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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2010 17:10:10 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen so much a*****es in one place, but the Ninja Warrior fan page on facebook.... I mean damn I've been to alot of places on the internet, I never thought that THIS would be the place where I'd fine alot of idiots, but wow. www.4chan.org/b/Anyway, yeah im kinda sick of the patrick hating, at the end didnt he say he would go, then the other dude told him "no i'll go"? Those people are intelligent a*****es. The fan page are retarded a*****es. Difference.
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Post by yamfriend on Dec 23, 2010 18:17:55 GMT -5
Overall, this is definitely better than last year and the year before that. Yes, at first when I watched it. Without going off on anybody, I kinda didn't like the fact that Patrick didn't volunteer, but when I was doing some other things, I thought about it and realized in Patrick's shoes why he really wanted to go. Maybe he figured getting this far was a fluke to begin with, and who knows if there will be another ANW so he can go to Japan. Who knows if he'll even make it that far again. Getting that close to going, and then not making it. Especially if it's been your dream for the past 5 years. It's got to be hard on him. You know he had heart though when he broke down. He really really wanted to go to Japan, but at the same time. Didn't want one of his new buddies to take the bullet for him and not go with him. It was a tough decision. I could be wrong about this, but Rich didn't seem too concerned. He's gone twice, and he might figure he'll get another shot next year anyway. Of course, all this can easily skew my thinking by some simple editing tricks. XD This is actually a pretty good way of saying everything. There's so many fans of the show in the U.S.A. who'd really like to go but there's so few spots and chances available to them. With that all said (as well as how Sasuke could end at any time), it may be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a huge fan like Patrick to go and compete in Japan. I bet that most people on this forum who are living the same dream would make a similar situation on the final day of boot camp, especially when being so close to what you've been working towards for so long. Now granted I know you and a lot of other people would feel terrible if the other person didn't get to go because of you, but those people don't and will probably never understand because it's not affecting them (after all, everyone has different dreams; we might feel the same way if the roles were reversed save being a different situation). Besides, unlike most of the other competitors (who seem to try to qualify to go primarily because they have a convenient chance to do so), Patrick has been dreaming of this chance for 5 years and, as I said earlier, may not get the chance ever again. Like you said, Rich has already been there and although we're certain he'd love to go back he's glad that he's gotten that chance twice prior to ANW2. It had to be rougher for him than what we saw on G4, but he's more of a casual fan and it wouldn't be close to as hard of a blow to him compared to someone like Patrick. Point blank, it would probably mean much more to Patrick to go to Sasuke than a casual fan despite how much you'd wish both could go. And for those who criticized him for his actions on the final day of boot camp, don't get mad at a kid for trying to make a 5-year-long wish become a reality---if it were your dream, I guarantee you'd be just as emotional about it too. If, however, there are future ANWs and he falls into a similar situation, THEN I feel he should have no reason to not volunteer himself for elimination, because at least then he would have gotten a chance already. Regardless of everything that happened in the process for 10 Americans to qualify, overall I'm pretty happy with how everything turned out. ANW2 could have been better done in some ways (with the biggest gripe easily being the "dramatic, dragged out, reality show-themed boot camp", but I digress), but it was nevertheless a drastic improvement over last year. I hope that considering Sasuke will continue on for a while longer, future ANWs will continue to improve with both course content and production. I also hope all 10 who made it did pretty well and are at the very least happy with themselves just for making it to the Stage 1 starting line. Which brings me to this... Either way, I'll probably be getting off the forums till the actual date of Sasuke. It's the best way I can think of watching Sasuke without any sort of spoilers. I'll probably end up going against what I said before about not watching the Americans' runs until after the TBS broadcast of Sasuke 26. It's so tempting and I'm a very impatient person. Besides, they're only showing the American's runs and I don't understand Japanese whatsoever, so when I and everyone else who watches 26 live on January 2nd we'll only know how the 10 Americans did while everything else SHOULD be spoilers, and I can live with that.
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Post by Straticus on Dec 23, 2010 18:27:48 GMT -5
@ JPjuice - Yea even my "Constructive Criticism" thread I started there has people posting negative stuff about me! WTF?!? I wish I could delete it so I don't get drawn into a meaningless online argument lol.
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Post by RobbyMac on Dec 23, 2010 18:43:29 GMT -5
If Patrick makes it to stage 2, nobody should have anything bad to say.
