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Post by blah123 on Oct 3, 2011 18:27:53 GMT -5
Mad props to Yuuji, and all the other competitors. Seriously, this is one of the most epic tourneys ever. From unprecedented stage 1 success, Nagano's resurgence, the UCH pass, and Yuuji's total, utter domination. So many things to take from this one. I'm so happy for all!!!!!
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Post by arsenette on Oct 3, 2011 18:45:05 GMT -5
I know there's a bunch of people who won't ever like Yuuji.. including TBS.. LOL.. but I was so damn happy to see him win again. He's had ridiculous pressure on him and a lot of it so uncalled for. If it wasn't for that damn Yamada invention he wouldn't have to be straddled with "technical winner who stole the final".. now he has one that shut up people who hated him before.. even the "well it was too easy" final can't even be a good reason since he utterly destroyed it.. with sneakers! He's been working his a** off on the rope ever since his first final loss. That's dedication and training and YEARS of dedication just to be on the show. I have no idea why people think he's too new.. he's been associated with the show longer than some people have been.. takes guts to keep coming back after failures and be 2 time champion. I hope he gets the respect he deserves. I was truly happy for him.
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Post by lostinube on Oct 3, 2011 19:56:25 GMT -5
I don't think enough people know about Yuuji's history: he's been trying to get on the show since SASUKE 13. And that he is surrounded by a group of friends. Plus, that group is even more hard off than the All-Stars because they've barely been able to get on the show as it is, despite all their training. The STQers, UNCLI, Muscle Park Gundan: these are the people who have dedicate their lives to the show. Yuuji winning represents their hopes and dreams.
Unfortuntely, Yuuji does not have image TBS wants to market. He's a SASUKE Maniac (as opposed to a SASUKE Pro) which is a way of saying that he's a SASUKE Nerd. Look at him: he's gotten more muscular looking but Nagano's image of the hard-working in-good-shape fisherman screams regular guy as opposed to Yuuji's more white-collar job and look. As someone pointed out above: it's become harder to cheer for "randoms." That's the fault of TBS, Monster9 and the (possibly outdated) concept of the All-Stars. They elevated regular people into, well, stars and made them so much the focus of the show that when an actual regular person whom more people should be able to relate to at this point worms his way in, people look at him as an upstart not worthy of their respect.
I think TBS would LOVE someone like a Kanno or maybe Kouji Hashimoto to be their new face but it's Yuuji, a guy with a cross between Shingo and Takeda's attitude put in Bunpei's body.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 3, 2011 20:46:01 GMT -5
I think TBS would LOVE someone like a Kanno or maybe Kouji Hashimoto to be their new face but it's Yuuji, a guy with a cross between Shingo and Takeda's attitude put in Bunpei's body. Agreed .. especially that last line.. LOL But definitely agreed that it's totally TBS' fault for Yuuji literally coming out of nowhere.
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Post by richie137 on Oct 3, 2011 21:28:59 GMT -5
This was impressive on Yuuji and 2 time champ and he still might be on the prime, but 2 times on a difficult course, that is never easy, he is one of the greatest of all time maybe the greatest ever. Lets see if he goes for three or more he might become the Michael Jordan of Sasuke, this was a statement win and no footwear b.s. this was dominant by any stretch, Congrats to him! And everyone (all the competitors respected what he did.
PS: Did you saw the sky was it after midnight or later when this was over, it look like 2am and change there.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Oct 4, 2011 7:37:45 GMT -5
According to James it was 4:30
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Post by SRW on Oct 4, 2011 7:45:04 GMT -5
Yea it looked about 4 - 5 am to me.
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Post by lars072 on Oct 4, 2011 8:14:12 GMT -5
I don't think enough people know about Yuuji's history: he's been trying to get on the show since SASUKE 13. And that he is surrounded by a group of friends. Plus, that group is even more hard off than the All-Stars because they've barely been able to get on the show as it is, despite all their training. The STQers, UNCLI, Muscle Park Gundan: these are the people who have dedicate their lives to the show. Yuuji winning represents their hopes and dreams. Unfortuntely, Yuuji does not have image TBS wants to market. He's a SASUKE Maniac (as opposed to a SASUKE Pro) which is a way of saying that he's a SASUKE Nerd. Look at him: he's gotten more muscular looking but Nagano's image of the hard-working in-good-shape fisherman screams regular guy as opposed to Yuuji's more white-collar job and look. As someone pointed out above: it's become harder to cheer for "randoms." That's the fault of TBS, Monster9 and the (possibly outdated) concept of the All-Stars. They elevated regular people into, well, stars and made them so much the focus of the show that when an actual regular person whom more people should be able to relate to at this point worms his way in, people look at him as an upstart not worthy of their respect. I think TBS would LOVE someone like a Kanno or maybe Kouji Hashimoto to be their new face but it's Yuuji, a guy with a cross between Shingo and Takeda's attitude put in Bunpei's body. Well said ube! Agree 100%!
