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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 18, 2011 18:35:53 GMT -5
...how would the results have been affected?
25's third stage
-Paul Kasemir- UCH (second to third transition) -Ryan Stratis- UCH (same as above) -James McGrath- UCH (third to fourth) -David Campbell- same as his 27 fail -Ryo- either Flying Bar or clears the stage -Ishikawa- Doorknob Grasp -Nagano- same as 27. -Hashimoto- either UCH or clears the stage -Okuyama- any of the obstacles after the UCH -Yuuji- clear
For 26's third stage, I think the results would have been the same as above except:
-Ishikawa fails the Roulette Cylinder -Ryan and James may have failed the Doorknob Grasper
Discuss.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 18, 2011 18:53:48 GMT -5
Even if people beat the 25 UCH, nobody would have gotten through the Swing Circle after that. for anyone who's practiced cliffhangers and tried to do jumping bars before, imagine that x10 in difficulty. If their arm strength to pull up doesn't give out, their ability to jump and grip will.
As for 26's Third Stage, we had a harder Roulette Cylinder and an easier UCH. Clearly the first obstacle combo is the killer here, so I'd imagine a couple more (James, Ryan) would fail like Brian did in 26, and with the even more turny doorknobs I'd bet a couple would fail there too. The UCH would swallow the rest except maybe an UNCLI, but I am almost certain not even Ryo or Yuuji could beat the remaining obstacles. Humans are humans.
Actual predictions?
25 -Paul Kasemir- Floating Boards -Ryan Stratis- Doorknob Grasper -James McGrath- Roulette Cylinder -David Campbell- Jump from small ledge to last ledge -Ryo- Swing Circle -Ishikawa- Ultimate Cliffhanger -Nagano- Transfer to Third Ledge -Hashimoto- UCH -Okuyama- UCH -Yuuji- Swing Circle
26 -Paul Kasemir- UCH -Ryan Stratis- Roulette Cylinder -James McGrath- Roulette Cylinder -David Campbell- Same as 27 -Ryo- UCH -Ishikawa- Doorknob Grasper -Nagano- Same as 27 -Hashimoto- Flying Bar -Okuyama- Swing Circle -Yuuji- Flying Bar
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Post by sdolnicek on Dec 19, 2011 11:24:17 GMT -5
It could be very interesting, but swing circle looks pretty imposibble to clear.
25 -Paul Kasemir- UCH 2nd to 3th ledge transition -Ryan Stratis- Doorknob Grasper -James McGrath- same as in 27 -David Campbell- UCH 5th ledge to 6th ledge -Ryo- UCH -Ishikawa- DKG or Floating board -Nagano- UCH -Hashimoto- Swing Circle -Okuyama- UCH last transition -Yuuji- Swing Circle or Flying bar
26 -Paul Kasemir- UCH -Ryan Stratis- DKG -James McGrath- same as 27 -David Campbell- maybe too -Ryo- Swing Circle -Ishikawa- Doorknob Grasper -Nagano- Same as 27 -Hashimoto- Flying Bar -Okuyama- Swing Circle -Yuuji- Swing circle
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Post by Philip on Dec 19, 2011 11:36:54 GMT -5
Sasuke 25: -Paul Kasemir- UCH (3rd to 4th) -Ryan Stratis- UCH (2nd to 3rd) -James McGrath- UCH (3rd to 4th) -David Campbell- same as his 27 fail -Ryo- Clear -Ishikawa- Floating Boards -Nagano- UCH (3rd to 4th) -Hashimoto- Clear -Okuyama- Flying Bar -Yuuji- Clear
Sasuke 26: -Paul Kasemir- Same as 27 -Ryan Stratis- Same as 27 -James McGrath- Same as 27 -David Campbell- Same as 27 -Ryo- Clear -Ishikawa- UCH (3rd to 4th) -Nagano- Same as 27 -Hashimoto- Clear -Okuyama- Flying Bar -Yuuji- Clear
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 19, 2011 14:36:51 GMT -5
Honestly if it was 26's stage 3 I can see results being the same as they were with the exception of Ishikawa failing the Doorknob Grasper instead of the Flying Bar
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Post by sdolnicek on Dec 19, 2011 15:23:45 GMT -5
I think so, but we could see a swing circle total elimination(im big fan of this obstacle though)
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 19, 2011 15:34:11 GMT -5
I think so, but we could see a swing circle total elimination(im big fan of this obstacle though) Honestly the swing circle seems easier than the jumping bars, hell, look at how effortless the Jumping Ring was for everyone, And that was farther apart (even at the furthest swing) and level, closer and going downwards isn't even a challenge, you can probably just reach for the rings (Assuming that's not a dq), had it been 26's stage 3, Kouji probably would have failed the Flying Bar, I just forgot to mention that in the last post
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Post by sdolnicek on Dec 19, 2011 15:39:54 GMT -5
Did you see the 26 th demonstration? Original Swing Circle from 25-26 has different mechanism. The rings moved freely in "rungs". 27th s Jumping rings were fixed to not move.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 19, 2011 16:44:28 GMT -5
Yes, I know that, but even then, when at the forwards peak of your swing you'd still be at the end, if anything I think the sliding would make it easier since you're getting even more momentum with less effort
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Post by blah123 on Dec 19, 2011 16:48:26 GMT -5
Still think Yuuji would own any cliffhanger. He has yet to fail one (or fail anything in the third stage for that matter).
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Post by Badalight on Dec 19, 2011 17:15:59 GMT -5
Yes, I know that, but even then, when at the forwards peak of your swing you'd still be at the end, if anything I think the sliding would make it easier since you're getting even more momentum with less effort The sliding throws off your rhythm, and the ring is probably harder to hold onto than a bar. The actual distance might not be as far, yeah, but the other factors I think make it slightly harder. Not a huge difference though.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Dec 19, 2011 19:14:28 GMT -5
27 Third Stage was a let down. We finally have the competitors we want make it that far, and then the designers just happened to come to the decisions "Okay, we have to have someone beat the UCH this time so let's make the preceding obstacles 5 times easier so we will get a clear this time."
The moment Kouji stepped up to the stage I knew the UCH would be beaten. and that took away the mystique of the obstacle, really the whole third stage.
James agreed with me on the interview. and I would have liked to see the invincible Yuuji take on a third stage that he was less likely to beat. Especially in 25.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 19, 2011 19:16:15 GMT -5
Rings are oh so harder to hold onto, let alone jump from and land on than bars. Your palms facing opposite directions from side to side... ow. If the Grinding Ring were a Grinding Triange with a straight bar at the bottom, Nagano would have cleared.
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