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Post by Badalight on Jan 17, 2011 13:51:27 GMT -5
A 13 year old gameshow being canceled =/= the sky falling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 13:54:48 GMT -5
Lars is right... I just think he's being a little over dramatic about it...
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 13:59:10 GMT -5
A 13 year old gameshow being canceled =/= the sky falling. Cancellation = sky is falling if you are a fan of the show
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 14:00:38 GMT -5
Lars is right... I just think he's being a little over dramatic about it... LOL so am I if you put it into perspective as well I'm not at all happy how apathetic M9/TBS have become with Sasuke.. I think that's the core of our frustration and we all show it in different ways. We all can agree though.. we love the show .. just differ in how to save it/if it's even possible at this point.
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 17, 2011 14:09:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't like Sasuke being cancelled but I wouldn't kill myself over it mostly because I wouldn't be surprsed if 26 was our last one (also having to do with the fact that I think G4 will be picking it up here in the US somehow but thats another thread). I would be bothered a lot if 26 was the last one mostly because I just didn't enjoy it all that much. Like lars said, I would like a good ending. Lets say it was Sasuke 24 that had bad ratings and the show was cancelled before 25. I wouldn't mind too much because there would be closure. I would hate for the show to go out on 26 because it lacks very little closure. Sasuke just began its new chapter and it would not be good to end right now (also I would like to see tha UCH cleared at some point in the future).
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Post by Badalight on Jan 17, 2011 14:15:58 GMT -5
Honestly, if Sasuke were to get canceled before I'm 21, I'd rather sooner than later.
As selfish as that may sound.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 14:19:14 GMT -5
I would like a good ending if it has to be that way as well. Seems though in Japan they don't announce endings like they do here in the USA. For example giving them a heads up that their show has been canceled so they have a chance to say "goodbye".. seems they disappear into oblivion.. I think that's why I get so frustrated because we could literally have seen the last one and not know it yet.. M9 can say all it wants.. if TBS doesn't think it's worth their money to keep investing.. it's over. M9 have already burned bridges in a few networks so it's doubtful it would appear in another network. The closest we'll have is invites as guests in American Ninja Warrior.. but by default it's already for one demographic only. As shown by ANW2 they didn't even show the runs of their guests in the show since it didn't fit the format. But yes.. that's another thread. Honestly, if Sasuke were to get canceled before I'm 21, I'd rather sooner than later. As selfish as that may sound. There's a LOT of people in your boat That's what pisses me off from G4.. among many other things LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 14:21:35 GMT -5
That's why I've said I treat Sasuke 26 as the last one. Which I hope it isn't, worst Sasuke to end on lol.
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 17, 2011 14:24:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Sasuke ending on any of these four notes 1) All stars and new stars do well 2) UCH beaten 3) 3rd stage beaten 4) Kanzenseiha Any of those would give some sort of closure for me IMO.
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Post by jfeathe on Jan 17, 2011 14:33:53 GMT -5
I know the jump from a 7.5 rating to a 9 isn't outstanding, but at least they did something to pull in more viewers.
If the ratings stayed constant, then I would be more worried. But for some reason they went up. Additionally, (I STILL don't know if I'm getting this right) it seems they went against tough shows.
If a single celebrity could boost the ratings 1.5 percentage points AND you factor in the heightened competition, I think things could pick up if the proper planning is put in.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 14:41:12 GMT -5
Additionally, (I STILL don't know if I'm getting this right) it seems they went against tough shows. Nah that's not right. They had the least amount of major competition. They had the quietest night of all 3 from New Years and since it was late all the other shows that garnered the higher ratings that whole weekend were already off the air.. so there was no excuse they didn't at least get close to winning the timeslot.. As a comparison.. shows that had a higher ratings went up against juggernauts and still managed decent ratings although still lower each time from the next.. this time they had almost no competition and they still didn't do well. Though you are right about proper planning changing things.. but TBS/M9 have not shown any interest in actually DOING that.. that's my main concern..