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Post by quasikoz on Dec 23, 2010 19:17:24 GMT -5
@ JPjuice - Yea even my "Constructive Criticism" thread I started there has people posting negative stuff about me! WTF?!? I wish I could delete it so I don't get drawn into a meaningless online argument lol. Fortunately there's a BIG difference between those that "Do" and those that "Type".
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Post by mikessssssss on Dec 23, 2010 19:52:48 GMT -5
America and japan are two completely different cultures each putting their own spin on television shows. Sasuke is laid back, less competitive and not as overly dramatic, although the case can be argued otherwise with their extended clips and shows etc. ANW is much more suspensful and dramtic and it plays on the this element throughout, the same with plenty of other shows.
This is an assumption, but the presentation of Sasuke might well be just as dramatic and gregarious as ANW but because it's in another langauge we cannot see all its intricities. Of course, this is an unqualified theory and it is, more than likely, bollocks.
Anyway, an overly dramatised Americanised depiction of Sasuke is what ANW is; it can't escape that because it is the best way to be successful and make money for an American audience. Yeah it sucks the way it ended - as good a team decision as it was Patrick wasn't ready, and the format was suspect - but i found it fairly entertaining.
To gather an actual audience, other than us obsessives, is probably not easy and this is the easiest route to success; drama.
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Post by snowy on Dec 24, 2010 8:41:23 GMT -5
This is an assumption, but the presentation of Sasuke might well be just as dramatic and gregarious as ANW but because it's in another langauge we cannot see all its intricities. Of course, this is an unqualified theory and it is, more than likely, bollocks. Excellent point, and not bollocks at all. We can probably think of a bunch of instances where M9 has played up a situation or manufactured stuff to make good tee-vee. I've always wondered if the subtitles are accurate.
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Post by snowy on Dec 24, 2010 9:06:05 GMT -5
Ding, ding, ding...this is the correct answer. The real shame about the selection is that those guys were put through that horsesh*t in the first place. Besides, who didn't do anything stupid and selfish when they were so young? I've never moved from my original opinion that G4 has no business sending ANY competitors to Sasuke (yes, I understand the financial aspects), but it seems like these competitions take one step forward and two steps back every..single.. time. Still, I bear the ANW team no ill will, and wish them success in the true spirit of Sasuke. What I think would be cool is for G4 to have another ANW competition, with the winner or winners to go to Japan to go head to head with Japanese qualifiers, with invitations to Sasuke being the big prize. But you know no teeeee-veeee network is going to lay out that kind of money without a shot at the big show. I look at it like this: Japan is a small country with far less people being given far more spots. Most of them are given automatic invites every single year no matter how poorly they do. Those that have to try out have a much less competitive much shorter try out process. We went through HELL to get into the top 10, and you think that after all that we should have to start out at the bottom again and try out all over again in Japan? That doesn't seem fair, and almost racist if you think about it. Honestly though. The Americans are so strong this year that if they did put us all in the Japanese trials everyone to make it through the Japanese trials would likely be American, so it would be unfair to the Japanese as well. Edit: nothing personal here and not meaning to call you a racist or anything LOL No offense taken, and none meant. I'm glad we can talk about this like civilized beings. Arsenette hit on a bunch of things I could have said: I thought Sasuke was a stronger show when M9 made the decisions, either through trials, submitted videos, or just Mr. Higuchi taking a shine to someone. Obviously, that process--especially the submitted videos--became unwieldy due to the show's success and popularity outside Japan. But yeah, I think it'd make great tee-vee for G4 to design a show to select Americans to go to Japan to be STQ'ers. I know a show like that isn't realistic. My main point is that a bunch of people perceive G4 has way too much power in deciding who gets to go to Sasuke...and that ain't right because when all is said and done it's still a Japanese game show. Financial considerations not withstanding and all. However (and here's where I get to eat a little crow), last night's show might have demonstrated that perception to be, um, less than accurate. I don't want to spoil anything here, but I saw something in the show that indicated M9 might have had had more decision-making power than we'd previously thought. So perhaps M9 still got to determine who got the invites, G4 got to showcase their 10 guys, and everybody's happy. And we fans might have over-reacted. We'll know more after Sasuke airs. I don't want to put you in the uncomfortable position of enlightening us Oh, and congratulations (you know what I mean)
