What will happen if someone wins?

[dudesky1000]

I've been thinking about this for a long time, and although I'm very excited for Sasuke 27- I have one fear.

Someone will win.

...and SASUKE will be finished.

I think that if someone claims kanzenseiha so soon after a total renewal, especially in a rut of "low ratings", it could very well mean the end of the show. Is it because people will get tired of watching the same thing over and over again? Is it simply because there is no way to make the course harder (than obstacles like the UCH) without turning people away? Is it because an American or foreigner will win?

It could be for any one of these reasons, but in the end I think that if someone clears all 4 stages of SASUKE 27, or 28, or 29 for that matter, M9 and TBS will call it a day and close off a dying show while it ended on a good note.

Any theories?

[Deleted]

If someone wins, it devalues the kanzenseiha. Just like if they're more American dollars, it devalues the dollar.

The cool part about Sasuke was that winning was very rare. If there is a 4th winner, it would futher dismantle the rarity, something I feel is already tarnished by the 3rd win happening so soon after the 2nd win.

[m4tt3r0x]

I have had this fealing in the back of my mind for awhile now. I'm glad someone has brought it up. If someone would actually achieve total victory, this early in the era, I think it's safe to say Sasuke would be cancelled UNLESS the ratings were in the double digits (At a minimal)

Fortunetly, I highly doubt there will be someone who does achieve kanzenseiha due to 3 crucial factors. The Ultimate Cliff Hanger and the Flying Bar (The whole 3rd Stage really) is no cake walk, even for someone like Yuuji. You could have all the stamina in the world and STILL fail the stage. Secondly, you have to actually GET to the 3rd Stage before you can even pass it, and thanks to obstacles such as the snail and the DSL + UB combo, that is no easy feat either. Finally, we have no idea what the final stage even holds before our eyes. And we wont know untill someone gets there.

The only competitors as of right now who I can actually see complete the 1st three Stages are Yuuji, Lee, David, and posdibly Nagano. 2 of which are still having problems even getting to the 3rd Stage, and the other 2 I can STILL see having problems with the UCH. My bet on who will be the first to conquer the 3rd Stage is Hashimoto, mark my words.

Even with the grab bag of amazing athletes we will have competing at 27 onward, untill we know what the final stage contains, we can't be too sure of the future of Sasuke.

[TCM]

It's amazing when winning has become unfortunate.

[Ghan]

kanzenseiha being achieved a few tournaments removed from a total renewal does devalue kanzenseiha, but I don't think it's a bad thing for ratings. I don't think people are actively hoping each tournament that all 100 competitors will fail. Someone achieving total victory at this point can be thought of as a bonus.

That said, I seriously doubt anyone beats SASUKE for a while. I'm not totally convinced that it's even possible to beat the third stage + the final tower at the moment. Though I wouldn't mind seeing an American or two win, just to shake some of the forum members to their core.

[setg696]

I agree that at this point if someone did achieve kanzenseiha it would really degrade yuuji's kanzenseiha if someone else won at this point, and most likely very bad for sauske as a whole.

I believe however that it is getting to the point where the athletes have almost gotten as good as they can possibly get and it is almost impossible to make the coarse any more difficult without making it impossible to an insane degree.

[lostinube]

I'm always actively hoping that all 100 will fail the 1st Stage. That would be quite interesting.

We only have three to work with but:

A completion in SASUKE 4 led to the most significant period of ratings in SASUKE history. SASUKE 5 to 10 all got ratings of 19 or better.

A completion in SASUKE 17 led to a 2.8 jump for 18 and then things went back down for 19. My personal feeling is that in 18 people did too well to the detriment of the show and had the results of 19 been that of 18 it would have led to more interest.

A completion in SASUKE 24 was followed by a 4.2 ratings drop. This could be due to the rushed nature of SASUKE 25, which happened less than three months after 24. The other shows both came 5 months after the previous broadcast.

Using this admittedly small sample, it seems like the best thing for TBS to do after a course completion would be to have another show.

