Gamble
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Post by Gamble on Jul 7, 2010 11:05:39 GMT -5
I, like many of you, am in favor of the Shin-Cliffhanger because it defined an era. It was simple (by today's standards), yet it the most catastrophic obstacle on the coarse. The Ultimate Cliffhanger is a bit ridiculous and looks like a battleship. It just doesn't fit in the coarse.
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Post by RobbyMac on Jul 7, 2010 11:45:51 GMT -5
Sasuke shouldn't be beaten easily. With the level of the competitors there has to be difficult obstacles like the UCH and the Jumping Pipe?
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Post by japantv1210 on Jul 7, 2010 13:34:26 GMT -5
As for Kishimoto Shinya... He needs ALOT of work to make it there.. You guys do realize he failed the Dome Steps in 25 right? You're always gonna bring that up aren't you? . Keep in mind though that Nagano seemed to stumble a bit on the Dome Steps too, and Akiyama even failed an easier Quintuple Steps back in the 9th tournament, and then two tournaments later he made it back to Stage 3. So, don't count out Shinya clearing Stage 1 just yet. I personally would like to see how he would do on some of the tougher obstacles like the Jump Hang and Warped Wall though before I say he could clear Stage 1. I personally think someone will clear the UCH in 26. I think it will probably be either Urushihara or Nagano though. I actually think Nagano has a pretty good chance, because from the videos of his training on his ship that TBS shows he practices the Cliffhanger in that right to left motion that seemed to throw everyone off. Plus, he has some pretty crazy endurance, so I think he has a good shot.
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Post by mikessssssss on Jul 7, 2010 16:24:05 GMT -5
Well, Nagano pretty much beat the shin cliffhanger on his first attempt so i think he might do something special on the new one. Perhaps it's more wishful thinking, but i reckon if Nagano gets there he can do it.
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Post by SRW on Jul 7, 2010 16:42:11 GMT -5
Nagano can beat it for sure I have faith!
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venomcarnage89
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Jul 7, 2010 17:38:00 GMT -5
I think Nagano would have failed it in 25, but with 6 months to train I think his chances of success are very good assuming he makes it to the UCH in the first place
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Post by SRW on Jul 7, 2010 18:28:48 GMT -5
I think Nagano would have failed it in 25, but with 6 months to train I think his chances of success are very good assuming he makes it to the UCH in the first place All 100 would have failed it in 25 lol.
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Gamble
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Post by Gamble on Jul 7, 2010 22:01:39 GMT -5
I think Nagano would have failed it in 25, but with 6 months to train I think his chances of success are very good assuming he makes it to the UCH in the first place All 100 would have failed it in 25 lol. Completely agreed. Its too heavy of an obstacle to be able to conquor on your first try, but adversely, I doubt any "serious" competitors will go out on it. Ive seen more people make videos of them conquering this obstacle than any other particle obstacle in my trolling of YouTube for Sasuke videos. A lot of people are prepared for this obstacle and Im gonna be suprised if it remains uncleared in Sasuke 26
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 7, 2010 22:18:23 GMT -5
All 100 would have failed it in 25 lol. I wouldn't say that, but instead that almost everyone would have failed it. IMO, Ryo and Yuuji could've probably beaten it if they got that far. After all, they are UNCLI members, and we all know how much time they spend focusing on training on whatever kind of Cliff Hanger they can come up with. I'm not saying that it would've been a walk in the park for them, but they would've probably been able to get through it despite the stamina they lost as well as the fatigue from the previous obstacles.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 7, 2010 22:22:05 GMT -5
All 100 would have failed it in 25 lol. I wouldn't say that, but instead that almost everyone would have failed it. IMO, Ryo and Yuuji could've probably beaten it if they got that far. Did you see David's post on the last page?
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Post by supersheep on Jul 7, 2010 22:25:03 GMT -5
Well, Nagano pretty much beat the shin cliffhanger on his first attempt so i think he might do something special on the new one. Perhaps it's more wishful thinking, but i reckon if Nagano gets there he can do it. Nagano did not beat the SCH on his first attempt, he said himself that had he not grabbed the top he would have fallen in and even tho it was offered, he said he did not deserve a 2nd chance.
