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Post by Pikmeir on Oct 5, 2011 17:09:12 GMT -5
I'd prefer they keep the final the way it is now - doable. The first 3 stages should clear out everyone they don't want to pass instead. Stage 1 should get rid of all the goofballs and non-athletes, but let the real athletes get through. Stage 2 should get rid of all the non-fit athletes, and Stage 3 digests everyone else. I'm happy with the way Stage 4 is.
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Post by cole77000 on Oct 7, 2011 2:04:08 GMT -5
I think it is tough to judge the difficulty of the final. It would have been very difficult for anyone other than Yuuji and Ryo. I liked the drop being back too.
My problem is that I felt like it was a huge anticlimax. After a hellish second and near impossible third stage all they come up with is a rope climb? They really, really needed to come up with something better than that.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 7, 2011 4:40:11 GMT -5
Well chances are they didn't expect a clear, hell, they were damn near unprepared in 22 and they had to spend a couple of hours figuring out a time limit they didn't even go with... This Final Stage while uncreative is technically the hardest final stage we've had, just the fact Yuuji is so great of a competitor it was barely a challenge for him. Don't fault the designers when in actuality they did a good job
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Post by sdolnicek on Oct 7, 2011 7:05:55 GMT -5
I think the final stage from 5-17 is still best and if theay use it again, it could be good. Rope climb is not bad, but 20m rope climb is boring a bit for Final stage.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 7, 2011 7:22:41 GMT -5
I liked it. Just happened to have strong competitors hit it at the same time. I know if it were people like Lee.. he wouldn't be that far up the rope.. The designers probably weren't expecting Yuuji who had been training for that damn rope for what.. 2 years? to be the one to make it again Would have been funny as hell if David got there as well.. he'd been training on a 80 footer
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Post by infimum on Oct 8, 2011 9:34:56 GMT -5
The final stage can't be more complicated. The more complicated, the more time. So if viewers are watching the third stage with no air time left, they know there won't be any total victors.
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Post by TCM on Oct 8, 2011 11:27:25 GMT -5
My biggest issue is people having issues with the producers "regressing" by bringing back an old obstacle or two every other tournament or so, yet more than a few people legit want a used up Final Stage to return. There's always been a rope climb in the Final, so that's why 27 would get a pass, plus it was taller, which made it more difficult.
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Post by ccisback94 on Oct 10, 2011 13:22:17 GMT -5
I think the final stage was pretty good. The rope climb has been always been an effective last stage obstacle. Sure it's not exactly new but it's still very intense watching finalists climb up. The difficulty is there; the fact is that Yuuji is an probably the best rope climber of the competition. I would suggest making the final stage two parts again and not just a rope climb. I think the time limit is okay, maybe 35 sec would have been better. People say it was too much but Ryo failed to do it and I'm sure many other top competitors would too.
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Post by dyer on Oct 10, 2011 16:51:32 GMT -5
it was a good idea to bring back the original final stage increased by 5 meters. For most people they say 40 seconds is too much but I would have to go with the logic here. For every 5 meters, the time limit would be increased by 10 seconds. so with the original 15 m final stage it was 30, this time they just added 5 more meters, making it 40 seconds.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 10, 2011 18:19:59 GMT -5
Just think of it this way guys, 1: Ryo is one of the best competitors there and he didn't win and 2: Even if it was 35 seconds, Yuuji would still have won. So the problems you guys have wouldn't make a difference, I think it was a perfectly fine final
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Post by SRW on Oct 12, 2011 4:12:01 GMT -5
Thats why I said the 40 second time made Yuujis win look less impressive than it really was winning with 35 as he would have would have looked even better the time did Yuuji a injustice.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Oct 12, 2011 7:01:17 GMT -5
Also had it been 35 seconds we would've had the closest final stage finish ever with just more than 1 second on the clock.
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Post by TCM on Oct 12, 2011 8:32:20 GMT -5
Does him an injustice when he would have won regardless? Now you know we've reached the "Throw crap at the wall and see if it sticks" stage.
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Post by ccisback94 on Oct 12, 2011 19:41:25 GMT -5
Well I guess I wouldn't say an injustice, but it would have made his final attempt more exciting. Although either way he was very impressive and fantastic throughout.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 12, 2011 20:06:13 GMT -5
Considering that so far people are trying to find fault with him winning again by coming up with excuses for it like "well it was easy".. or "time was too lenient".. In the G4 boards they were downright hostile about it. They don't like him simply because he's not an All-Star so therefore it's okay to hate him and nullify his win as another fluke.
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Post by dyer on Oct 12, 2011 20:15:40 GMT -5
what if it had been a 20 meter g rope climb instead of a 20 m tsuna nobori climb would he still have achieved kanzenseiha
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Post by TCM on Oct 12, 2011 20:46:01 GMT -5
We don't really know if the ropes actually had any difference to them, we've just assumed the rope had a bit of bungee pull to it; considering the combination was called Heavenly Ladder + G-Rope it's pretty self explanatory why it was named such.
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Post by jfeathe on Oct 12, 2011 21:15:54 GMT -5
If you watch the Sasuke 1-4 final stage runs, you'd see in an instant how impressive Yuuji's win was.
Some people died as early as the 5 meter mark; most were dead at the halfway point. Nearly all competitors who reached the 10 meter mark were simply hanging on at that point.
The 2 best competitors (other than Akiyama) such as Tanaka (a gymnast who certainly had climbed countless ropes) and Yamada (who was considered the best in that era) were still a couple meters short.
Yuuji climbed over 6 meters farther than they did in only 3 seconds more.
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Post by TCM on Oct 12, 2011 21:28:34 GMT -5
And even he started fatiguing a bit at the top, and still didn't slow down.
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Post by SRW on Oct 13, 2011 8:43:59 GMT -5
Nagano is still better *runs and holds shield*
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