ANW 4

[dudesky1000]

Oct 14, 2011 6:19:54 GMT -5 arsenette said:

Well that's the last time I'll come to the defense of competitors in the hopes of "gasp" sportsmanship and "gasp" equality for all. I should be labeled a damn heretic and beaten in the streets for even assuming that all rules should apply equally regardless of country of origin. When someone redefines earning a spot in Sasuke as "unsporting" and "un-Sasuke" it's time to step aside and walk away before my brain hemorrhages. Now I know why so many people don't post here anymore. I will never understand this generation with redefining terms.

Calm down. It's a TV show.

[TCM]

It's more the fact that G4, unknowingly or not, affected everyone else internationally once G4 started becoming so eager to be involved with Sasuke. It's not Sasuke as is that airs in 150 countries, it's Ninja Warrior. Taiwan is still the only country to even think about buying the full broadcasts and we all know how that's a dead horse at this point. Likewise, when G4 started sending people, Japan pretty much placed a lockdown; either your network/country pays up the cash or you're up a creek without a paddle .

Unless you have a decent amount of cash like I'm assuming Tim Shieff has, you aren't going to go to America just to get the chance to run on ANW, especially since to my knowledge no one's bought ANW (and why would they). Hell, loads of people here in the country of origin of ANW can't make it out to the course because they don't have the cash. It's not the US competitors' fault this has happened, but it's not like every country is having their own trials. The process shouldn't change because of one country, but if the ANW winners are fine with re-qualifying, they can. But I'd rather someone get an auto slot who I know will get far most of the time (doesn't help if I'm a fan of theirs too) than a random guy that if you blinked you missed his run.

Oct 14, 2011 14:42:06 GMT -5 dudesky1000 said:

Oct 14, 2011 6:19:54 GMT -5 arsenette said:

Well that's the last time I'll come to the defense of competitors in the hopes of "gasp" sportsmanship and "gasp" equality for all. I should be labeled a damn heretic and beaten in the streets for even assuming that all rules should apply equally regardless of country of origin. When someone redefines earning a spot in Sasuke as "unsporting" and "un-Sasuke" it's time to step aside and walk away before my brain hemorrhages. Now I know why so many people don't post here anymore. I will never understand this generation with redefining terms.

Calm down. It's a TV show.

Not to be mean, but I don't think she should take advice from someone who doesn't bother to know the rules about posting about said TV show as evidenced by the warning bar.

[whothehellami]

Aresenete I see your point but you have to remember is not just a spot on Sasuke, but a spot on Sasuke through ANW (a tournament style competition to find the ten best Americans) if M9 invites me back that's GREAT! but I wouldn't expect G4 to pay my way or to be eligible for any kind of prize, that would be a bit ridicules (btw I literally spent every last penny I had to get to CA so going to Japan would just not happen) . Anyway the ANW method works, if you look at the return competitors they were definitely the strongest of ANW2

So like I said before it just would not be fair to other competitors to just give those spots away in this kind of tournament competition. However I do understand where you who disagree with me are coming from. So this is what I think could make you happy and still keep the spirit of the competition; give the people how did well in Japan (pass Stage2) a bye to the semifinals in addition to the top 30

I think thats a cool idea but its all up to G4 and the sponsors anyway so ultimately we have no say lol

[whothehellami]

Oh and I spoke to the auction winner while I was there and paying his own way to Japan for a 3 day trip was over 35 hundred

[UnrealCanine]

As a better compromise, the top 3 from Japan sent an auto-invite, the other stage 2 competitors/passers get into the semis automatically

(and there's 35 spots for compromise)

[Badalight]

Oct 14, 2011 14:52:37 GMT -5 TCM said:

The process shouldn't change because of one country, but if the ANW winners are fine with re-qualifying, they can. But I'd rather someone get an auto slot who I know will get far most of the time (doesn't help if I'm a fan of theirs too) than a random guy that if you blinked you missed his run.

I agree but then again, that doesn't happen. We really did get pretty much the top 10 to go this time. All 10 who go are for the most part the best and they all are amazing athletes that have potential on the course.