[YoDaUO]

Unfortunately, I think Sasuke will end after the next win

Unless the ratings magically go back in the 15+% range

[yamfriend]

At this point I'm just hoping that we get to see a 4th win before the end of the show, because even with ANW supposedly now being Sasuke's "#1 priority", it's ultimately probably not going to save it. In fact, if an American via ANW3 is last man standing, a lone finalist, and/or able to achieve Kanzenseiha in 27, I believe that many Japanese viewers and competitors will see the show as becoming too Americanized and that could hurt the show's ratings even more than it already is in Japan, thus leading to a (dare I say it) slow and gradual demise of Sasuke.

Back on topic (considering what I wrote above isn't much of a factor), I could unfortunately see TBS pulling the plug on Sasuke. As a matter of fact, whenever the 4th Kanzenseiha occurs, that'll probably be it for the show. But if it's bound to happen, they should at least try to extend it as long as possible by doing what they did in the 5-17 era---keep changing up the course with a few new obstacles each tournament as a way of throwing off competitors when they begin to adapt really well to the course (i.e. "mini-renewals" like 8--->9, 12--->13, Stage 2 from 6--->7, Stage 3 from 13--->14, etc.).

Either way, I'd rather just enjoy Sasuke while it's still around instead of worrying about its fate. It ends when it ends, but until then I'm gonna enjoy 27 and future tournaments as much as I can.

[ES-13]

Yamfriend, you took the words right out of my mouth.

As for the show, I have another thing to say, some people may not like the Shin Sedai, after all, the All-Stars have been around for so long, some people who have watched the show for so long may very well despise the Shin Sedai, just saying. However, if SASUKE stays for long enough, I think that the old-timers may enjoy their presence. Just saying.

[Badalight]

Well, I don't think we'll have to worry about a winner for at least a few more tournies. No one has even beaten the UCH yet. Even if they do, the rest of stage 3 isn't a cake-walk.

And I doubt someone will beat the final stage on their first try.

[ES-13]

I hope you're right, I want SASUKE around for at least ten more tournaments.

[TCM]

Aug 5, 2011 14:47:14 GMT -5 Badalight said:

Well, I don't think we'll have to worry about a winner for at least a few more tournies. No one has even beaten the UCH yet. Even if they do, the rest of stage 3 isn't a cake-walk.

And I doubt someone will beat the final stage on their first try.

I know what you mean, but the idea of a first try Final clear isn't impossible

[Badalight]

I'd settle for 3 1/2 more years. Just so I get at least 1 chance at trying out.

[SRW]

Akiyama already knew what the final stage was though TCM so he knew what to prepare for! It was a masterclass by him lol.

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Aug 5, 2011 14:14:44 GMT -5 yamfriend said:

At this point I'm just hoping that we get to see a 4th win before the end of the show, because even with ANW supposedly now being Sasuke's "#1 priority", it's ultimately probably not going to save it. In fact, if an American via ANW3 is last man standing, a lone finalist, and/or able to achieve Kanzenseiha in 27, I believe that many Japanese viewers and competitors will see the show as becoming too Americanized and that could hurt the show's ratings even more than it already is in Japan, thus leading to a (dare I say it) slow and gradual demise of Sasuke.

Back on topic (considering what I wrote above isn't much of a factor), I could unfortunately see TBS pulling the plug on Sasuke. As a matter of fact, whenever the 4th Kanzenseiha occurs, that'll probably be it for the show. But if it's bound to happen, they should at least try to extend it as long as possible by doing what they did in the 5-17 era---keep changing up the course with a few new obstacles each tournament as a way of throwing off competitors when they begin to adapt really well to the course (i.e. "mini-renewals" like 8--->9, 12--->13, Stage 2 from 6--->7, Stage 3 from 13--->14, etc.).

Either way, I'd rather just enjoy Sasuke while it's still around instead of worrying about its fate. It ends when it ends, but until then I'm gonna enjoy 27 and future tournaments as much as I can.

I agree completely. There's so much obstacle genres they haven't even touched on yet like balance. It annoys me that we only see an influx of new obstacles when someone wins, as opposed to before when we saw an influx just cause they wanted to.