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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jun 26, 2011 15:54:46 GMT -5
I think this section needs more discussion.
I really don't know, to be honest. If I had to give a straight answer, I'd say yes. I'm not sure why, though. Maybe he'll be like Shingo from 18-22 and just have bad luck. I seriously don't know.
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Post by Kowai Yume on Jun 26, 2011 16:00:42 GMT -5
Nagano is getting old, but he has a few good years left in him. Don't forget, he was the only person to make it to the final stage in VIKING. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 16:51:41 GMT -5
I don't think he's old at all. I think he just has a run of bad luck...
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jun 26, 2011 17:02:02 GMT -5
Age is not the cause, but his leg strength is.
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Post by yamfriend on Jun 26, 2011 17:15:21 GMT -5
Age is not the cause, but his leg strength is. I pretty much agree with scnoi. Just look at Okuyama for example. He's 40 now and hasn't failed Stage 1 (or Stage 2) since Sasuke 21. Granted he is the "Sasuke SPRINTER" so his leg strength is probably better than Nagano's, but regardless that's still more focused on the legs themselves than how old you are. I'm not saying there's no correlation between these two things, but age wouldn't cause it to deteriorate that quickly. Anyway, I said that Nagano wouldn't fail again. It's about time he clears again, and my gut instinct just tells me that 27 will be the tournament where he returns to glory on the course. If he can get past Stage 1, I could easily see him getting to at least the UCH and possibly even the "Flying Bar". The main thing standing in his way at the time being seems to be any obstacle with a trampoline or springboard; otherwise, he's very likely to do well IMO. |
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Post by Kowai Yume on Jun 26, 2011 17:20:34 GMT -5
Well, I guess age isn't a factor. He'll probably make a comeback.
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Post by thebobmaster on Jun 26, 2011 17:57:56 GMT -5
I doubt he'll fail again. I just can't see Nagano becoming another Yamada or Akiyama, having great success and near success, only to constantly fail in the first stage afterward.
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Post by RobbyMac on Jun 26, 2011 18:27:08 GMT -5
Not to be a troll but I have a bet I want to win. Nagano fails stage 1 again....
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Post by mikessssssss on Jun 26, 2011 18:52:47 GMT -5
I think he will fail stage one again; it could be more of a mental thing now.
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Post by ES-13 on Jun 26, 2011 19:50:39 GMT -5
It IS a mental thing, he made a mental mistake on the Slider Jump in 22 by grabbing the bar wrong. He went too fast on the Jumping Spider in 24, he was too weak on the Circle Slider in 25, and he was dizzy from the Rolling Escargot in 26 and failed the Jumping Spider.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 7:44:35 GMT -5
I don't think Nagano will fail the first stage again. I think he'll clear this time. Takeda not competing in Sasuke 26 really affected Nagano. I think his heart just wasn't in it last time.
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Post by SRW on Jun 27, 2011 9:27:10 GMT -5
Mark my words on this if Nagano beats stage 1 he will at LEAST go to the flying bar or the final. I'm dead serious!
As for will he pass stage 1 in this tournament......... YES I think he will clear the 1st stage in 27.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 11:44:36 GMT -5
Although I'd rather not PREDICT on weather he will pass the first stage, I know it is VERY POSSIBLE for Nagano too. There is nothing Nagano can't pass in 26's first stage. He just has to get used to the Rolling Escargot and the dizzy effect that goes along with it.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jun 27, 2011 16:10:58 GMT -5
Why are people saying the dizzyness affected Nagano in 26? Honestly, that is just making an excuse to why he failed. He's faced the Rolling Log many times and never failed because of the dizzyness, which would get you more dizzy than the Rolling Escargot.
He failed because he did not get enough distance into the Jumping Spider to hold on.
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Post by cole77000 on Jun 27, 2011 16:16:42 GMT -5
I think the only one really affected by the RE was Yuuji. I think Nagano just did not have the leg strength to pass the higher jumping spider.
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Post by ES-13 on Jun 27, 2011 16:30:13 GMT -5
Look, everyone, not just Nagano, was affected by the dizziness of the Rolling Escargot, of course, the return of the 19th version of the Jumping Spider didn't help one bit. Also, the Rolling Log was followed by a balance bridge of some sort from SASUKE 3-17, 25 was followed by the Jump Hang but all you have to do there is jump onto a net, everyone knows how the Jump Hang works, the Jumping Spider may no longer be new, but it's an unpredictable obstacle, even if SASUKE does last for a long time and the Jumping Spider stays on until the show gets canceled, the Jump Hang only got modified twice, the Jumping Spider has been changed three times and it may even be more.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jun 27, 2011 17:14:36 GMT -5
I don't think his age is a factor, he's still a very strong competitor, but it seems he hasn't been having as much stage 1 training recently, from what we've seen he's mostly been working on the upper body obstacles and also besides having to deal with his job he also loses some of his on shore training time because he has to help raise baby Kaiou (You'll note all the other good competitors with kids, those kids are older than a couple years old). I know with the right training he'll make a comeback but I think he's not been doing enough leg work recently. If he clears Stage 1 I think he has a good chance of making it to the UCH, not sure if he'll clear it though
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Post by bigblind168 on Jun 27, 2011 19:01:43 GMT -5
Detective, i'd hardly say the JS is an unpredictable obstacle.
It IS however, a pure skill and agilty obstacle, that you cannot muscle through.
However, I do think Nagano will pass stage 1 in 27 IF and only IF he's in the right state of mind. Because, really, it is all mental. We, and Nagano know he can complete the 1st stage, but I think Nagano is more of a headcase than we thought before, and it's coming out now...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 19:18:55 GMT -5
Why are people saying the dizzyness affected Nagano in 26? Honestly, that is just making an excuse to why he failed. He's faced the Rolling Log many times and never failed because of the dizzyness, which would get you more dizzy than the Rolling Escargot. He failed because he did not get enough distance into the Jumping Spider to hold on. Yeah my mind, for whatever reason, assumes that 3-4 rotations on the Rolling Escargot is more dizzy-ful than the 8 or whatever rotations on the Rolling Log... but that could be wrong. |
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Post by ES-13 on Jun 27, 2011 22:12:00 GMT -5
The Jumping Spider is unpredictable not because of its difficulty, but because of the number of times it was changed. If Nagano can beat the JS and we know for sure that he will beat the first six obstacles, great, however, before 26 showed Nagano's result, I thought that he had failed the Giant Swing.
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