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Post by yamfriend on Jun 12, 2011 18:39:08 GMT -5
This is starting to get discussed in the ANW3 thread, so I figure make a new thread to keep stuff on-topic.  My prediction for the starting positions for some competitors in 27 (considering these people are all there): #100: Urushihara Yuuji #99: Nagano Makoto #98: Okuyama Yoshiyuki #97: Li En Zhi #96: Takeda Toshihiro #95: David Campbell #94: Hashimoto Koji #93: Takahashi Kenji #92: Brian Orosco #91: Yamamoto Shingo #90: that Sasuke Malaysia qualifier guy #89: Kanno Hitoshi #88: Sato Hiromichi #87: Yamada Katsumi #86: Tajima Naoya #85: Levi Meeuwenberg #84: Sato Jun #83: Iketani Naoki #82: Brent Steffensen #81: Paul Kasemir #80: Travis Furlanic #79: Shiratori Bunpei #78: Ishikawa Terukazu #77: Miyazaki Daisuke #76: Akiyama Kazuhiko #(60s): Morikami Daisuke #(50s): Komiya Rie #(40s/50s/60s): new American qualifiers via ANW3 #(40s): Japanese qualifiers #(30s/40s): Kishimoto Shinya #(30s/40s): Aoki, Harashima, and Kuramochi However, with the top quarter of the numbers being filled mostly by people who have the potential of clearing at least Stage 1, it makes me want them to have the lottery from 25 back so there's nonstop action on the TBS broadcast. |
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Post by Badalight on Jun 12, 2011 18:47:28 GMT -5
Here is the question, which american is more deserving of a 90 spot?
David campbell, he got the furthest.
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Brian Orsoco, who not only got to stage 3 but he has pretty much become the face of america with Levi's recent absence.
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Post by yamfriend on Jun 12, 2011 19:04:46 GMT -5
Here is the question, which american is more deserving of a 90 spot? David campbell, he got the furthest. or Brian Orsoco, who not only got to stage 3 but he has pretty much become the face of america with Levi's recent absence. IMO they're both deserving of 90s, but like a lot of people have said on here TBS really seems to be more keen/see more potential in David. Don't get me wrong, Brian has shown that he's a great competitor in Stage 1 and even Stage 2 recently, but unless he trains his butt off for Stage 3 he's screwed, which is how I feel some of the other guys in the 80s and 90s (Yamamoto, both Satos, and Levi especially) fall as well. Besides, if Brian even gets past the RC+DG combo in 27, I can in no way see him clearing the UCH. David, on the other hand, made it all the way to the UCH in 26 with the least trouble of any competitor during that tournament. Clearly, David's more capable of getting past the UCH in 27 considering when ;D he gets there. Furthermore, this way only his second appearance, with the first one being a tournament in which he nearly cleared a Stage 1 that eliminated every All-Star earlier in the stage than him and that only 5 people made it farther than him. Either way you look at whether Brian or David deserves a higher number in 27, it's a matter of opinion depending on how you look at it as they're both great competitors with the capability of doing very well. |
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jun 12, 2011 19:15:37 GMT -5
Iketani's number definitely won't go down after his first stage clear. He'll probably get #90 since he's got that number 5 times before.
Here are my predictions (I think they'll go with the All Stars vs New Stars theme again):
#100 Urushihara
#99 Nagano
#98 Li
#97 Okuyama
#96 Hashimoto
#95 Takeda
#94 Kongu
#93 David Campbell
#92 NAOTO
#91 Yamamoto
#90 Iketani
#89 Sato
#88 Ishikawa
#87 Brian Orosco
#86 Brent Steffensen (they tend to group the Americans together)
#85 Morikami Daisuke
#84 Kanno (number usually reserved for a veteran, strong competitor who didn't clear last time or who has been away for awhile)
#83 Some new guy or returning competitor like Miyazaki
#82 SASUKE Malaysia Winner
#81 Tajima
#80 Mr. SASUKE
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Kasemir
71. Turlanic
Jun Sato
Akiyama
60s
Japanese qualifiers
40s/50s/60s
New Americans (usually in groups of 3)
40s
Aoki, Harashima, Kuramochi
#5-10
Torisawa
Shinya
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Jun 12, 2011 19:31:28 GMT -5
#100) Yuuji Urishihara (Grand Champion)
#99) Makoto Nagano (This is the last time I'm giving him #99 if he fails Stage 1 for the 4th time)
#98) Yoshiyuki Okuyama (Consistent Stage 3 contender, amazing potential)
#97) Lee Yen Zhi (Consistent Stage 3 contender -Not counting Sasuke 22 mishap on the MS)
#96) Koji Hashimoto (Young, in my opinion the next Nagano. Amazing potential)
#95) David Campbell (IMO Best American, Best shot at clearing the UCH IMO)
#94) Toshihiro Takeda (Most likely to advance to Stage 3, most consistent All-Star)
#93) Kenji Takahashi (Lower 90's # only because of RE fail in 26. Very consistent nonetheless)
#92) Brian Orosco (Best chance out of every one at clearing Stage 1, extremely consistent)
#91) Naoki Iketani (Good for ratings, shows potential for clearing the 1st Stage again)
#90) Shingo Yamamoto (All Star...funny all star...yeah haha)
#89) Sasuke Malaysia Qualifier (Number 1 competitor in Sasuke Malasyia)
#88) Hitoshi Kanno (Lacking lately, but has great potential)
#87) Hiromihi Sato (GTFO)
