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Post by intelligentinfer on May 2, 2010 21:27:31 GMT -5
Will Yamada have a good chance on later stages if he clears stage 1?
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Post by TCM on May 2, 2010 22:01:43 GMT -5
You say it like he's coming back/competed in 25. We have no known information of ANY Yamada known or otherwise competing. Must there be a thread on the man every two weeks? We left Koji Yamada alone, let's leave Mr. SASUKE alone as well.
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Post by FAMAS on May 3, 2010 5:16:41 GMT -5
I think he should've been made a commentator/interviewer. I imagine he's a guy who would know what he's talking about, and since he's had experience on the course it makes sense. I'm sure he'd love that as a job.
Sort of like how they have retired boxers or football (soccer) players become commentators.
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Post by HarlequinKnight on May 3, 2010 5:36:22 GMT -5
I think he should've been made a commentator/interviewer. I imagine he's a guy who would know what he's talking about, and since he's had experience on the course it makes sense. I'm sure he'd love that as a job. Sort of like how they have retired boxers or football (soccer) players become commentators. This isn't a bad idea, maybe as a colour commentator every now and then. Only problem is that he might not be the brightest person, so he might just make bland comments like "Nagano failed the circle slider because he's short". But it would give him another job, even if it's only twice a year.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2010 7:30:19 GMT -5
I think he'll come back. He skipped Sasuke 13, too, but came back for Sasuke 14. I don't think he'll retire for good. He loves competing in Sasuke too much. If he clears the first stage I really don't see him having any trouble in the second stage and third stage. Those are mostly upper-body now, and that's mostly what he trains for. I think he can get to the final. Katsumi Yamada will achieve kanzenseiha!
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Post by venomcarnage89 on May 3, 2010 8:18:41 GMT -5
I bet he would have stayed retired this time, but probably got to see the new first stage and thought " Damn, I actually hav a chance again! Alright thats it im in 26 baby!"
So I think he will be back eventually, how could he not if he saw the new stage 1? He is just too dedicated and engulfed into Sasuke to give up when he might have a chance now.
As for my vote, I voted fail stage 3, but I haven't seen much of Shin Sasuke lately so I can't recall his shape all that well, and if he did intend to retire forever then he might have quit training and it truely is too late, but sinec stage 2 is pretty much the same as before I think if he kept with training and passes stage 1 he could beat stage 2.
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Post by Gavo on May 3, 2010 8:20:12 GMT -5
I don't think that he's coming back . But IF he comes back the only thing I can see him failing in the first stage is the wall. I can see him failing everything in the 2nd stage except the slider drop. He has no competitive experience on the salmon ladder (not sure if he has down it at muscle park), No experience whatsoever on the Unstable Bridge and Metal Spin and we all know about the balance tank. I'd say he would most likely fail the bridge If by a miracle he makes it to the 3rd stage, Ultimate Cliff Hanger, enough said. But I don't know why I wrote all that since its unlikely he's coming back
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Post by mikessssssss on May 3, 2010 10:03:44 GMT -5
i don't see why he can't just come back and not take it so seriously; go out and have fun. He was obsessed with it but perhaps he's mellowed somewhat.
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Post by jfeathe on May 3, 2010 11:35:54 GMT -5
He'll have a better chance at the current first change than he did with the shin-Sasuke first stage.
The only obstacle that will be new to him will be the Bridge Jump.
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Post by BLM on May 3, 2010 13:53:00 GMT -5
I dont think he is coming back anytime soon but when he does i see him timing out on the second stage because he has never tried any of the obstacles except the Balance Tank and Wall Lifting
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Post by chackpop on May 3, 2010 16:31:05 GMT -5
If Yamada came back, and then beat Stage One, I could easily see Yamada failing the Double Salmon Ladder.
He would be intimidated by it, sort of like the Warped Wall and not give it his all. He could go up with a bad techinque, similiar to Yamada Yoji and lose strength near the top. Double Salmon Ladder for awhile and then Maybe Metal Spin if he ever makes it there.
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Post by YoDaUO on May 3, 2010 19:00:32 GMT -5
Yamada will never clear the first stage if the warped wall is still there.
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Post by yamfriend on May 3, 2010 22:32:56 GMT -5
Yep, like chackpop said, Double Salmon Ladder. Even if he's practiced on the original Salmon Ladder at Muscle Park or whereever else there's one available for him to use, the Double Salmon Ladder requires more strength/technique/stamina, not to mention that being in his mid-40s would also work significantly against him. Don't get me wrong though---if Mr. Sasuke returns, I think that he'd actually get past the new Stage 1 as long as: 1) Stage 1 is identical/similar to 25's 2) he doesn't make any stupid/early mistakes 3) he can overcome his intimidating feelings about the Warped Wall If he does clear Stage 1 in the future, I'd be very happy for him. It would be great to see him clear it at least one more time, as well as become the oldest Stage 1 clearer ever. As a comparison, it would be about emotional and epic as Akiyama's Stage 1 clear in Sasuke 11, if not better.
