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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 16:56:08 GMT -5
Post by jfeathe on Jan 5, 2011 16:56:08 GMT -5
I voted no; they saved the results from being a disaster in 26. In a perfect world, the previous American clearers would be invited by M9, with 10 new Americans.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 16:59:30 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2011 16:59:30 GMT -5
So now were going to have 15 Americans? Come on, 10 is ridiculous enough.
It's unfair that they have to re-qualify, sure, but if they happen to fail the 3rd obstacle, they can still re enter through G4 to get a chance to go back.
If a Japanese competitor fails the 3rd obstacle, he may never get to go back. I say it's a fair trade.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 17:02:48 GMT -5
Post by Straticus on Jan 5, 2011 17:02:48 GMT -5
Im sure they would get invites back from M9 but who is going to foot the bill for them to fly over / stay in Japan? If they want a free meal ticket back then they will have to go through the try outs again since G4 would pay for them to go. If they have their own means to go over then I say that would be awesome and they should get the invite. Should G4 bring them along I would hope it wouldn't cut into the 10. Also G4 may do like they did with Levi, Brian and Rich and send them back over in between ANWs when there is another Sasuke. That would be cool.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 17:37:43 GMT -5
Post by Badalight on Jan 5, 2011 17:37:43 GMT -5
What if they got a free spot in the semi's? So it's not an automatic trip but it's taking out a big portion of the competition.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 17:38:58 GMT -5
Post by TCM on Jan 5, 2011 17:38:58 GMT -5
I would make it a pattern to do it every 2-3 Sasukes (that is of course assuming there is a future in the show anymore) so as not to tire out our choices, and make a little cheaper for G4. It's one thing to have a slightly rotated list of 10 every year, it's another if you just bring the more successful ones for a bit and then bring back 10, at least to me. People only re-qualify in Japan is if they fail Stage 1, I can't recall anyone from recent memory to clear Stage 1 and have to re-qualify unless they had a prolonged absence. But I don't want any more than 10 Americans from G4.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 17:44:08 GMT -5
Post by thatoneuser on Jan 5, 2011 17:44:08 GMT -5
Assuming there is a SASUKE before the fall (which I truly doubt), TBS will probably invite those five back (possibly minus Travis since he failed the Second Stage) and they will have to re-qualify in ANW 3. Honestly I do feel at least David and Brent, VERY likely Brian and Paul, and likely Travis deserve a free shot at the course for their performance, even if it's not as a free pass through ANW 3.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 17:44:25 GMT -5
Post by RobbyMac on Jan 5, 2011 17:44:25 GMT -5
I voted Maybe. I mean hypothetically if they run the course at ANW3 and fail let's say the rope swing, do they deserve to go to Japan? No....
The argument against that is, they shouldn't have to run ANW3, but Levi and Brian had to do this once already, (and Levi couldn't even compete) and not just those 2, Travis and Shane have qualified twice. Both have proven to be good enough to beat stage 1...
It can go either way. But if I had to choose I'd say if these guys (David, Brent, Travis, Paul and Brian) want to go Japan and their biggest expense be their time, then they should run the course again. If they're as good as they proved..... they'll qualify again. Let's just hope there's no technicalities in boot-camp or on the course at ANW3 that causes them to not make it...
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 17:46:10 GMT -5
Post by TCM on Jan 5, 2011 17:46:10 GMT -5
Assuming there is a SASUKE before the fall (which I truly doubt), TBS will probably invite those five back (possibly minus Travis since he failed the Second Stage) and they will have to re-qualify in ANW 3. Honestly I do feel at least David and Brent, VERY likely Brian and Paul, and likely Travis deserve a free shot at the course for their performance, even if it's not as a free pass through ANW 3. Anyone who gets past Stage 1 gets an auto-invite. Rich failed the Unstable Bridge and came back for 25. Travis will get an auto-invite.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 18:16:48 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 5, 2011 18:16:48 GMT -5
For 27 they should send the 5 who cleared stage one and save ANW3 for Sasuke 28 (assuming everything goes right with Sasuke's survival...) and also let Levi compete since he should still have a standing invite for 25 (Levi, Brian and Richard cleared in 23, didn't go to 24, and were at 25.. so it should count here too...)