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 7, 2010 22:41:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that, but instead that almost everyone would have failed it. IMO, Ryo and Yuuji could've probably beaten it if they got that far. Did you see David's post on the last page? I know that Ryo supposedly failed it anyway, but maybe it was just a slip-up by him for all we know due to the initial shock upon seeing it at first glance. I know that this seems a little farfetched, but it's possible. There could be any logical reason behind him failing the UCH for all we know other than him actually getting tired on it. Either way, it would still be hard for me to believe that even Ryo would fail the UCH from all that we see and hear about him. BTW, is there a known video of this yet? Because another thing that I don't get is when he could have attempted it before they started Stage 3 considering that they had that giant tarp over it the entire time before the grand unveiling.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 7, 2010 22:42:01 GMT -5
I didn't want to post this for fear of hate mail But honestly I think when/if Nagano makes it to the UCH he's going to fail one of the two jumps towards the end and isn't going to clear the obstacle.. And I think that the obstacle would get replaced before he beats it.. Just a weird gut feeling on that one
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Post by davidcampbell on Jul 7, 2010 23:59:02 GMT -5
Yamfriend: Read my post on the last page again.
Rider: The jumps are actually the easiest part of that obstacle (for me and Travis at least). The hard parts are that first rail and just the length of the thing after you've spent so much energy just getting up the first 2 rails. But yes I agree about Nagano, though I think he'll fail before the jumps, I DO think he'll get that far next time though. Can't wait to see him on it!
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 8, 2010 0:42:26 GMT -5
Rider: The jumps are actually the easiest part of that obstacle (for me and Travis at least). The hard parts are that first rail and just the length of the thing after you've spent so much energy just getting up the first 2 rails. But yes I agree about Nagano, though I think he'll fail before the jumps, I DO think he'll get that far next time though. Can't wait to see him on it! Yes... I'm well aware of this.. While I don't have a proper replica theres this one thing I use to replicate all kinds of cliffhangers and I've done the UCH on it.. But what I'm saying is I think Nagano will be drained by the time he gets there and won't be able to hold on.. I mean he IS Nagano but something in my gut is telling me he can't make it all the way through on his first try.. Because another thing that I don't get is when he could have attempted it before they started Stage 3 considering that they had that giant tarp over it the entire time before the grand unveiling. You don't understand how it worked... What they did would be get the competitors attempting looking, Reveal the obstacles, Then have testers go through showing you what you have to do (In fact going to commercial early in the broadcast (I think as Levi was starting.. I'd have to check) they SHOWED demonstrators attempting Stage 3).. What do you think would happen? That the testers went through the whole stage going behind the sheets?
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Post by supersheep on Jul 8, 2010 7:26:21 GMT -5
Rider: That would be a great idea for a cliffhanger,
Put a sheet over it and make them try it except in front of the sheets. Let's see you beat THIS one Ryo!
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 8, 2010 13:17:58 GMT -5
1: I was making a joke.. Not an idea 2: Sounds like a bad idea.. If you start failing the Cliffhanger you can Curtain Cling to save yourself and get back to the ledge
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 8, 2010 13:30:00 GMT -5
Because another thing that I don't get is when he could have attempted it before they started Stage 3 considering that they had that giant tarp over it the entire time before the grand unveiling. You don't understand how it worked... What they did would be get the competitors attempting looking, Reveal the obstacles, Then have testers go through showing you what you have to do (In fact going to commercial early in the broadcast (I think as Levi was starting.. I'd have to check) they SHOWED demonstrators attempting Stage 3).. What do you think would happen? That the testers went through the whole stage going behind the sheets? Okay, I understand this now. Maybe I just don't remember this that well since I last watched all of 25 over 3 months ago. BTW, has there been a video shown of Ryo testing the UCH at 25 yet? I obviously know that we've seen him on replicas of it since then, but seeing him try it for the first time would be pretty interesting to see.
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Post by mikessssssss on Jul 8, 2010 14:07:20 GMT -5
1: I was making a joke.. Not an idea 2: Sounds like a bad idea.. If you start failing the Cliffhanger you can Curtain Cling to save yourself and get back to the ledge Hah, i think he was joking too
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Post by davidcampbell on Jul 8, 2010 16:00:58 GMT -5
You don't understand how it worked... What they did would be get the competitors attempting looking, Reveal the obstacles, Then have testers go through showing you what you have to do (In fact going to commercial early in the broadcast (I think as Levi was starting.. I'd have to check) they SHOWED demonstrators attempting Stage 3).. What do you think would happen? That the testers went through the whole stage going behind the sheets? Okay, I understand this now. Maybe I just don't remember this that well since I last watched all of 25 over 3 months ago. BTW, has there been a video shown of Ryo testing the UCH at 25 yet? I obviously know that we've seen him on replicas of it since then, but seeing him try it for the first time would be pretty interesting to see. No such video has been aired or posted anywhere, which is why you don't remember it.
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