. However, G4/NBC/Whoever made it went a little overboard on the lightness. -The harder Third Stage. Modeling the ANW4 Stage 3 like SASUKE 25's was a great idea. In SASUKE 27 the non-UCH obstacles were a bit toned-down from SASUKE 26. The Roulette Cylinder, Doorknob Grasper, Floating Boards, and Spider Flip were welcome returns. -The Flying Bar returning to the end of the stage. What a glorious obstacle serving as the bridge between Stage 3 and the Final Stage! It just looks like a great stage 3-ender, and having it in the beginning of stage 3 in SASUKE 27 made it feel a little out-of-place. Especially in favor of the rehashed Bar Glider! -Inviting Makoto Nagano to ANW4 AND giving him a little airtime. It was cool to see him, and he is kind of the face of SASUKE. Maybe he could get a little more time on the screen next time, but it was still good. It's your opinion, and I realize that, but I have issues with most of these. As for the Balance Tank, I don't know how you give props to should a terribly built obstacle, ANW4's version at least. You mention a 100% clear rate in 27, but you fail to realize that in 4 tournaments, the 24-27 Balance Tank has taken out more people than the original version. You said it yourself, they went overboard on the (lack of) weight of the tank, which judging by the original version, was never meant to be that light to begin with. With Stage 2 in general, again, those weights added an unneeded difficulty. The Double Salmon Ladder in Japan proves if you create the notches in a certain way, you just need the bar. I can understand the weights on the smaller version in regionals, but why on the Vegas course? Just build it to the "exact specifications" like you so claimed, when we have a wikia that probably would have done a better job of creating the course with a lack of a ton of specs. I think it says something when a course that was 90 seconds in Japan becomes 105 in Vegas. I get that the Flying Bar may be a better obstacle than the Bar Glider, but the Bar Glider was built a certain way for a reason. You mention it was rehashed, look at the Sasuke 28 custom course thread. All entries there use rehashed obstacles for most of the course. I'd rather have a idea that's evolved even in the slightest way, than an unique idea that's next to impossible to build. Plus, the Flying Bar is just an evolved idea of the Jumping Bars. Same motion, almost the same technique, you just have one bar as opposed to multiple. I also like that Nagano was brought to Vegas, but from what we've heard, many didn't realize he was even coming over. He wasn't advertised to be there at all.
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Post by RedHerring on Jul 28, 2012 0:57:47 GMT -5
-Wildcard entries. Come on, G4/NBC/Whoever, the wild cards should go to the 10 people who got the closest, not the ten people who looked the coolest! Kelvin Antoine might have been cool, but did he really deserve the spot over Kamerion Wimbley? You know, Kamerion Wimbley, the person who would have made it if he was in any other region at any other time?Giving the wildcard spots to the 10 people that got the closest would defeat the purpose of the wildcard spots. If they were just going to give it to the next fastest times or the people that made it through most of the course, they could have just extended the cutoff limit of the number of people going to Vegas. The other problem with that is that all regions had different obstacles. Different obstacles = different times. It also means different difficulty. So competitors who made it through the course through one region would likely get a different time, or maybe even fail. In my opinion, they did a great job with the wildcards- with the exception of Patrick Cusic (Was he a wildcard? I don't know). If not for the wildcards, there would be no female competitors at Vegas. I'm really disappointed they didn't give Luci Romberg a wildcard though.
