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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 28, 2010 2:25:16 GMT -5
Not sure if I understand what you mean, but yeah the cylinder will roll forever and not go anywhere at the end.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 28, 2010 2:29:01 GMT -5
I was saying those things there were stoppers that held it in place... But they're not? What are those things there for? to stop it from rolling backwards?
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Post by Badalight on Dec 28, 2010 14:25:26 GMT -5
Bow down to me Rider, for I am correct.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Dec 28, 2010 14:39:18 GMT -5
David, I was wondering if you could answer this question I've had for a while. When the testers were demonstrating the 3rd stage to all of you, did they show the Flying bar to you guys? At the end after you cross all 5 sections, do you just swing to the platform at the end or is there something that you grab onto? When I was watching the broadcast on G4, I could have sworn I saw a bar at the end of the obstacle that you might grab onto to swing at the end. If the tester(s) even made it that far through the obstacle, did they actually attempt to swing back and forth to gain momentum for the dismount at the end? That would seem pretty tricky. If this is something you can't answer for some reason, I understand, just curious.
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 28, 2010 17:24:50 GMT -5
Just swing to the platform, it's not far.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 29, 2010 1:04:33 GMT -5
I don't see why there'd have to be something else... If you were able to get to the end of the track jumping the bar down the track.. you shouldn't have problems keeping it in one more time...
But were the testers having problems keeping it in the notches while trying to swing?
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 29, 2010 4:38:16 GMT -5
Yeah.. why do you think I always say "Nagano rule"? Most of that is because he used to wave them off and give them the evil glare while the producers are telling him to move his a**.. LOL He doesn't do that anymore really. I like the TBS broadcasts because you can see when the competitors are being reamed for taking too long between obstacles.. LOL What's the "Nagano rule"?
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 29, 2010 5:06:17 GMT -5
There are rubber ends on the bar, so it's pretty grippy in the platforms. Didn't look too hard to get a swing going. Not like the old pipe slider or anything.
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Post by HarlequinKnight on Dec 29, 2010 5:11:10 GMT -5
Yeah.. why do you think I always say "Nagano rule"? Most of that is because he used to wave them off and give them the evil glare while the producers are telling him to move his a**.. LOL He doesn't do that anymore really. I like the TBS broadcasts because you can see when the competitors are being reamed for taking too long between obstacles.. LOL What's the "Nagano rule"? Nagano always takes ridiculous amounts of time in between obstacles in the third stage, to make sure he's ready for the next one. Arsenette noticed this and mentioned it in her live blog and from then on anytime someone takes long breaks between obstacles, even sitting down, they're following the "Nagano Rule". That's it as far as I remember it, Arsenette might be able to clarify.
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 29, 2010 5:35:24 GMT -5
anyone have an example of this? youtube clip o something? It's hard to tell how long they're taking with the editing and all, but it definitely seems like they get over 45 seconds sometimes.
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Post by SasukeAnimator on Dec 29, 2010 8:15:45 GMT -5
If you listen closely to some of the older broadcasts you can hear the producers shouting "GO!" at him
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 29, 2010 11:46:37 GMT -5
anyone have an example of this? youtube clip o something? It's hard to tell how long they're taking with the editing and all, but it definitely seems like they get over 45 seconds sometimes. (Should be fine to post that since it's clearly marked anyways) Stage 3 starts at 2:42 On the first two breaks you can see he's being forced to start the obstacle and doesn't want to start yet. He seems to be going over time before the cliffhanger and you can really tell they're forcing him to start, Before the Jumping Bars and Devil Buranco you can clearly see he's obviously going over 30 seconds There are rubber ends on the bar, so it's pretty grippy in the platforms. Didn't look too hard to get a swing going. Not like the old pipe slider or anything. So that tester guy they showed jumping and sliding out of the notch in the opening and at 45 seconds in on The longer commercial for 25 was just a fluke or an unfinished version of the obstacle?
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Post by arsenette on Dec 29, 2010 12:19:04 GMT -5
Sasuke 17 was the year of the Nagano Rule LOL Though I was corrected that he was waiting for the cameras to set up around him. He always looks annoyed though when dealing with TV.. LOL He has gotten a lot better in just "going" instead of taking the full 30 seconds. Sometimes it IS more (visible only in the TBS ones since they don't cut as often as G4 does between obstacles) but not as often as was evident in Sasuke 17 where it seemed like an eternity between obstacles.
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 29, 2010 16:43:00 GMT -5
Yeah I heard something about cameras and having to wait for them in Stage 3. What happened exactly and how long did he have to wait *cough* get to rest *cough*?