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Post by YoDaUO on Oct 4, 2011 17:11:19 GMT -5
I'm glad that Yuuji won, he certainly deserved it! And even though I thought the final was too easy, he still had 6.7 seconds left! And he took the 3d stage down nicely!
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Post by dudesky1000 on Oct 4, 2011 17:19:56 GMT -5
I mean let's consider this: it's no shocker that he passed the first stage this time.
The Second Stage however proved to be the most difficult ever, taking out wayyy more than it's usual ratio, and the Third Stage proved to be extremely difficult as well (taking out 8 incredible athletes). Even though the time limit in the final was pretty lenient, you have to take into account the pressure of being the first to win twice, the fact that it was nearly 5:00am, and the fact that in the end he was the one who was able to clear the three other stages, while other highly-esteemed competitors such as Nagano, Kouji, David and Okuyama couldn't. I'm guessing that the time between the third stage and Final had something to do with rain, but I guess we can't say that for sure.
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Post by richie137 on Oct 5, 2011 8:53:37 GMT -5
So basically since it was taped in July it was almost sunrise when it happened man that is an interesting scene plus it rained inbetween, interesting call and scene in addition sunrise in the summer was it about 5-6am when the sun rises there. Should it just do it on the rain like Sasuke 8, adds to the more drama, I do not think it will be fair but hey good call finishing it in dry conditions.
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Post by TCM on Oct 5, 2011 9:54:18 GMT -5
IIRC, Midoriyama only got sprinkles (and it only "rained" in Stage 1). 27 people cleared Stage 1 and 10 people cleared Stage 2 not to mention they had to prepare the Final + testers/demos. Early morning finish isn't surprising.
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Post by sasukefan on Oct 5, 2011 15:14:26 GMT -5
Unfortuntely, Yuuji does not have image TBS wants to market. He's a SASUKE Maniac (as opposed to a SASUKE Pro) which is a way of saying that he's a SASUKE Nerd. Look at him: he's gotten more muscular looking but Nagano's image of the hard-working in-good-shape fisherman screams regular guy as opposed to Yuuji's more white-collar job and look. As someone pointed out above: it's become harder to cheer for "randoms." That's the fault of TBS, Monster9 and the (possibly outdated) concept of the All-Stars. They elevated regular people into, well, stars and made them so much the focus of the show that when an actual regular person whom more people should be able to relate to at this point worms his way in, people look at him as an upstart not worthy of their respect. I hope you're not blaming Nagano for becoming a star of SASUKE, are you? He deserves the star status more that anyone in the show. But I'm wondering if it hadn't been more pressure that pleasure for him recently...
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Post by lostinube on Oct 5, 2011 15:38:52 GMT -5
Where did I say that? If anything, I'm blaming TBS/M9 for waiting too long to build up newer stars. They don't have to shift all the emphasis away from people like Nagano and Yamada but makers of the show have to realize that like in sports and other forms of entertainment, they can't hold on to their heroes forever.
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2011 15:39:06 GMT -5
Unfortuntely, Yuuji does not have image TBS wants to market. He's a SASUKE Maniac (as opposed to a SASUKE Pro) which is a way of saying that he's a SASUKE Nerd. Look at him: he's gotten more muscular looking but Nagano's image of the hard-working in-good-shape fisherman screams regular guy as opposed to Yuuji's more white-collar job and look. As someone pointed out above: it's become harder to cheer for "randoms." That's the fault of TBS, Monster9 and the (possibly outdated) concept of the All-Stars. They elevated regular people into, well, stars and made them so much the focus of the show that when an actual regular person whom more people should be able to relate to at this point worms his way in, people look at him as an upstart not worthy of their respect. I hope you're not blaming Nagano for becoming a star of SASUKE, are you? He deserves the star status more that anyone in the show. But I'm wondering if it hadn't been more pressure that pleasure for him recently... No I think you are missing his point about the outdated notion of the All-Stars. TBS has been ignoring promoting anyone BUT the All-stars. That has given undue pressure to them to carry the show entirely on their shoulders but also ignoring anyone else that has followed in their wake. Yuuji has had little to no respect since he started. He's not the image that they want so they have done almost everything to ignore him. He's been in TBS' radar for years now.. but if you watch the main broadcasts you think he literally came out of nowhere. That's TBS' fault and as a result many people who have been seeing him recently do well and "too quickly" make it look like the whole damn thing was a fluke. Yuuji has been at this just as long as Nagano.. that should give you an idea of the years of dedication. Even when Yuuji won TBS did NOTHING to promote him. No special on TV, not even putting him on commercials for 25, 26 or 27 as the current champion. No press releases .. nothing. It's been Nagano all the way. And while I LOVE Nagano and appreciate all the promotion that poor guy has done over the years and continues to do so.. it's pathetic of TBS to not evenly distribute respect to the current and now 2-time champion of their event. And that's Yuuji.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Oct 5, 2011 17:18:53 GMT -5