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Post by arsenette on Dec 24, 2010 15:38:38 GMT -5
This is an assumption, but the presentation of Sasuke might well be just as dramatic and gregarious as ANW but because it's in another langauge we cannot see all its intricities. Of course, this is an unqualified theory and it is, more than likely, bollocks. Excellent point, and not bollocks at all. We can probably think of a bunch of instances where M9 has played up a situation or manufactured stuff to make good tee-vee. I've always wondered if the subtitles are accurate. The G4 subtitles have never been accurate.. that's why I rely on actual translations. As for TBS they are famous for playing up situations and even inventing them for television.. (Nagano being Yamada's heir apparent anyone?? LOL)
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 28, 2010 1:46:03 GMT -5
Ok 2 things: 1. If you are #30 that means you had the fastest time in the prelims, so you don't need to take 15 minutes. 2. If you DID stop before the Salmon Ladder and eat a sandwich or something and then proceeded to clear the course in 15 minutes I think that hands down beats someone that couldn't do the Salmon Ladder at all.I think this subject has about run it's course here. Why didn't you do #2 David? It would've been awesome. LOL I kinda did, check it out! Now you know why they fast forwarded me! Still got the 5th fasted time after all that!!!!! Made up a lot of time on the Salmon Ladder and rope net.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 28, 2010 1:50:48 GMT -5
Damn it didn't you learn your lesson in Sasuke 22? Wait.... Bad example....
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Post by bigblind168 on Dec 28, 2010 1:59:58 GMT -5
Why didn't you do #2 David? It would've been awesome. LOL I kinda did, check it out! Now you know why they fast forwarded me! Still got the 5th fasted time after all that!!!!! Made up a lot of time on the Salmon Ladder and rope net. Next year bring a sandwich or a pic-a-nic basket for this kind of circumstance. anyway congrats on your flawless preformance in both ANW and Sasuke
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 28, 2010 2:07:08 GMT -5
Damn it didn't you learn your lesson in Sasuke 22? Wait.... Bad example.... Dude that trampoline took out so many people! It was really awkward. Strat, Shane..... I'd do it the same way if I had it to do over again for sure. I knew there was no way that 15 people would clear the course anyway! : But I still got a better time than 5 of the 10 that did clear even after that.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 28, 2010 2:15:38 GMT -5
Damn it didn't you learn your lesson in Sasuke 22? Wait.... Bad example.... Dude that trampoline took out so many people! It was really awkward. Strat, Shane..... I'd do it the same way if I had it to do over again for sure. I knew there was no way that 15 people would clear the course anyway! : But I still got a better time than 5 of the 10 that did clear even after that. Yes... I know... I thought the " " would indicate that whole thing was a joke... XD
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 28, 2010 3:42:30 GMT -5
Oh yeah I almost forgot. I was planning on standing on the trampoline and then jumping to the Salmon Ladder, but then realized it was too far and I needed to jump down onto the trampoline to get enough bounce. That's why I stood on the trampoline so long.
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Post by arsenette on Dec 28, 2010 3:43:49 GMT -5
LOL Thanks for the video Yep.. definitely know why G4 FF'ed ya
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 3:48:40 GMT -5
Oh yeah I almost forgot. I was planning on standing on the trampoline and then jumping to the Salmon Ladder, but then realized it was too far and I needed to jump down onto the trampoline to get enough bounce. That's why I stood on the trampoline so long. Yeah I saw you looking at it like "How the hell am I gonna do this?" then you climbed back up and jumped. I see why they digested you though.
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 29, 2010 17:28:25 GMT -5
Damn Brian's fingers looked messed up... Oh yeah, during bootcamp while we were all eating crappy bootcamp food Levi looked over at Brian O. and was all "Hey where'd you get the bacon??!!" Brian: "What bacon??" *laughter ensues* I think it was Levi....or maybe Rich ....or Shane.....definitely someone from the white team......pretty sure it was Levi.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Dec 29, 2010 18:03:02 GMT -5
Question about semis again... How exactly far was the salmon ladder from the platform? Like would it be possible for someone to beast it and jump from the platform and not going down to the trampoline?
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Post by davidcampbell on Dec 29, 2010 18:50:10 GMT -5
Well I'd dislocate my shoulder if I tried it. I don't really remember, bit I had that thought and decided it was a no go when I got there.
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