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Post by wolf4537 on Oct 3, 2011 14:36:30 GMT -5
What do you guys think? I kinda want to see something new to replace the balance tank or something else besides the slider drop at the beginning. However, it seems like most of the other obstacles did their job in terms of proving how tough some of them really were in this tournament.
So do you think they should change it at all for Sasuke 28?
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Post by UnrealCanine on Oct 3, 2011 14:43:19 GMT -5
Stage 2 has barely changed since Sasuke 23, yet 1 and 3 got complete overhauls. It needs a change
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Post by wolf4537 on Oct 3, 2011 14:46:26 GMT -5
Stage 2 has barely changed since Sasuke 23, yet 1 and 3 got complete overhauls. It needs a change Actually, it has changed a somewhat good amount since Sasuke 23, since the Unstable Bridge is now right after the Salmon Ladder, the Salmon ladder is now the DSL, the balance tank was brought back, and the slider drop was added.
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Post by jfeathe on Oct 3, 2011 14:46:47 GMT -5
The second stage usually eliminates half of the competitors. This time it took far more than its fair share.
I wouldn't change most of it, BUT:
1) Remove the God-forsaken Slider Drop. Exactly what skill is it supposed to test? I can assure you the people who cleared didn't do anything better than the people who failed. Nagano's bar was twisting like mad and he still made it.
2) Reduce the time limit by 5-10 seconds.
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Post by gt4dom on Oct 3, 2011 14:51:55 GMT -5
IMO, I think that there needs to be a new 1st obstacle, a completely new obstacle after unstable bridge involving lower body, and maybe an obstacle after metal spin, but apart from that, I do not have too many issues about it.
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Post by quasikoz on Oct 3, 2011 16:56:00 GMT -5
I agree about the need for a new first obstacle for Stage 2.
But it's going to be hard to shorten the time limit when the Double Salmon Ladder eats up so much time as it is.
Nothing will ever beat the perfection of Stage 2 from Sasukes 13-17, but if they ever want to get back to the speed aspect of Stage 2 the DSL has to go.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 3, 2011 19:29:17 GMT -5
1) Remove the God-forsaken Slider Drop. Exactly what skill is it supposed to test? I can assure you the people who cleared didn't do anything better than the people who failed. Nagano's bar was twisting like mad and he still made it. Like it or not but this tournament alone it did more damage than the Downhill Jump ever did and if you count Kanno's injury quit, it took out the same amount of people as the Chain Reaction did in less tournaments. Problem?
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Post by HarlequinKnight on Oct 3, 2011 19:37:03 GMT -5
I don't think the second stage needs a total redesign. Just some tweaks here and there. The time limit is almost perfect IMO, allowing for some impressive clears and some real close calls. Just change the Slider Drop and maybe the Balance Tank to something that will cause some more competitors to fall/waste time.
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Post by yamfriend on Oct 3, 2011 20:23:12 GMT -5
IMO they should make a slightly longer track for the Balance Tank and/or a thinner tank thingy to balance on. After all, IIRC 16 people reached it yet nobody failed it. Even Brent was able to recover from a major slip-up when he lost his balance. This would give Stage 2 a much bigger element of surprise considering how many people would try rushing through it due to the 90-second time limit (which I feel should also stay). The same can be said about the Unstable Bridge---30+ people attempted it in this era, and only 1 failed it. In all honesty, I think they should modify this obstacle in some way that it becomes trickier, yet doesn't become too much more drastic in difficulty or time consumption in the stage in general. Also, maybe they could more of sheep's obstacles. In fact in general it would be neat if fans like us could submit obstacle ideas and potentially have them incorporated into the course.
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Post by jfeathe on Oct 3, 2011 20:34:20 GMT -5
1) Remove the God-forsaken Slider Drop. Exactly what skill is it supposed to test? I can assure you the people who cleared didn't do anything better than the people who failed. Nagano's bar was twisting like mad and he still made it. Like it or not but this tournament alone it did more damage than the Downhill Jump ever did and if you count Kanno's injury quit, it took out the same amount of people as the Chain Reaction did in less tournaments. Problem? Yes. A HUGE one. People did not fail from lack of skill. How can you possibly guarantee that the bar will go straight down the track? What did any of the people who failed do visibly different from anyone else? Nagano's bar was shifting like crazy, but he somehow made it. It's also just plain dull and uncreative.
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Post by bigblind168 on Oct 3, 2011 22:08:30 GMT -5
I have an idea for the balance tank! We fly to Japan. Buy about 10 gallons with a gasoline, find it in storage and TOURCH THAT POS OBSTACLE. Thats my 1 beef with stage 2. I Can.Not.Stand. the balance tank. Loved it in 24, and when it replaced the gorren hammer, but its an obstacle that should be burned and never be brought back. The slider drop can go too i guess.
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Post by intelligentinfer on Oct 4, 2011 3:56:25 GMT -5
The second stage is the least favourite in 25 and 26 but did its job in 27. It did a great job and deserves a rest. The UB's prime time is over.
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Post by lars072 on Oct 4, 2011 7:53:15 GMT -5
Yes although I think overall it's quite a challenge. I would love to keep the Metal Spin obstacle - maybe a modified double MS or something. But yeah it's time to make a few changes.
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Post by YoDaUO on Oct 4, 2011 17:07:03 GMT -5
The Metal Spin really needs an update. Then maybe a slight change to the Salmon Ladder/Unstable Bridge and a new obstacle.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Oct 4, 2011 17:09:45 GMT -5
Why dont they have some kind of Spider-Walk/Slider Drop combination? Like you have to be in spider walk position while the walls slide down a track? That would be skill based and a cool way to start the stage.
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Post by detroitlolcat on Oct 8, 2011 11:48:34 GMT -5
I think a double-length Balance Tank would be a cool way to start the stage. Call it the "Balance Run" or something. Then the DSL+UB, then some really short new obstacle that tests lower body, then the MS and Wall Lift. 90-95 Seconds.
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Post by TCM on Oct 8, 2011 12:12:28 GMT -5
To the previous two replies:
And just how do you expect for that to be done in a safe, practical matter?
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Post by SasukeForever on Oct 8, 2011 18:31:38 GMT -5
might be the worst idea ever but... 1. rope glider?
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Post by TCM on Oct 8, 2011 18:51:34 GMT -5
Would be a bit of a danger issue, since it was during 18. Plus, Rope Glider is essentially the Downhill Jump without the board. Always thought it was funny a little bit that the first obstacle of Stage 1 and 2 for 18 were so similar.
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Post by detroitlolcat on Oct 8, 2011 22:13:18 GMT -5
To the previous two replies: And just how do you expect for that to be done in a safe, practical matter? The same way they have the Balance Tank now, just longer and at the beginning?
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