#86) Brent Steffenson (1st time - 3rd Stage, amazing potential)
#85) Paul Kasemir (1st time - 3rd Stage, amazing potential)
#84) Ishikawa Terukazu (Awesome hair)
#83) Katsumi Yamada (All Star - kthxbye)
#82) Daisuke Miyazaki (Has made it to the 3rd stage, ratings)
#81) Jun Sato (Great potential)
#80) Travis Furlanic (Great potential, ANW1, 2, 3 clearer)
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Post by yamfriend on Jun 12, 2011 19:44:47 GMT -5
Those look like a pretty good lists guys.  The only gripe that I have about the numbering position in general though is how basically, only the people who can even clear Stage 1 anymore are the people with higher numbers. The first half of Stage 1 is lucky to even have more than a few timeouts anymore (especially the past 3 tournaments IMO). Also, it honestly gets really repetitive when you have the main sequence of clears all chunked up at the end of Stage 1. It was pretty neat back in the 5-17 tourneys when even low numbers often made it far into Stage 1 (hell, single digits made it to the Warped Wall in a few of them, and IIRC the only thing we've had like that since then was Ryo Matachi as #6 in 25). I also loved how in the first 4 competitions ANY starting position could get past AT LEAST Stage 1 (specifically, it was pretty funny how Shingo reached the Final Stage in Sasuke 3 while wearing #13 ). Nowadays, most of these numbers rarely even past the first obstacle.  I know it wouldn't really be fair to the people who perform very well and therefore deserve high numbers, but (as I said in the first post of this thread) I wish they'd bring back 25's lottery thing regarding starting positions for every tournament 27 and onwards. Save Nagano and Yuuji (who would/should respectively get #99 and #100 at least for now IMO), I'd like to see everyone else get random numbers. It would add to both the unpredictability and action in Stage 1, which might even help boost the ratings. Besides, I'd like to see new numbers clear for once, as well as unusual results. After all, who wouldn't love to see some random numbers in the first half making it to the later stages and/or having people like Aoki disgracing a number in the 90s by failing the first obstacle? This is all clearly wishful thinking, but I'm just saying this would be pretty neat and kinda funny if it actually happened... ;D |
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Jun 12, 2011 20:11:04 GMT -5
I completely agree, yamfriend. I loved EVERY aspect of Sasuke 25 and is definately one of my favorite tournaments in the high numbers. The lottery was the perfect way for picking numbers, it not only added some flare to the tournament, but it kind of gave the competition a little sense of (I'm not promoting boot camp...) drama. DON'T KILL ME! If you were someone like, I don't know... Takeda, could imagine what you would be thinking receiving a number in the 20's. It could definately give that little sprince of spice that every show needs!
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jun 12, 2011 20:24:33 GMT -5
They could just make the numbers like they did in 22 when they had Muscle Musical members and All Stars with low numbers. Yea 24 and 26 have been second half heavy, thats more because of the number of celebrities in those two tournaments and the Rolling Escargot in 26 destroying everyone. 22 was pretty good as was 23 and hopefully 27 can be like 23 even with the heat.
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Post by cole77000 on Jun 12, 2011 20:29:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure if TBS is ready to commit to David quite yet. Unless David does as well as he did last time (which is very likely), I don't think they will hand David a higher spot than Brian. Brian is still doing consistently well and has been doing well for quite a while. I don't think they will change Mr. Amerika #1 quite yet. No doubt both will get a very high number though.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Jun 12, 2011 21:22:39 GMT -5
80. Malayisian Champion(no higher)
81. MTB guy
82. Time up guy
83. Shane
84. Travis
85. Sato J
86. Kanno
87. Paul
88. Mohawk Guy
89. Sato.H
90. Iketai
91. Brian
92. Brent
93. David
94. Kongu
95. Takeda
96. Hashimoto
97. L.E.C.
98. Okiyama
99. Nagano
100. Yuuji
Possible Final 11
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Post by Badalight on Jun 12, 2011 22:00:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure if TBS is ready to commit to David quite yet. Unless David does as well as he did last time (which is very likely), I don't think they will hand David a higher spot than Brian. Brian is still doing consistently well and has been doing well for quite a while. I don't think they will change Mr. Amerika #1 quite yet. No doubt both will get a very high number though. Uhm, did you watch the broadcast? They spent a LOT of time hyping up David. More than Brian anyway. |
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Post by cole77000 on Jun 12, 2011 22:11:35 GMT -5
^ Yeah I know. Its a toss-up really. Im not sure it TBS is going to bet that Davis is going to be as consistent as Brian (but I bet he will be). I'm leaning towards Brian because he is currently Amerika #1 but I would not be suprised at all if David gets that title and/or a higher spot.
