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Post by jfeathe on Feb 24, 2011 13:55:43 GMT -5
I honestly have to say the third stage. Just thinking of the list of competitors it eliminated is enough for me to make my decision.
It really feels like the kind of obstacle that can't be rushed into and requires mental preparation.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 24, 2011 13:58:26 GMT -5
While it is a tough obstacle like that third stage seems out of place since most of the challenge was trying to set up within the time limit.. But Stage 1 Obstacle 3 seems like a really bad spot for it.. I can completely see it replacing the Halfpipe Attack, Or maybe put in stage 2 replacing the Metal Spin but that seems far less likely...
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Post by ManuSamoa61 on Feb 24, 2011 13:58:28 GMT -5
2nd stage because it took out too many good competitors. 3rd stage wouldn't fit because those obstacles are usually slow.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Feb 24, 2011 14:15:17 GMT -5
Modified to be easier and staying in the First Stage.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Feb 24, 2011 14:44:12 GMT -5
First
People were just unprepared
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Post by Badalight on Feb 24, 2011 15:39:57 GMT -5
third stage? Just no.
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Post by cole77000 on Feb 24, 2011 15:50:49 GMT -5
I say second. It would be a great replacement for the balance tank or metal spin but it was way too unpredictable an obstacle for the third obstacle. It also should be modified in some way or made more consistent. Third stage would be really strange.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 16:20:09 GMT -5
FIRST STAGE ALL THE WAY! It will become like the Rolling Log, where compitiors will fly down it like it's nothing.
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Post by chackpop on Feb 24, 2011 18:30:49 GMT -5
I'd like it to be the 5th obstacle, just go away HPA...
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Post by YoDaUO on Feb 24, 2011 19:42:59 GMT -5
I think its fine the way it is right now. It wouldnt look right in the second stage and if you were to put it in the third stage it should be modified to be harder. Maybe smaller ledges and you have to move it yourself.. and then have it roll down a track and see if you still have the energy to hang on. Something like that. It can easily be made into a complete KILLER obstacle.
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Post by japantv1210 on Feb 24, 2011 19:46:38 GMT -5
I honestly think it's fine in the position it is right now. Sure, it's hard, but I'd rather see the competitors adjust to the harder obstacle than the obstacle be made easier for the competitors to beat. It kind of takes away from the achievement IMO. And Sasukepedia says the Rolling Log eliminated 41 people in its first tournament. That sounds pretty brutal too, but the obstacle became one of the icons of that era's first stage. And I feel the Rolling Escargot could be a great first stage icon as well.
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Post by jfeathe on Feb 24, 2011 23:10:35 GMT -5
Everyones posts got me thinking, but I'm sticking with my answer .
I know everyone's saying that people were just unprepared, but that wasn't unpreparedness, that was carnage.
I can't recall another obstacle that took out so many elite competitors so consistently. The Rolling Log took out a ton because a ton of (not very good) people reached it.
If Kenji, Yamamoto, or Kanno reached the third stage and that was the first obstacle, can you really say with confidence that they would clear it??
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Post by scnoi1217 on Feb 24, 2011 23:21:45 GMT -5
Everyones posts got me thinking, but I'm sticking with my answer . I know everyone's saying that people were just unprepared, but that wasn't unpreparedness, that was carnage. I can't recall another obstacle that took out so many elite competitors so consistently. The Rolling Log took out a ton because a ton of (not very good) people reached it. If Kenji, Yamamoto, or Kanno reached the third stage and that was the first obstacle, can you really say with confidence that they would clear it?? Flying Chute in 19 took out so many people that it probably is on par with the RE in 26. They didn't move it to any other stage and made it easier in 21. The same will probably happen with the RE.
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Post by Badalight on Feb 24, 2011 23:26:05 GMT -5
Everyones posts got me thinking, but I'm sticking with my answer . I know everyone's saying that people were just unprepared, but that wasn't unpreparedness, that was carnage. I can't recall another obstacle that took out so many elite competitors so consistently. The Rolling Log took out a ton because a ton of (not very good) people reached it. If Kenji, Yamamoto, or Kanno reached the third stage and that was the first obstacle, can you really say with confidence that they would clear it?? 1. It was a brand new obstacle 2. It took them by surprise 3. Almost everyone who failed made the same mistakes and had HORRIBLE technique. 4. It simply doesn't fit the theme of the third stage. Not only does it move by itself but it's not that tiring of an obstacle. Hard yes... but not very tiring and endurance draining. At least not to the same extent as the other stage 3 obstacles. 5. Other obstacles took out a lot of competitors in past tournaments. Jumping Spider in 19 anyone? And guess what... it stayed, but was made easier. Scnoi also mentioned the flying chute, great example. Stop over-rating this obstacle. It's hard because it takes a certain technique. No one could really figure it out for certain, and it had a bad aura that tournament. Even if a competitor might normally have beaten it, it's possible they failed on that particular day just because they were so stressed out about it. You need to lean your body weight forward, and exert a ton of force to keep your feet and hands in place. It's like the log grip. If you arn't prepared for the drops you will not hold on. For the RE you have to make sure to go full force on this thing or you'll get thrown off. It's simply a little trickier and harder to recover from.
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Post by Lennon on Feb 25, 2011 0:33:46 GMT -5
Gotta also remember that the Rolling Log did take out a lot of the elites of that time too.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Feb 25, 2011 1:59:22 GMT -5
We all deep down know that it's going to stay in the exact same place and in the exact same form... the RE is not going anywhere. Did the Doorknob Grasper go anywhere? No. Did the Roulette Cylinder go anywhere...? No. Did the Floating Boards go anywhere? Yes. And what do all of these obstacles BUT the Floating Boards have in common with the Rolling Escargot? They are all progressions of past obstacles. It is simply a harder, mutated version of the Rolling Maruta.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Feb 25, 2011 7:53:23 GMT -5
Everyones posts got me thinking, but I'm sticking with my answer . I know everyone's saying that people were just unprepared, but that wasn't unpreparedness, that was carnage. I can't recall another obstacle that took out so many elite competitors so consistently. The Rolling Log took out a ton because a ton of (not very good) people reached it. If Kenji, Yamamoto, or Kanno reached the third stage and that was the first obstacle, can you really say with confidence that they would clear it?? Rolling Log took out a third of the competitors in S11, it's 8th tournament Jump hang took out Nagano and Takeda in S10 It's just technique. If Mr Octopus had greater strength, he would have cleared it
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