25. Hes the new champion. But he used tabi boots (like everyone else) so it doesn't really count
26. Nagano 2nd most likely to achieve KZSH. Yamada most likely (lol) Yuuji? 6th.
27. Sasuke 27, featuring USA, Malaysia, Nagano, Yamada, Ryo some others, and a brief mention of this Yuuji bloke
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2011 17:37:13 GMT -5
EXACTLY! LOL oooooooomg that pissed me off....
HOPEFULLY things will get better for him.. I Mean damn.. even people who hated him before are going "crap.. even though the final was easy he still did it in almost 7 seconds..".. C'mon TBS.. get with the program..
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Post by sasukefan on Oct 5, 2011 17:41:42 GMT -5
No I think you are missing his point about the outdated notion of the All-Stars. TBS has been ignoring promoting anyone BUT the All-stars. That has given undue pressure to them to carry the show entirely on their shoulders but also ignoring anyone else that has followed in their wake. Yuuji has had little to no respect since he started. He's not the image that they want so they have done almost everything to ignore him. He's been in TBS' radar for years now.. but if you watch the main broadcasts you think he literally came out of nowhere. That's TBS' fault and as a result many people who have been seeing him recently do well and "too quickly" make it look like the whole damn thing was a fluke. Yuuji has been at this just as long as Nagano.. that should give you an idea of the years of dedication. Even when Yuuji won TBS did NOTHING to promote him. No special on TV, not even putting him on commercials for 25, 26 or 27 as the current champion. No press releases .. nothing. It's been Nagano all the way. And while I LOVE Nagano and appreciate all the promotion that poor guy has done over the years and continues to do so.. it's pathetic of TBS to not evenly distribute respect to the current and now 2-time champion of their event. And that's Yuuji. I'm not denying the fact that Yuuji has been playing second-fiddle. It's been only recently that they updated their site with his photo as the third winner; and - as I had a glimpse of Navi in pictures at ramblingrican blog - he was standing in the second row. I agree it's not fair. I didn't see the previous tournaments but I did saw the Final of SASUKE 24, where after Yuuji's victory, he thanked to the All-Stars, making a low bow...like a subject in front of a king...I would bow in front of Nagano too but...well - it definitely created a distance between them. Maybe that's how it was meant to be done. Hierarchization might be the issue here. It's of a great value for Japanese. Btw, do you think All-Stars ignore New-stars? P.S. What is Yuuji's history of SASUKE? Where can I read about it (so that you don't have to repeat yourselves)...?
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Post by arsenette on Oct 5, 2011 17:49:28 GMT -5
The distance has more to do with generation than anything. To be fair though, none of them live near Yuuji and for YEARS Yuuji and the rest of UNCLI, Sasuke Park Stars and whatnot have been traveling to just about every event the All-Stars have put up. Everything from Maguro Festival, Bug in Miki, Gifu Prefecture Fundraising, and even some I didn't even know existed until after I started blogging. They have been always been following each other. All-Stars IMO have been the trailblazers while people like Yuuji and company have been trying to follow in their footsteps. I am sure if they lived closer (meaning the rest of the All-stars because Shingo has been pictured in some stuff with them before since he's in the area) they would be in a lot more functions together and even training together. Though.. this thread is about the TBS treatment of Yuuji and not how the All-stars are already friends with Yuuji. Generationwise TBS has it as the upstarts going up against the vets and while it was true for a while, the "upstarts" have surpassed the vets. TBS did well in the beginning with Sasuke Mania trying to drum up support for them but that show was only a local Kanto region and not everyone saw it. Much less anyone outside of Japan save those who followed our blogs. When Mania stopped it seemed TBS stopped caring either. They did the same mistake when Kane left. They wanted an image they can use and created the All-Stars because the one person they used for everything was gone. TBS has to realize that there are more people who are doing well in this tournament and despite them not liking this Yuuji fellow.. he's won the damn thing twice.
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Post by lostinube on Oct 5, 2011 19:35:46 GMT -5
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