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 18:20:53 GMT -5
Post by thatoneuser on Jan 5, 2011 18:20:53 GMT -5
I would imagine that Levi would go with the five to 27 if it isn't an ANW tournament. Technically he DID qualify for 26 but couldn't compete due to injury. (Old news is old.) In that sense it's not like he chose not to go or couldn't go because of work or something along those lines, so I would assume he would go with Team USA.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 18:25:46 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 5, 2011 18:25:46 GMT -5
.............That's exactly what I just said.....
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 18:25:53 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Jan 5, 2011 18:25:53 GMT -5
I think everyone should have to prove themselves each time. Americans get few spots and it would be damn near impossible for new talent to emerge if we just sent Levi, Brian, Rich, David and Travis every time.
Seems like the most fair way to do things.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 18:37:16 GMT -5
Post by YoDaUO on Jan 5, 2011 18:37:16 GMT -5
For 27 they should send the 5 who cleared stage one and save ANW3 for Sasuke 28 (assuming everything goes right with Sasuke's survival...) and also let Levi compete since he should still have a standing invite for 25 (Levi, Brian and Richard cleared in 23, didn't go to 24, and were at 25.. so it should count here too...) I agree with that.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 20:00:57 GMT -5
Post by quasikoz on Jan 5, 2011 20:00:57 GMT -5
I think everyone should have to prove themselves each time. Americans get few spots and it would be damn near impossible for new talent to emerge if we just sent Levi, Brian, Rich, David and Travis every time. Seems like the most fair way to do things. I agree with Oti, primarily because we get a maximum of 10 spots in a Sasuke. If there were more spots, then I wouldn't mind automatic invites because in a perfect world they deserve/earned them.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 20:27:51 GMT -5
Post by jfeathe on Jan 5, 2011 20:27:51 GMT -5
I think everyone should have to prove themselves each time. Americans get few spots and it would be damn near impossible for new talent to emerge if we just sent Levi, Brian, Rich, David and Travis every time. Seems like the most fair way to do things. I agree with Oti, primarily because we get a maximum of 10 spots in a Sasuke. If there were more spots, then I wouldn't mind automatic invites because in a perfect world they deserve/earned them. This is where the dillemma arises. Not only should new talent get a fair chance, but people who have proven themselves should get to go back automatically. Perhaps letting the top 3 get an automatic trip plus 7 open spots would be a good compromise. In that case, David, Brent, and Paul would go back automatically while everyone else starts from square 1.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 20:36:48 GMT -5
Post by quasikoz on Jan 5, 2011 20:36:48 GMT -5
I agree with Oti, primarily because we get a maximum of 10 spots in a Sasuke. If there were more spots, then I wouldn't mind automatic invites because in a perfect world they deserve/earned them. This is where the dillemma arises. Not only should new talent get a fair chance, but people who have proven themselves should get to go back automatically. Perhaps letting the top 3 get an automatic trip plus 7 open spots would be a good compromise. In that case, David, Brent, and Paul would go back automatically while everyone else starts from square 1. I think that's a perfect compromise. It might not be the rules of Sasuke, but at least there's a way to reward exceptional results this way.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 21:53:46 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2011 21:53:46 GMT -5
Again...
You guys forget the advantage American's have as well.
If a Japanese guy fails the 3rd obstacle, he won't come back.
If an American guy fails the 3rd obstacle, he always has another shot of returning.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 22:31:19 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Jan 5, 2011 22:31:19 GMT -5
How d'ya figure, JP? What's stopping a Japanese guy from reapplying and/or entering the next Japanese trials?
I like jfeathe's idea. The top three people can go back automatically, the others have to prove themselves again. Deep down I want everyone to face the trials each time, but if there has to be a compromise, this is good.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 22:35:23 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2011 22:35:23 GMT -5
How d'ya figure, JP? What's stopping a Japanese guy from reapplying and/or entering the next Japanese trials? Because it's not guaranteed.
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ANW 3
Jan 5, 2011 22:45:14 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Jan 5, 2011 22:45:14 GMT -5
And a spot in ANW is..? As I recall, they turned down quite a few people that second day.
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