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Post by Badalight on Jan 17, 2011 14:49:54 GMT -5
Maybe TBS will notice the 1.5% increase though, maybe that tells them M9 has a chance of increasing the show's popularity, and perhaps they'd throw them a bone and give them 1 more chance.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 15:20:38 GMT -5
Maybe TBS will notice the 1.5% increase though, maybe that tells them M9 has a chance of increasing the show's popularity, and perhaps they'd throw them a bone and give them 1 more chance. Well when asked via Twitter they still thought the 9.0 it was a failure.. But we don't know if G4 is going to dangle enough money in front of TBS to allow one more. TBS has to decide if it's worth it for the loss of ratings in Japan.
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Post by Badalight on Jan 17, 2011 15:30:54 GMT -5
Maybe TBS will notice the 1.5% increase though, maybe that tells them M9 has a chance of increasing the show's popularity, and perhaps they'd throw them a bone and give them 1 more chance. Well when asked via Twitter they still thought the 9.0 it was a failure.. But we don't know if G4 is going to dangle enough money in front of TBS to allow one more. TBS has to decide if it's worth it for the loss of ratings in Japan. TBS could always put it in some time slot where viewership across the board is down and they don't expect good ratings. That way, it wouldn't be such a huge loss for TBS yet they'd still get that money from G4.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 16:04:41 GMT -5
Honestly don't know if TBS is willing to throw away money in the Japanese market.. would behove them business wise to milk ANW for all it's worth without Sacrificing 2-3 hours of their timeslot on a show that won't give them ratings.. Do I want that? Hell no.. but that's the reality right now. Depends on what TBS wants right now. We already know G4's position and even M9's. It's TBS' money that they have to shell out just to even create Sasuke.. it's not cheap to produce.
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 17, 2011 16:05:51 GMT -5
I'm pessemistic about sasue's future but Bada has a point. The ratings DID improve. I would consider Sasuke completely gone had the ratings been less that 25's ratings. I can still see Sasuke surviving just because this may be the start of a trend that brings up ratings.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 16:11:01 GMT -5
I'm pessemistic about sasue's future but Bada has a point. The ratings DID improve. I would consider Sasuke completely gone had the ratings been less that 25's ratings. I can still see Sasuke surviving just because this may be the start of a trend that brings up ratings. I guess the argument between the pessimists and optimists will remain.. based on WHAT are people basing their optimism and pessimism? TBS considered it a failure.. and they don't seem optimistic about it.. given that the television station that produces the show doesn't think it did good enough.. I don't see why anyone should feel optimistic.. The reality is it was a failure in the eyes of those who deem it important and ultimately have the power to cancel theshow.. the producers of the show - TBS. I think what we should be feeling is WISHFUL.. because both optimists and pessimists can agree there.. we want the show back.
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Post by lostinube on Jan 17, 2011 18:49:47 GMT -5
grooveasia.com/news/28486/TBS-to-drop-34-Tokyo-Friend-Park-34-after-18-yearsSASUKE's saving grace is that it is a between season filler - a program not aired year round. Since Japan doesn't have a re-run season, producing new shows all the time is a big money suck for the TV stations. SASUKE usually brings in higher ratings on a Sunday than, say, showing a movie but it's costlier. But make no mistake, as this shows TBS will eventually give the axe if programs are not performing.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 17, 2011 19:49:19 GMT -5
grooveasia.com/news/28486/TBS-to-drop-34-Tokyo-Friend-Park-34-after-18-yearsSASUKE's saving grace is that it is a between season filler - a program not aired year round. Since Japan doesn't have a re-run season, producing new shows all the time is a big money suck for the TV stations. SASUKE usually brings in higher ratings on a Sunday than, say, showing a movie but it's costlier. But make no mistake, as this shows TBS will eventually give the axe if programs are not performing. Yikes.. though at least they have time to say goodbye .. I mean I know that's so unusual for Japan. I'm hoping if it is the end for Sasuke in Japan they get one more out and call it the last Sasuke.. Thanks though for the article (and in English.. whoot!). I sent that to a few friends of mine that watch that show.
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Post by cole77000 on Jan 17, 2011 19:57:45 GMT -5
Ohh this is not good >_>
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