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Jan 2, 2011 17:32:02 GMT -5
Post by xig28 on Jan 2, 2011 17:32:02 GMT -5
sad nagano wasnt able to pass...but i think he'll get back on his A game next time.
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Nagano
Jan 2, 2011 18:41:15 GMT -5
Post by RobbyMac on Jan 2, 2011 18:41:15 GMT -5
They always zoom in on his nervous looking face right before his obstacle fails.... He is not done. It's all in his head, not physical.
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Nagano
Jan 2, 2011 18:43:30 GMT -5
Post by yamfriend on Jan 2, 2011 18:43:30 GMT -5
I doubt he's done, but I'm not sure. His age isn't much of a factor yet IMO (Okuyama made it to the UCH at 40 for crying out loud!) nor his family relationship (still has plenty of time to train for Sasuke), but if I had to pinpoint one specific thing, I'd say pressure. He has such high expectations, and in 26 he knew how tough Stage 1 was this time around (plus he probably felt he had to avenge his 2 previous Stage 1 failures AND the name of the All-Stars as the last one in the group standing). Point blank, Nagano is still more than physically capable to get very far into the course. As long as he doesn't let his nerves get the best of him, he can do it---though this may be tougher for him to do than we think.
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Nagano
Jan 3, 2011 2:02:43 GMT -5
Post by elshizzo on Jan 3, 2011 2:02:43 GMT -5
No way he's done. He's still in nearly just as good physical condition as he's always been.
He's just gotta focus. He tends to speed through things and make mental mistakes.
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Nagano
Jan 3, 2011 2:08:37 GMT -5
Post by Badalight on Jan 3, 2011 2:08:37 GMT -5
He's not done, but he needs to work on lower body. Even Nagano himself agrees. He's stated before that you start to lose the lower body first. He made that comment after not getting the warped wall on his first try back in... whatever shin tournament that was. He still has the technique, it's just a combination of nerves and a weakening of his legs and probably less time to train over-all.
But as been said, he's far from done.
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Jan 3, 2011 3:28:26 GMT -5
Post by lars072 on Jan 3, 2011 3:28:26 GMT -5
I personally do not know, I think he has one last run in him, but I think fatherhood as caught him, as well 38 with a child is not easy for anyone, proves to anyone that he is human. Try being 38 with 2 children! ;D
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Jan 3, 2011 4:44:43 GMT -5
Post by awee1975 on Jan 3, 2011 4:44:43 GMT -5
I personally do not know, I think he has one last run in him, but I think fatherhood as caught him, as well 38 with a child is not easy for anyone, proves to anyone that he is human. Try being 38 with 2 children! ;D you are one lucky guy! Anyway, i believed Nagano has 3 sons. i recalled watching Sasuke 9 & saw his 2 sons cheering for him. That was 2001? 9 years back? My goodness, time flies. His eldest son must be as old as some of the maniacs here.
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Jan 3, 2011 4:48:32 GMT -5
Post by arsenette on Jan 3, 2011 4:48:32 GMT -5
Try being 38 with 2 children! ;D you are one lucky guy! Anyway, i believed Nagano has 3 sons. i recalled watching Sasuke 9 & saw his 2 sons cheering for him. That was 2001? 9 years back? My goodness, time flies. His eldest son must be as old as some of the maniacs here. Aahahaha yeah. Kazuki and Yuta should be teenagers by now ... They were with him since Sasuke 7 and the last we saw them (on camera) was that glimpse back in Sasuke 9. His former wife was never too keen on Sasuke to begin with so they were always in the shadows. Besides.. back then they drove for 24 hours taking ferry's , etc. in a family minivan just to GET to Tokyo from Nobeoka.. that's a lot to take children through.. Since the divorce they live with their Mom and typical of Japanese culture.. they don't stay in touch with the divorced parent.
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Jan 3, 2011 4:48:53 GMT -5
Post by awee1975 on Jan 3, 2011 4:48:53 GMT -5
He's not done, but he needs to work on lower body. Even Nagano himself agrees. He's stated before that you start to lose the lower body first. He made that comment after not getting the warped wall on his first try back in... whatever shin tournament that was. He still has the technique, it's just a combination of nerves and a weakening of his legs and probably less time to train over-all. But as been said, he's far from done. i believe he said it after 23. i read that in Arsenette's blog. Yeah, after 35, the legs start to "go", unfortunately. Okuyama was a top-class sportsman & he gets to train daily in his job. Let us hope Nagano get his old form back. ;D
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Nagano
Jan 3, 2011 4:51:57 GMT -5
Post by awee1975 on Jan 3, 2011 4:51:57 GMT -5
you are one lucky guy! Anyway, i believed Nagano has 3 sons. i recalled watching Sasuke 9 & saw his 2 sons cheering for him. That was 2001? 9 years back? My goodness, time flies. His eldest son must be as old as some of the maniacs here. Aahahaha yeah. Kazuki and Yuta should be teenagers by now ... They were with him since Sasuke 7 and the last we saw them (on camera) was that glimpse back in Sasuke 9. His former wife was never too keen on Sasuke to begin with so they were always in the shadows. Besides.. back then they drove for 24 hours taking ferry's , etc. in a family minivan just to GET to Tokyo from Nobeoka.. that's a lot to take children through.. Since the divorce they live with their Mom and typical of Japanese culture.. they don't stay in touch with the divorced parent. Hell, Nagano is only 3 years older than me. Takeda is my age & his eldest son is like 7? i am ashamed.
