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Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 20, 2008 19:01:03 GMT -5
I realized I forgot to make a topic about this, but something I noticed when I saw the G4 broadcast of Sasuke 21, but on the Spider Flip, Nagano put his foot around and into the scaffolding thats holding up the wood which is how he as able to lean over without a hand, isn't that technicly a Course Out?
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Post by bigblind168 on Nov 20, 2008 19:29:42 GMT -5
yes it is
but i guess he didnt kno/notice
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Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 20, 2008 19:40:26 GMT -5
Wow, even if he didn't fail the Gliding Ring and he'd still have not made it to the Final Stage, thats pretty weird if you think about it, I mean usually they don't tell you that you got disqualified until the end of your run or if you fail before that they don't make a big deal about it, but Nagano if he messes up he just stops (granted Sasuke 18 isn't enough of an example as its the only time he got disqualified AFAIK)
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Post by talledega7 on Nov 20, 2008 19:46:44 GMT -5
Maybe the producers said it was OK. Remember, Nagano was the first competitor to have ever even reached the Spider Flip, so the rules dictating what is legal and what isn't might not have been fleshed out as well. Besides, he might have asked someone before he even went and they might have said that it was legal.
Besides, would you have wanted to be the one to see that and have to call out to Nagano and say "Um, excuse me? Nagano-san? That's illegal and you are now disqualified." At least the Cliff-Hanger disqualification allowed him to get to solid ground.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 20, 2008 19:49:18 GMT -5
OK, good point there. I don't think anyone would want to go up to nagano and say he's disqualified.
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Post by Homeslice on Nov 20, 2008 22:58:22 GMT -5
Especially because in 18, Nagano disqualified himself - he knew he was in the wrong then. But I didn't notice anything in 21. I totally missed something, it seems.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 20, 2008 23:01:54 GMT -5
I didn't notice on the files I had either, like I said, it was on the G4 broadcast where I noticed it, hard to catch in this big of a vid if you don't know what you're looking for  (and even that took a few tries to catch) |
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Post by arsenette on Nov 21, 2008 1:38:36 GMT -5
No they would definately walk up to Nagano and say "you are disqualified" he is not exempt from the rules as much as you think he is. He is not untouchable. He did the same thing in Viking and he knew he could do it. I t's part of the actual obstacle and he didnt' use it to get across.. just to rest .. which is allowed. Higuchi as much of a hardnose as he may be is above all things.. is fair.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 21, 2008 1:48:15 GMT -5
Huh, here I thought you were only allowed to touch the wood part.
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Post by arsenette on Nov 21, 2008 2:24:42 GMT -5
The iron harness that holds the "wood" is part of the obstacle.. so I have no bloody clue what you guys are talking about. It is literally physically impossible to come up underneath the obstacle only touching the wood when the wood is attached to the iron... so is he supposed to float? Because him HOLDING on to it or even wedging his leg into the iron bar for resting doesn't constitute a course out.. it's part of the obstacle..  |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 21, 2008 2:31:43 GMT -5
Theres over an inch of wood on each side after the supports end, and technicly they probably expect you to stand on the inch wide ledge holding onto the ends of the wood.
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Post by davidyko on Nov 21, 2008 3:49:48 GMT -5
You know, after reading this thread three times, I still have no idea what this is about. He's on the damn obstacle the entire time, so what's the deal?
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Post by obakemono on Nov 21, 2008 6:39:53 GMT -5
Looks like a course out to me but it's no big deal really. DQing him for that would be incredibly harsh, not to mention bad for business. Someone making it to the Gliding Ring bodes better for Sasuke 22, after all...
There are definitely examples of competitors being unfairly treated, though. Okuyama in 20 and Ishimaru in 13 come to mind. I guess you're not allowed a rerun if you've already been in the water, kinda spoils the illusion of perfection on TV...
EDIT: Ah, so that's why Levi said, "I didn't know it was allowed." I didn't really get that before.
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Post by dwizzo on Nov 21, 2008 11:42:55 GMT -5
I agree with arsenette, the metal part is PART of the obstacle... You are supposed to put your legs in there while climbing, and you put your hands behind the wood in the metal part to climb... 100% allowed...
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Post by obakemono on Nov 21, 2008 11:57:40 GMT -5
It's not part of the obstacle, if it was you'd just use the scaffolding to climb up it, much easier than an I-beam climb. It's just the structure.
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Post by talledega7 on Nov 21, 2008 16:50:26 GMT -5
No they would definately walk up to Nagano and say "you are disqualified" he is not exempt from the rules as much as you think he is. He is not untouchable. He did the same thing in Viking and he knew he could do it. I t's part of the actual obstacle and he didnt' use it to get across.. just to rest .. which is allowed. Higuchi as much of a hardnose as he may be is above all things.. is fair. I never said Nagano was exempt from anything (although I can see how you would think that). What I meant was: Look at where he was when he was resting. The man just went through the Jumping Bars, Ascending Climb, and half of the Spider Flip. He's suspended however many feet in the air and the only ways for him to get down would be to complete the obstacle, drop into the water, or to do his best imitation of a contortionist to get onto the top side of the thing. And could you imagine the crowd reaction if all of a sudden he had just put on that amazing feat of strength and all of a sudden got told "Nope. Sorry. Rest is only for losers and disqualifiees." |
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Post by joeywhitesox00 on Apr 19, 2010 16:52:34 GMT -5
i think he wasnt DQed because he only put 1 foot on the metal part
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Post by artyfowljr on Apr 19, 2010 16:57:41 GMT -5
I don't think it woulda been a course out, especially if he did that in Viking as well. And even if it was, he didn't know, so A- he should have gotten a rerun or B- they would have had to let him pass.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 19, 2010 18:05:08 GMT -5
i think he wasnt DQed because he only put 1 foot on the metal part Wow... was it really needed to bump a topic about 2 years old just to say something that's a non-issue? And if the look in 23 and 24 make any indication.. it's legal but frowned upon... or to do his best imitation of a contortionist to get onto the top side of the thing Sorry for replying to an old post in the same post I complain about bumping... but man we were wrong about it being hard to get up there..  |
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Post by joeywhitesox00 on Apr 19, 2010 18:47:05 GMT -5
i think he wasnt DQed because he only put 1 foot on the metal part Wow... was it really needed to bump a topic about 2 years old just to say something that's a non-issue? And if the look in 23 and 24 make any indication.. it's legal but frowned upon... or to do his best imitation of a contortionist to get onto the top side of the thing Sorry for replying to an old post in the same post I complain about bumping... but man we were wrong about it being hard to get up there.. just sharing why i think he wasnt DQed |
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