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Post by SRW on Oct 3, 2011 17:49:23 GMT -5
In a way I kind of wish the final stage remained the same after 17 to me that was the PERFECT final stage for SASUKE and conquering it was such a amazing thing it could have stayed as that while the rest of the course changed and I think it wouldn't have hurt at all.
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Post by dyer on Oct 3, 2011 17:50:27 GMT -5
they should increase the height of the tower to 30 m....and bring in the never used final stage that was shown at the end of 17, and 24.
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Post by bigblind168 on Oct 3, 2011 18:01:04 GMT -5
they should increase the height of the tower to 30 m....and bring in the never used final stage that was shown at the end of 17, and 24. The thing is, I think it was figured out that physics wouldn't allow that to be possible. Or that it just would be TOO hard and/or impossible
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Post by blah123 on Oct 3, 2011 19:08:42 GMT -5
I loved it. The simplicity was very pleasing. Plus don't forget that rope climbing used to be an Olympic sport.
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Post by HarlequinKnight on Oct 3, 2011 19:42:30 GMT -5
I liked it simply because they brought the drop back. Found it a little hard to get excited when it was just a single rope the whole way and Yuuji was crushing it, but I enjoyed Ryo's attempt a lot. Unless they bring back the 5-17 stage and make it bigger/time limit shorter, then I think the rope will stay with a shorter time limit. I don't see what else they can do.
EDIT: Oh and I loved the starting platform, just that little square to start on. Little annoyed they didn't start sitting though.
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Post by stevensamypp on Oct 3, 2011 20:53:28 GMT -5
I feel like it was a homage to the first Sasuke. With declining ratings, perhaps bringing back some of that nostalgia with the final stage will make people remember why they loved Sasuke to begin with! Clearly, Yuuji is going to stomp any rope you put in front of him, so I wasn't surprised at all when he cleared the final stage. I would've liked something before the rope, hell, maybe bring in the Final Viking stage
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Post by intelligentinfer on Oct 4, 2011 3:58:16 GMT -5
Why did they stand? Guys like Levi can just jump and give themselves a 1m advantage at the very beginning. The course is good, but I HATE everything after the UCH.
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Post by watchingtv on Oct 4, 2011 12:27:36 GMT -5
I didn't really like it. Was too simple for my taste. They should add platformer ledges for the next season. Jumping around like a true fictional ninja instead of climbing everything.
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Post by baronbk on Oct 4, 2011 12:55:28 GMT -5
The final was way too easy. It was disappointing to see that they didn't leave it at 75 feet. They just wanted someone to win..
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Post by Badalight on Oct 4, 2011 14:40:28 GMT -5
The final was way too easy. It was disappointing to see that they didn't leave it at 75 feet. They just wanted someone to win.. I don't think so. They didn't expect anyone to win. It's a completely different situation than from in 24 when they had a car prepared for the winner This tournament their only goal was to have someone beat the UCH. They had zero idea the final stage would be reached, and they tried to put the time limit low enough to where they didn't think anyone would win. It's just that Yuuji is insane at rope climbing. He's practice it everyday since losing on the rope climb back in 21. They were totally caught off guard when he won.
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Post by jfeathe on Oct 4, 2011 15:21:57 GMT -5
I know it's hard to compare competitors from Sasuke 1-4 with the most recent competitors, but most competitors who made it to the 1-4 final starting slowing way down as early as 5 meters up. Even Yamada drasically slowed down at the 10 meter mark.
For Yuuji to maintain basically the same fast rate for 20 meters was phenominal.
Ryo was close, but he slowed down a ton. The main reason he made it as far as he did was because of his insane speed for the first half.
I honestly think they were expecting something similar to Nagano in Final Viking where he blasted through most of the final but completely died at the end.
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Post by baronbk on Oct 4, 2011 16:42:34 GMT -5
He's pretty good at climbing rope, but he's not insanely good. Less than two feet a second should be considered what a normal competitor can do, not a grand champion.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 4, 2011 16:47:39 GMT -5
He's pretty good at climbing rope, but he's not insanely good. Less than two feet a second should be considered what a normal competitor can do, not a grand champion. He is insanely good, all things considered. You have to take into account fatigue from 3 stages before, at the fact that it was almost 5 in the morning. Plus the fatigue that sets in as you're actually climbing.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Oct 4, 2011 16:50:41 GMT -5
I'm sure that Ryo and Yuuji passed 5 metres in 7 seconds, but by halfway, Ryo was already fatigued.
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Post by YoDaUO on Oct 4, 2011 17:31:03 GMT -5
It sucked. I was really disappointed in it. And they started standing up? I really expected something better.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 4, 2011 22:17:26 GMT -5
The final stage wasn't bad, technically speaking this may have been the most difficult BUT we had two of the strongest competitors making it there... Put them there and everything obstacle looks like a joke... Look what they did to the UCH people complained was too impossible...
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Oct 4, 2011 23:49:26 GMT -5
The Final Stage from 24 with no ladder, whoop-de-do
So basically, I win, right?
I thought it was a cool idea (even if it was a bit derivative) to bring the final stage back to its nostalgic roots. If there was any optimism about the new final, that was pretty much all out the window the moment I saw the timer.
This is supposed to be Ultimate Sasuke...
...and you give them 40 seconds?
You are telling me that you can't come up with anything harder than ropes for a final, when our last champion specializes in them?
Sure, it might be harder for most people that get that far, but you didn't plan ahead and now we have a winner three tournaments within the last one.
They really thought having another winner was the best outcome for the show, didn't they?
With all the other Kanzenseiha moments, Akiyama, Nagano, Yuuji, there was a similar type of mirth (or enthusiasm) when you realized we had found another winner. When you checked to see how much time was left on the clock and then a bit of emotion when they gave their final speech. That was way different this time for me, I felt like it was way too easy for Yuuji, it felt way too soon for us to have a new era beaten so quickly.
Granted, I would like to keep the name Ultimate (which implies best of all, or superior) but all new obstacles.
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Post by supersheep on Oct 5, 2011 0:04:06 GMT -5
Did no one ever consider that maybe Yuuji right now is just that much better than everyone else? No i'm not opening a debate on the greatest off all time etc. I'm simply saying right now today, he is that much better.
Think of Miyake in Kunoichi, she wins the 1st 3 times she enters, so they beef up the course, and to knock her out they had to keep all but 1 out of stage 3. Even her 3rd final stage which she barely passed, Tanaka barely even reached the pole.
Is this what we'd really want? Making the final so hard that Yuuji is close and no one else even makes it half way? Or kill off everyone early to prevent it?
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Post by mikessssssss on Oct 5, 2011 8:39:17 GMT -5
For someone of Yuuji's calibre, the final stage was too easy. Surely they can't have underestimated him.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 5, 2011 9:10:57 GMT -5
It was still harder than the last final stage... it's only slightly shorter, same time limit, and a rope climb the entire way up. MUCH harder than the old final stage.
The only thing is, Yuuji is insane at the rope climb. Don't blame the producers for that. They had no idea Yuuji was that insanely good.
I agree with Sheep. At this point people like Yuuji are just too much better than everyone else. However, he's good largely because he practices on replicas.
I think the prevent this, the difficulty could stay roughly the same, but they should switch out obstacles more often.
This element of surprise will surely knock a lot of people out and make it impossible for them to always be 100% prepared. It levels out the playing field IMO.
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