Sasuke 18 Vids

[davidyko]

Jul 8, 2009 3:58:22 GMT -5 lostinube said:

Also, for those who aren't aware, the Japanese broadcast of 18 scrolls a list of all the contestants with names and numbers. This is the information that the Japanese geocities site used which I in turn worked off of to add in names for 18. Takeda and Hiromich Sato didn't have numbers.

Ah. Nice to know. Ignore my dumb comment, then.

[lostinube]

I should add that there was a number 86 and there was no corresponding information for numbers 4,5 and 8 but I'm pretty sure Sato and Takeda didn't have any of those numbers. Can someone go back and check to see if they even ran the race?

[bigblind168]

Jul 8, 2009 4:59:47 GMT -5 lostinube said:

I should add that there was a number 86 and there was no corresponding information for numbers 4,5 and 8 but I'm pretty sure Sato and Takeda didn't have any of those numbers. Can someone go back and check to see if they even ran the race?

why wuldnt they have run the race, the were in the competition?

[SRW]

It works for me fine on real player and WMplayer just change the last bit to .wmv and it works on windows media player.

[scnoi1217]

Jul 8, 2009 4:59:47 GMT -5 lostinube said:

I should add that there was a number 86 and there was no corresponding information for numbers 4,5 and 8 but I'm pretty sure Sato and Takeda didn't have any of those numbers. Can someone go back and check to see if they even ran the race?

I tried looking for Takeda as he would probably be the easiest to spot with his orange pants. I did see one guy with orange pants but its more likely #69 Matsuoka Nobutoshi who is also a firefighter. Plus, the guy was bald so it wasn't Takeda. Also, I'm not sure that he was there in the beginning. Usually him and Nagano are inseparable and Nagano can be seen hanging out with Nagasaki instead. Maybe Takeda came late?

Also, a thing about the race. I think that only 99 people ran it. At one point the showed where certain people were and they said Korikki was 99th (its possible Aoki was behind him). However, Korikki was the last to finish the race (Aoki must have finished ahead of him) and he chose #9. However, #1 is still there. I find it hard to believe a pro snowboarder and past SASUKE competitor would lose in a race to the most famous gut.

On a side note, Nocchi should stick to impersonating Obama, he looks nothing like Katsumi Yamada...

[lostinube]

Just checked the TBS broadcast. Neither Takeda nor Sato were shown during the race. In fact, neither show up in the broadcast until fifty minutes in whichh would be quite unusual for competitors of their notoriety. I'm just guessing but the most likely scenario is that both weren't able to be there at the beginning and TBS just gave them slots that they thought were appropriate.

If you want to make sure that you get on the broadcast, isn't number one usually a good bet?

I think only 97 people ran the marathon but because M9/TBS probably already knew that two were going to be late and already gave them slots they used poetic license to show that Korikki was dead last. But then why not go with showing him as 100?

We have no way of knowing if there always are 100 competitors. It's possible that people drop out at the very last minute due to illness or some other sort of misfortune. We know that three numbers weren't filled, all of them in the single digits that the people who were running the marathon were probably trying to avoid. If we assume that Takeda and Sato weren't able to participate in the marathon and if they had, someone would have ended up with those numbers (Korikki probably would have had one of them and others would have been bumped down since we know that Sato and Takeda would finish at least in the middle of the pack) that leaves just one number not filled.

[RiderLeangle]

I watched the race to see what you meant about Takeda and Sato not being there. And I just laughed at one thing and had to make it a motivator

[arsenette]

In future years you had competitors (*cough* Shingo *cough*) Strolling in later in the day (missing the beginning of the competition. It could have been where they actually traveled the same day and got there in the middle of the afternoon thus missing the race. Not everyone arrives early to Sasuke.

[julie]

Didn't Takeda think of retiring after Sasuke 17? I thought he didn't want his son made fun of in school if he did poorly on the show. He changed his mind after his son told him he wanted him to continue. Not sure when they actually had the race, but if it was before he came out of retirement, he wouldn't have been there. If they ran it just before the tournament, this probably has little to do with it, and he must have just arrived late. Mine is still converting so I could have no idea what I'm talking about.