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Post by TCM on Jul 28, 2012 1:24:06 GMT -5
-Wildcard entries. Come on, G4/NBC/Whoever, the wild cards should go to the 10 people who got the closest, not the ten people who looked the coolest! Kelvin Antoine might have been cool, but did he really deserve the spot over Kamerion Wimbley? You know, Kamerion Wimbley, the person who would have made it if he was in any other region at any other time?Giving the wildcard spots to the 10 people that got the closest would defeat the purpose of the wildcard spots. If they were just going to give it to the next fastest times or the people that made it through most of the course, they could have just extended the cutoff limit of the number of people going to Vegas. The other problem with that is that all regions had different obstacles. Different obstacles = different times. It also means different difficulty. So competitors who made it through the course through one region would likely get a different time, or maybe even fail. In my opinion, they did a great job with the wildcards- with the exception of Patrick Cusic (Was he a wildcard? I don't know). If not for the wildcards, there would be no female competitors at Vegas. I'm really disappointed they didn't give Luci Romberg a wildcard though.Can't just assume things like that. Luci was offered, but refused because of a prior engagement. I'd imagine various others were offered and refused whether for professional or personal reasons. I'd agree with the top 10 non-qualified finishers getting the wild card spots, although, it's been nearly if not two years now, still hating on that how Cusic got his spot is just sad.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 28, 2012 2:51:23 GMT -5
I know the wildcard situation was a bit more controversial than I thought it would be. Personally I believe people forget that the Wildcards are 90% (okay exaggeration but really high) in Sasuke.. they get like 1-5 from trials and the rest are straight invites from previous comps (anyone passed 1st stage and the lifetime 3rd stagers), celebs, joke competitors, etc. etc. etc. So having ANW at literally 90% qualifying.... I don't see why the wildcards were such an issue. Personally I would half the number from qualifying to make that a lot more important, invite the vets back without qualies at all (because what's the point of being good in Sasuke if you are treated like a runt back home.. ) and invite celebs, etc. straight to Vegas. That will help with the atmosphere in ANW to feel more like Sasuke. Btw Luci was on vacation in Indonesia during ANW4 just saying As for editing of the show.. heck I think that needs it's own thread.. LOL
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Post by RedHerring on Jul 28, 2012 14:13:41 GMT -5
Ah, didn't know that bit about Luci. I didn't even think about something like that. That makes a lot of sense. As for Cusic, I'm still not sure. Did he get a wildcard spot? Or was someone just not able to make the show so they gave the spot to him because he was the next most qualified? Also, what do you mean by hating on how Cusic got his spot? You talking about ANW 2?
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Post by TCM on Jul 28, 2012 14:36:10 GMT -5
To my knowledge he was a wildcard. And yeah, people still give him crap about ANW2.
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Post by thebobmaster on Jul 28, 2012 20:12:15 GMT -5
To my knowledge he was a wildcard. And yeah, people still give him crap about ANW2. It's a shame, too, because if anything, ANW3 showed just how much heart he had towards running the course.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2012 20:27:25 GMT -5
A friend of mine says that he saw five floating boards during the introduction of stage three, and then only four were there. Not sure if this is true or not, but does anyone know?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 28, 2012 21:05:06 GMT -5
A friend of mine says that he saw five floating boards during the introduction of stage three, and then only four were there. Not sure if this is true or not, but does anyone know? Yes this is true in a sense, before going obstacle by obstacle for Stage 3, 5 boards were shown in an overhead shot (I assume this is either day one or earlier in the night before Brent was about to run), but by the time Angela was introducing the obstacles we were down to 4, this is how it remained when Brent ran
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 14:56:48 GMT -5
K, thanks!
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 29, 2012 19:50:06 GMT -5
No problem, when it's pointing out g4/nbc fails with the course I'm glad to help
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Post by kekerules on Jul 30, 2012 13:55:18 GMT -5
-The harder Third Stage. Modeling the ANW4 Stage 3 like SASUKE 25's was a great idea. In SASUKE 27 the non-UCH obstacles were a bit toned-down from SASUKE 26. The Roulette Cylinder, Doorknob Grasper, Floating Boards, and Spider Flip were welcome returns. -The Flying Bar returning to the end of the stage. What a glorious obstacle serving as the bridge between Stage 3 and the Final Stage! It just looks like a great stage 3-ender, and having it in the beginning of stage 3 in SASUKE 27 made it feel a little out-of-place. Especially in favor of the rehashed Bar Glider! Completely agree with that. Sasuke 27's 3rd stage was a massive step back in my opinion so it was nice to see some of those obstacles back. The 2nd stage was a bit of a joke. Though with the double salmon ladder...it has changed a lot between sasuke competitions and competitors have had to adapt so I won't hate on that one. But the rest :/ I also agree with cutting down on qualifying spaces, but inviting people who did well/veterans back and then inviting more celebrity/joke competitors to lighten the mood a bit. This isn't the olympics. The main issue with the show for me though isn't the course or controversial reruns...it's just the editing being so terrible. I can't imagine watching it with commercials as well. "Commercials...3 minute backstory...4 second run...commercials" etc. This needs to be fixed for next year more than anything.
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Post by Kowai Yume on Aug 1, 2012 16:30:46 GMT -5
it's just the editing being so terrible. I can't imagine watching it with commercials as well. "Commercials...3 minute backstory...4 second run...commercials" etc. This needs to be fixed for next year more than anything. Trust us, some of us hated the editing quality too. What the editors did was a major step back entertainment wise. I was considering doing my own edits for the broadcast with the obstacle guide graphics and shorter competior profiles, but then I realized it was out of my reach since the only editing software I have is Windows Movie Maker.
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