Just look at Sasuke 27. 9/10 to stage 2, and Drew would've gotten there as-well, granted he survived the canonballs.

I prefer seeing new people go, though I also like some of the favorite to get more than once shot like David. But if we stopped getting new people than Ryan, James, and etc wouldn't have ever gotten a chance.

[KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles]

How about a guaranteed trip to Japan for the top performer in the most recent tournament, and another guaranteed trip for someone who has performed well historically, like Levi Meeuwenberg, Brian Orosco, or, highly unlikely, Kane Kosugi?

[dudesky1000]

Oct 14, 2011 14:52:37 GMT -5 TCM said:

Oct 14, 2011 14:42:06 GMT -5 dudesky1000 said:

Calm down. It's a TV show.

Not to be mean, but I don't think she should take advice from someone who doesn't bother to know the rules about posting about said TV show as evidenced by the warning bar.

Wow. Everyone here must really hate me. 50% of that warning came because of a thread that we all agreed should've been labeled spoilers, and the other 25% I have no idea because I did not technically spoil anything except "that guy who failed the Step Slider" which personally I have no idea how that gives anything away. Also, you really don't think Arsenette is going a little overboard here? Or do you just want to pick on me...?

It's not like I was giving advice on a date and I was a complete loser. Want my two cents? Clearly everyone should have to requalify through ANW. Arsenette is contradicting herself by saying that any American who passes the First Stage should be invited back, and not have to go through the ANW process again. Meanwhile, she also aches about how America and G4 seem to be quickly taking control of SASUKE. Well, what's going to happen if you re-invite every American who clears Stage One?

...You're going to have 20+ Americans back for SASUKE 28 and we will see not only an onslaught of clears (do we want 20+ clears every time?) but also America/G4 representing a HUGE fraction of the competition. What if 9 more clear from the ANW4? SASUKE 29 will have 30 Americans and 70 Japanese? People will stop watching this show and G4 WILL run away with it by the end of the day. I've never heard such contradiction.

Also, if vets like James are fine with it, what is there to argue about? I don't recall any of US having the experience of ANW or SASUKE, so what the heck do we know?

Respect people. I have it for you all, so stop badgering everything I say. I didn't come here to be attacked by people who have been on this forum longer than me every post I make.

[TCM]

Oct 14, 2011 17:40:08 GMT -5 Badalight said:

Oct 14, 2011 14:52:37 GMT -5 TCM said:

The process shouldn't change because of one country, but if the ANW winners are fine with re-qualifying, they can. But I'd rather someone get an auto slot who I know will get far most of the time (doesn't help if I'm a fan of theirs too) than a random guy that if you blinked you missed his run.

I agree but then again, that doesn't happen. We really did get pretty much the top 10 to go this time. All 10 who go are for the most part the best and they all are amazing athletes that have potential on the course.

Just look at Sasuke 27. 9/10 to stage 2, and Drew would've gotten there as-well, granted he survived the canonballs.

I prefer seeing new people go, though I also like some of the favorite to get more than once shot like David. But if we stopped getting new people than Ryan, James, and etc wouldn't have ever gotten a chance.

I get what you say and I agree, I guess for me it's ultimately a matter of G4 pretending like things are peachy keen one too many times for me.

@dudesky -- Many of those with warning bars as large as your generally aren't taken very seriously. Especially when you've said many things numerous people don't even comprehend and it's not because they fail at reading comprehension. I understand what she's saying so of course I won't see her posts as brash as others may feel. And G4 has clearly impacted international slots enough to curtail others not in America and it's foolish to assume that that many Americans will be in Sasuke at once. M9 will never go that far.

[dudesky1000]

Oct 14, 2011 19:27:41 GMT -5 TCM said:

Especially when you've said many things numerous people don't even comprehend and it's not because they fail at reading comprehension.

I really don't know what you mean by this. What happens in the chatroom is different. I try to make all of my posts as clear and meaningful as possible. I really just think you have it out for me.

And just because someone has a high warning bar means their posts make less sense? That's ridiculous. Next you're going to compare me to detective...