[arsenette]

He did retire after 17 but 2 weeks before 18 he was FINALLY convinced by Nagano and M9 to come back. He had no time to train specifically for the course itself which explained a lot. Sato also wasn't there on time either. Both must have traveled the day of and missed the race. This was after all the first time they ever time (and last) that they ever did an actual footrace to determine places.

[RiderLeangle]

Well it could be that, or we could still keep speculating that they went and brought a portable game console/laptop/book/newspaper into a porto-potty


BTW, The .avi is up for those who know where to look

[Alpha4273]

best unseen part of the tournament was Takayuki Kawashima's flip at the beginning of his run.
that was amazing lol

[RiderLeangle]

Seeing the whole broadcast I got a full grasp on why they made the 19 first stage course the way it was, because 18 was one big technical failure.
The Rope Glider even without the 5 inujries is bad, they had to duct tape a string to it just to reset it and even then you had to climb up that hill, and your momentum onto the pad is enough to toss you into the water and could take out good competitors too easily, not to mention they had to make the course go sideways just to make it so you don't get injured by the next obstacle, the backwards turn was pointless though.

Log Grip was just designed bad, instead of the track holding it on there were steel cables attached to the log, and the left one was longer (or set up in a way it was longer) so there was less friction on that side as opposed to the other so it twists whether you want it to or not, not to mention the cables made it operate too slowly, in a fast forward the log completely stopped during one fail. (EDIT: Proof).

Pole Maze they didn't make it much of an obstacle, the pole was too small to effectively grab which is why so many people slipped down when they weren't the ones who hugged the pole and the track was set up so you can just vault to the next side and just had to move it getting off.

Jumping Spider had a runup so long you didn't have to hit the trampoline to get up there and not only that it was too low and close so even with a 19-22 size runup you wouldn't have to hit it

Bungee Bridge was obviously placed badly on the course, the people who can get that far are good enough they can't fail it, outside of testers only one guy fell through and he and even the testers could still hold on fine so this was literally an unfailable obstacle.

Great Wall itself wasn't as much the problem but the bar where they held the rope was, they covered it up with a huge block between the Great Wall and the Flying Chute which was really pointless when they could have placed the rope on a smaller step.

Flying Chute had a rope so small it was just plain dangerous, all your weight and momentum isolated to that one spot where the rope was grabbed was an injury waiting to happen, not to mention it was too easy as you just had to ride onto the rope.

And the Final Climb the net was much too flexible, that was actually a good thing for trying to get competitors to fail but if anything it made it a bit too difficult for their dificulty goal.

[BLM]

Jul 9, 2009 15:11:10 GMT -5 RiderLeangle said:

The Rope Glider even without the 5 inujries is bad, they had to duct tape a string to it just to reset it and even then you had to climb up that hill, and your momentum onto the pad is enough to toss you into the water and could take out good competitors too easily, not to mention they had to make the course go sideways just to make it so you don't get injured by the next obstacle, the backwards turn was pointless though.

Like TERU

[scnoi1217]

Interesting to note that Nagano is really bad at long distance running and still got a really high number, the highest available at that time. At one point where they show where certain people are in the race, Nagano was 50th while Yamada and others that picked numbers in the low 70s were 37th.

[Alpha4273]

maybe they were leaving it for Nagano on purpose

[Oti]

That defeats the purpose of the run.

[arsenette]

True but for him he didn't get 100 so I'm sure he was uber happy about that

BTW some trivia I"m sure you guys didn't know. Though I'm sure it's in a Japanese wiki when I went to look for it. Nagano had to do the log grip twice. It got stuck halfway through and wouldn't move. He then had to climb it to get out and start his run over in 18. Needless to say M9 almost had a heart attack because it's exceedingly rare that someone having to do a redo would actually complete that stage.

[RiderLeangle]

So that's at least two instaces we know of that the Log Grip got stuck on in 18. Makes me wonder how many times it happened the whole day, there were a few times it completely stopepd, a do-over run caused by it stopping, and as previously mentioned, a fast-forwarded stop

[arsenette]

Provided that it's an obvious technical failure they will redo the run .. rather than it getting stuck or off because of bad technique. (like Travis Allen derailing the pipe slider, etc.).