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Post by logomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 8:29:55 GMT -5
Admit it, it's one of the most shocking failiures in SASUKE history. He made it farther than any other person in both 25 and 26.
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Post by ansem120 on Nov 5, 2011 12:02:02 GMT -5
Personally, I'm not totally convinced Li would have beaten the UCH provided he reached that point.
I understand he ramped up his training immensely, but we've only ever seen him successfully complete a jump on any model of the Cliff Hanger once.
Overall, I think it's very possible Li would have failed the UCH similar to how Nagano failed. Getting a good jump, but ultimately failing the small ledge.
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Post by Philip on Nov 5, 2011 12:36:57 GMT -5
I understand he ramped up his training immensely, but we've only ever seen him successfully complete a jump on any model of the Cliff Hanger once. Same thing could have been said about Hashimoto before 27. I think he'd time up on the final stage.
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Post by ansem120 on Nov 5, 2011 13:13:38 GMT -5
I understand he ramped up his training immensely, but we've only ever seen him successfully complete a jump on any model of the Cliff Hanger once. Same thing could have been said about Hashimoto before 27. I think he'd time up on the final stage. Fair point, but I think we're looking at two different breeds here. The STQ'ers just seem to have abilities on the Cliff Hangers that can't be touched, UNCLI or otherwise. I will agree, however, that Li would make the Final Stage if he indeed cleared the UCH.
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Post by whothehellami on Nov 5, 2011 18:54:53 GMT -5
he would have raped the UHC
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Post by jfeathe on Nov 5, 2011 19:27:43 GMT -5
He probably would have reached the UCH which would have gone either way. I could see him failing like Nagano or David did.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Nov 6, 2011 7:11:52 GMT -5
He may have just pipped the UCH but not finish stage 3. Remember David had a replica and still couldn't beat it
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Post by SRW on Nov 6, 2011 8:12:14 GMT -5
Lee would have got to the Final stage and timed up, and for the record had Nagano passed the UCH then Kanzenseiha for him. I getting that in before the innevitable thread comes.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Nov 6, 2011 12:27:04 GMT -5
Li's endurance and grip is much better than David's, in my opinion, so I think he would have beaten the UCH if he had gotten there, however there are other obstacles before the UCH that he could have failed, such as the Spin Bridge.
I think he'd have failed the Bar Glider.
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Post by Badalight on Nov 6, 2011 14:12:23 GMT -5
I can't see Lee passing the UCH quite yet, though I think he would've gotten extremely close. If he passed that I could see him failing the bar glider.
I don't think he would've beaten the final either.
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Post by ansem120 on Nov 6, 2011 16:09:51 GMT -5
I don't think he would've beaten the final either. If I'm being honest, I'm actually skeptical if Li will ever be a true Kanzenseiha threat. I understand he has bulked up his training, but I think we as a community are starting to expect too much out of the man. He may be practicing his rope climbing skills, but when the source material is the sad attempt we saw in 24, he may have a long way to ever get to Nagano or Urushihara's level. Could he have beaten the UCH? I don't see why not. That being said, I don't think it was academic that he would have demolished the Final Stage as well.
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Post by whothehellami on Nov 6, 2011 18:32:39 GMT -5
Li is the real deal, he absolutely would have made it to and beat the UHC and continued to the 4th with ease.
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Post by ansem120 on Nov 6, 2011 20:58:27 GMT -5
Li is the real deal, he absolutely would have made it to and beat the UHC and continued to the 4th with ease. I'm not doubting that, I know Li is absolutely incredible. Hell, Li's my favorite SASUKE competitor not named Akira Omori. I want to see him defeat the entire course very badly. I'm just being realistic, I don't think he can beat the Final Stage right now as long as a form of rope climbing is in the mix. Also, I'm sure you've gotten this many times, but great job with SASUKE 27 James. Best of luck in ANW4 man.
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Post by dyer on Nov 6, 2011 21:25:08 GMT -5
somehow my gut feeling is that lee would have failed the flying bar
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Post by dudesky1000 on Nov 10, 2011 21:51:28 GMT -5
With that easy Third Stage? Are you kidding me? He would've definitely cleared it had he gotten there. NO question. I'd be more worried about the Metal Spin than the UCH for Li. He would've made the final, if not won with a fraction of a second left. You really think his rope climbing didn't improve? We're talking about a guy who built AN ENTIRE GYM to train for SASUKE and train others for SASUKE.
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Post by Badalight on Nov 10, 2011 22:52:24 GMT -5
With that easy Third Stage? Are you kidding me? He would've definitely cleared it had he gotten there. NO question. I'd be more worried about the Metal Spin than the UCH for Li. He would've made the final, if not won with a fraction of a second left. You really think his rope climbing didn't improve? We're talking about a guy who built AN ENTIRE GYM to train for SASUKE and train others for SASUKE. The chain seasaw is not an easy obstacle, it could be tricky and if he can fail something like the steps, he could definitely fail it. And we arn't sure how he'd fair on the pipe glider. That's if he could pass the UCH which I am skeptical about.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Nov 11, 2011 0:51:06 GMT -5
With that easy Third Stage? Are you kidding me? He would've definitely cleared it had he gotten there. NO question. I'd be more worried about the Metal Spin than the UCH for Li. He would've made the final, if not won with a fraction of a second left. You really think his rope climbing didn't improve? We're talking about a guy who built AN ENTIRE GYM to train for SASUKE and train others for SASUKE. The chain seasaw is not an easy obstacle, it could be tricky and if he can fail something like the steps, he could definitely fail it. And we arn't sure how he'd fair on the pipe glider. That's if he could pass the UCH which I am skeptical about. Not too sure about the connection between the steps and the Chain See Saw... two very different kinds of obstacles in my opinion. That's like saying if he could fail the step slider he could fail anything, which is true for anyone on any obstacle because this is SASUKE. He has a pipe slider in his gym. He would ace the bar glider. He has cliffhangers all over his gym. Call him the Taiwanese UNCLI.
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Post by Badalight on Nov 11, 2011 1:39:51 GMT -5
The chain seasaw is not an easy obstacle, it could be tricky and if he can fail something like the steps, he could definitely fail it. And we arn't sure how he'd fair on the pipe glider. That's if he could pass the UCH which I am skeptical about. Not too sure about the connection between the steps and the Chain See Saw... two very different kinds of obstacles in my opinion. That's like saying if he could fail the step slider he could fail anything, which is true for anyone on any obstacle because this is SASUKE. He has a pipe slider in his gym. He would ace the bar glider. He has cliffhangers all over his gym. Call him the Taiwanese UNCLI. Lee and David were pretty much on par in 26. Lee probably would've failed where David did.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Nov 11, 2011 7:03:04 GMT -5
He has cliffhangers all over his gym. Call him the Taiwanese UNCLI. David has a UCH in his backyard. End of story
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Post by dudesky1000 on Nov 11, 2011 7:13:04 GMT -5
He has cliffhangers all over his gym. Call him the Taiwanese UNCLI. David has a UCH in his backyard. End of story David also put on sticky spray which turned to slippery goop on his hands seconds before he mounted the real one this time. Then he couldn't hold onto the last ledge. He said that himself. I think if Li made it to the last ledge he would've known to just keep going and to not try to reach for the platform from there. That was a mental mistake.
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