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 29, 2010 17:03:36 GMT -5
anyone have an example of this? youtube clip o something? It's hard to tell how long they're taking with the editing and all, but it definitely seems like they get over 45 seconds sometimes. (Should be fine to post that since it's clearly marked anyways) Stage 3 starts at 2:42 On the first two breaks you can see he's being forced to start the obstacle and doesn't want to start yet. He seems to be going over time before the cliffhanger and you can really tell they're forcing him to start, Before the Jumping Bars and Devil Buranco you can clearly see he's obviously going over 30 seconds There are rubber ends on the bar, so it's pretty grippy in the platforms. Didn't look too hard to get a swing going. Not like the old pipe slider or anything. So that tester guy they showed jumping and sliding out of the notch in the opening and at 45 seconds in on The longer commercial for 25 was just a fluke or an unfinished version of the obstacle? The first breaks look normal, though it seems like they give him 45 seconds before the Jumping Bars and almost a minute before the Pipe Slider. Hard to tell though with all the editing. About the Pipe Jumper thing tester. I really can't say if it's a fluke or not. I think that if you go over to one side instead of staying dead center the bar is kinda short, so you can miss one side. Basically I think you fail more by missing the platform than by sliding out.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 29, 2010 17:08:27 GMT -5
(Should be fine to post that since it's clearly marked anyways) Stage 3 starts at 2:42 On the first two breaks you can see he's being forced to start the obstacle and doesn't want to start yet. He seems to be going over time before the cliffhanger and you can really tell they're forcing him to start, Before the Jumping Bars and Devil Buranco you can clearly see he's obviously going over 30 seconds So that tester guy they showed jumping and sliding out of the notch in the opening and at 45 seconds in on The longer commercial for 25 was just a fluke or an unfinished version of the obstacle? The first breaks look normal, though it seems like they give him 45 seconds before the Jumping Bars and almost a minute before the Pipe Slider. Hard to tell though with all the editing. About the Pipe Jumper thing tester. I really can't say if it's a fluke or not. I think that if you go over to one side instead of staying dead center the bar is kinda short, so you can miss one side. Basically I think you fail more by missing the platform than by sliding out. That's what I was saying, on Arm Rings -> Body Prop and Body Prop -> Curtain Cling he followed the rule.. Curtain Cling -> Cliffhanger he seemed to be going a bit over 30 seconds, And you caught on with the rest. I'm sure that it can be failed by missing on one side.. I was only talking about making the jump perfectly and your momentum pulls you out of the thing like in the commercial, that's unlikely to happen?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2010 17:29:06 GMT -5
Nagano is always being pushed to go on, but Levi went into the next obstacle immediately. Doesn't that make you see something, maybe like Levi don't wanna be yelled at, and it's getting to him. So much for no time limit.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 29, 2010 18:01:13 GMT -5
Nagano is always being pushed to go on, but Levi went into the next obstacle immediately. Doesn't that make you see something, maybe like Levi don't wanna be yelled at, and it's getting to him. So much for no time limit. Uhhhm... daphuck you talking about?... He was using up his breaks in 20, and in 23 they edited his breaks out even in the Japanese broadcast (I assume they had to make time in the broadcast and figured G4 was going to do that anyways...).
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Post by arsenette on Dec 29, 2010 19:20:37 GMT -5
Yeah I heard something about cameras and having to wait for them in Stage 3. What happened exactly and how long did he have to wait *cough* get to rest *cough*? I'm not sure why there were so many breaks in 17's course. They have changed a lot of things (maybe because of this??) where there are very little rest periods. I know for a fact though that they are constantly rushing parts just to make you wait.. I think that's why Nagano always has the annoyed look.. LOL As if the contestants even KNOW wtf is going on.. LOL From what I heard in 17 it was no more than a minute between. Seemed he was ready to go then he saw the camera's being physically moved (to get a better shot) so he just stopped and starting talking to his friends and goofing around.. then he'd turn to see if they were done and they were yelling at him.. LOL It's like wtf make up your damn mind... go or don't go? Can't have it both ways! Again I think this was mostly in 17. Anyone that even appears to be taking longer than 20 I laugh and mention Nagano rule as a joke
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Post by jfeathe on Dec 29, 2010 19:58:59 GMT -5
I've watched Nagano's 17 run multiple times and I always wondered what was up with the third stage. I never knew about the cameras and equipment having to be set up/moved. I love how Nagano acknowledges that he needs to go then takes like 10 seconds to get on the obstacle!
Regardless of the rules of the past, 30 seconds is far too little resting time for the course now. The obstacles are now absurdly difficult and lengthier (distance and time completion-wise) than ever. They should get at least a minute, preferably two.
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