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Post by ansem120 on Jun 12, 2011 22:50:54 GMT -5
I seem to be the only person who feels this way, but I fully believe every American who made it to the 3rd Stage in 26 will be in the 90s in 27.
#100: Urushihara
#99: Nagano
#98: Okuyama
#97: En Zhi (These 4 are no-brainers. 2 Champions and 2 Best from 26.)
#96: Orosco (Beyond En Zhi and Okuyama, the only dude to make the 3rd Stage in the last 2 tournaments.)
#95: Campbell (Incredible potential, and M9 knows that. David was the darling of the 26 broadcast by a long shot.)
#94: Hashimoto (Unfortunate fail in 26, but still great potential.)
#93: Steffensen (He may not be David, but still an amazing debut for Brent.)
#92: Takeda (He's Takeda, he will always be in the 90s.)
#91: Kasemir (3rd Stage in his debut, M9 has to like that.)
#90: Iketani (MM connection, 1st clear in forever, just sneaks into the 90 slot.)
#89: Takahashi (He has done great things recently, but had a bad fail in 26, and that will knock him down a little bit.)
#88: Ishikawa (Again, MM connection, and has passed the 1st Stage 2 times in a row now.)
#87: Sato Hiromichi (Even though people think Sato is surefire for the 90s, he was #81 in Sasuke 21, so it's not impossible.)
#86: Kanno (Same exact thing as Takahashi, Kanno's kinda losing a bit of his luster as of late.)
#85: Yamamoto (See Kanno and Takahashi, just not as good of results lately.)
#84: Furlanic (Good level of potential, but not really proven quite yet.)
#83: SASUKE Malaysia Qualifier (En Zhi got #92 in his debut, I don't see why this guy won't get a high number as well.)
#82: Tajima (Still heaps of potential, but is starting to decline fast. He needs to pass Stage 1 again if he wants to stay in the 80s-90s.)
#81: Miyazaki (Unfortunately, I think Miyazaki is going to get a little lost in the shuffle. The Rolling Escargot fail didn't help things either.)
#80: Yamada (They seem to like putting Yamada at either 80 or 90, so I'm going with 80 for 27.)
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Post by RobbyMac on Jun 13, 2011 1:45:34 GMT -5
No love for Akiyama?
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Post by UnrealCanine on Jun 13, 2011 6:28:16 GMT -5
Apart from the Champions theme in 25, Akiyama hasn't had a 'high' number for ages
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2011 8:01:27 GMT -5
^Akiyama gets lower numbers because he is night blind and they have to make sure that he competes during the day, when there is still enough light for him to see. If he's there he'll probably have a number in the 30s or 40s.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 13, 2011 9:20:30 GMT -5
Apart from the Champions theme in 25, Akiyama hasn't had a 'high' number for ages wtf are you guys talking about? his last tourney he was 98..  yeah it was for 25 but who knows if TBS will do the same? It was just he wasn't there in 26 that we don't know if he would have been given the same number. |
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jun 13, 2011 9:29:14 GMT -5
Yes, but besides that theme that they went with for 25 (all three champions as the last 3 with everyone else getting "random" number.
In 20, he was #1, special case.
In 22, he was #21, very low number, but Shingo also had a low number.
In 24, he was #62, while the other All-Stars were #80 and above.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 13, 2011 9:33:18 GMT -5
Things changed when Yuuji won though.. now he has special significance.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jun 13, 2011 10:39:25 GMT -5
Things changed when Yuuji won though.. now he has special significance. Not necessarily. SASUKE 25, by all accounts so far (numbers, Stage 1 obstacles, even the color of the mats), was a one off tournament and that in 27, SASUKE will follow the same story as it always had (ie numbers are assigned by TBS/M9 and Akiyama will get a lower number, maybe 71, to ensure he gets to run in the daylight). |
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The only gripe that I have about the numbering position in general though is how basically, only the people who can even clear Stage 1 anymore are the people with higher numbers. The first half of Stage 1 is lucky to even have more than a few timeouts anymore (especially the past 3 tournaments IMO). Also, it honestly gets really repetitive when you have the main sequence of clears all chunked up at the end of Stage 1. It was pretty neat back in the 5-17 tourneys when even low numbers often made it far into Stage 1 (hell, single digits made it to the Warped Wall in a few of them, and IIRC the only thing we've had like that since then was Ryo Matachi as #6 in 25). I also loved how in the first 4 competitions ANY starting position could get past AT LEAST Stage 1 (specifically, it was pretty funny how Shingo reached the Final Stage in Sasuke 3 while wearing #13 
yeah it was for 25 but who knows if TBS will do the same? It was just he wasn't there in 26 that we don't know if he would have been given the same number.