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Nagano
Jan 3, 2011 5:41:54 GMT -5
Post by intelligentinfer on Jan 3, 2011 5:41:54 GMT -5
He's definitely NOT done.
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Jan 3, 2011 5:46:15 GMT -5
Post by arsenette on Jan 3, 2011 5:46:15 GMT -5
Hell, Nagano is only 3 years older than me. Takeda is my age & his eldest son is like 7? i am ashamed. Reiya is 10 iirc Yes.. we are getting old.. LOL
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Jan 8, 2011 18:08:17 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2011 18:08:17 GMT -5
Yeah It's tough, but it seems to me that ever since Ogasawara called him the new Mr.SASUKE he's been failing. All Ogasawara needs to do is take it back
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Jan 8, 2011 18:48:20 GMT -5
Post by SRW on Jan 8, 2011 18:48:20 GMT -5
he is far from done he will bounce back!
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Jan 8, 2011 19:27:11 GMT -5
Post by scnoi1217 on Jan 8, 2011 19:27:11 GMT -5
Hmm...I never gave my opinion on this:
While I don't think he is done, I don't think he will ever get back to the consistency he once had. Him failing the First Stage isn't even shocking anymore. I do think he does have one or two deep runs and if he does clear the First Stage, he is as good or better than anyone. However, that is going to be tough. He seems to have lost a certain amount of "swagger" in the last two tournaments that he used to have even up to 24. He's starting to lose some of his lower body strength and he can't train like he used to, especially with his family. I think currently he is comparable to Akiyama around the SASUKE 13-16 period where he is due for another good run.
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Jan 8, 2011 20:02:46 GMT -5
Post by jfeathe on Jan 8, 2011 20:02:46 GMT -5
We all know that in Sasuke 23 he nearly beat the whole thing. I know 23 seems long gone, but it was less than 1.5 years ago. With exception of a major injury, not too much can change in that time period.
Up until his dismount from the Jumping Spider, his 24 run was probably one of the best runs I've ever seen from him or any other competitor for that matter. He was so lively, fluid, and confident that he jumped from way back on the Jumping Spider.
I know he still has it, but isn't performing well. Since the First Stage is back to the crap shoot that it once was, I'm not as certain as I once was that he'll be able to clear. I know if he passes the first stage, he'll go very far, but again, it's all up to his performance in the first stage.
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Nagano
Jan 8, 2011 20:06:07 GMT -5
Post by Badalight on Jan 8, 2011 20:06:07 GMT -5
If Okuyama can still do it, so can Nagano. He's just had sort of a bad luck streak lately.
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Jan 8, 2011 20:18:11 GMT -5
Post by jfeathe on Jan 8, 2011 20:18:11 GMT -5
I think a good comparison is Kanno who made the 23 final, and then blew it in 24, somewhat in 25, and 26.
We know they both have skills but couldn't deliver as of lately.
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Jan 8, 2011 20:31:53 GMT -5
Post by scnoi1217 on Jan 8, 2011 20:31:53 GMT -5
We all know that in Sasuke 23 he nearly beat the whole thing. I know 23 seems long gone, but it was less than 1.5 years ago. With exception of a major injury, not too much can change in that time period. Up until his dismount from the Jumping Spider, his 24 run was probably one of the best runs I've ever seen from him or any other competitor for that matter. He was so lively, fluid, and confident that he jumped from way back on the Jumping Spider. I know he still has it, but isn't performing well. Since the First Stage is back to the crap shoot that it once was, I'm not as certain as I once was that he'll be able to clear. I know if he passes the first stage, he'll go very far, but again, it's all up to his performance in the first stage. That's what I was talking about when talking about his "swagger". In 23 and 24, he had that and flew threw most of the obstacles. It seems like he kind of lost that in 25 and 26.
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Nagano
Jan 9, 2011 0:51:54 GMT -5
Post by YoDaUO on Jan 9, 2011 0:51:54 GMT -5
If Okuyama can still do it, so can Nagano. This statement annoys me a bit when someone says it. No guarantee with that.. Okuyama is an olympic runner. Hes got endurance/speed and all that. Nagano is a fisherman. Sasuke is like a sport. Some people can be done at 30, yet others can still be strong till 40. Heck in some sports people can ever retire at 24 when they realize they arent as fast as they used to be and "lost their luster". You kind of understand what I mean?? Sorta like comparing Ishumaru to other 50+ year olds. So if Ishumaru can get to the Flying Chute so can they? Nah, 99% probably cant. Everybody is individual and have differences.. Athletes can have their "downfall" at different ages. Im not saying Nagano is done, just pointing out that if Okuyama can do it doesnt mean Nagano can.
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