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Post by RiderLeangle on May 3, 2010 22:37:39 GMT -5
We don't know that.. He has passed it in the past and even in 24 he had it a few times.. Him failing it is clearly mental.. Maybe the easier course would give him confidence he can beat the stage and he could get over on his first try.. I think the Circle Slider is his real enemy.. It's been changed since in 17 (and before anyone argues that he passed it in 17.. So did Nagano and look what happened there), I kind of doubt he can pass it. As for Stage 2 I know he has a Salmon Ladder replica in his yard but I don't see him passing the Double Salmon Ladder, Seems like he'd fail the mental aspect TBH, I can also see him landing on the lower notches when making the jump.. If he passes the DSL I really doubt he'd make it on the Unstable Bridge.. You say it like he's coming back/competed in 25. We have no known information of ANY Yamada known or otherwise competing. Must there be a thread on the man every two weeks? We left Koji Yamada alone, let's leave Mr. SASUKE alone as well. 1: It's spoilers in case it does happen so a certain person won't be pissed 2: Oh great.. Now I pictured you in a Chris Crocker voice going "Leave Yamada Alone!" XD
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Post by YoDaUO on May 3, 2010 22:45:30 GMT -5
If he does make it past stage 1, He will probably fail the metal spin if he keeps his head together which he probably wont.
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Post by Zorn on May 3, 2010 23:42:27 GMT -5
Or maybe he might even make it into stage 3! And he might get far there too =0 although only a possibility.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 7:31:57 GMT -5
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Post by Badalight on May 4, 2010 11:30:44 GMT -5
Some of the things said in here so far have been a bit... stupid.
Yod: He can pass the warped wall. Obviously he has troubles with it but he freaking grabbed the top of it in 24 and let go. Plus he got over it in 23. The other time he failed it in Shin-Sasuke he was complaining about a hurt ankle, so even if he has problems witht he obstacles, it's not where near "impossible" for him. Get your facts straights.
About the double salmon ladder... he has a replica of it. He has done it in all the maguro festivals and other Sasuke related events. He has done it in muscle park. He has never had trouble on it and I've never even seen him struggle on the thing. He can do it easily.
Now you'll probably say "OH, BUT THAT WAS JUST THE REGULAR, SALMON LADDER, THIS IS THE DOULBE SALMON LADDER, IT'S TWICE AS HARD!"
To which I would reply... no, the double salmon ladder isn't twice as hard. It's a LITTLE harder. When people see the double salmon ladder, they think competitors have to do 2 salmon ladder. What you don't know is, out of the people who passed in 25 they went up the SAME NUMBER OF NOTCHES. Of course you may have to go up more if you suck at the transistion, but everyone who passed went up the same amount of notches as in the original salmon ladder.
So what is the difference? The ONLY difference would be the jump portion. Meaning if Yamada can do teh regular salmon ladder, he would only have to have enough stamina to do an extra jump, big whoop. If someone like Jun Sato can do it, Yamada can do it.
If Shingo can do it, Yamada can do it.
Now onto where I actually think he might fail.
- Unstable Bridge: it takes a bit of technique, he may pull a Richard King here.
- Metal Spin: I feel like he wouldn't get enough distance with his jump, therefor even if he had the strength to pass he wouldn't have much of a chance to begin with.
He most likely won't fail the wall lifting, and he can pass the balance tank.
Stage 3 would end on the UCH.
But his chances of beating stage 1 have gone up a lot, if he can actually move faster than a snail for once.
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Post by YoDaUO on May 4, 2010 12:36:56 GMT -5
Yod: He can pass the warped wall. Obviously he has troubles with it but he freaking grabbed the top of it in 24 and let go. Plus he got over it in 23. The other time he failed it in Shin-Sasuke he was complaining about a hurt ankle, so even if he has problems witht he obstacles, it's not where near "impossible" for him. I know that he can do it but it always slows him down. Thats why i dont thing he will pass while its still there. I know he had it in 24 but still didnt make it. Get your facts straights. um, its an opinion.
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Post by scnoi1217 on May 4, 2010 12:46:13 GMT -5
Even if Yamada could do all the obstacles in Stage 2 (which is still debatable), the biggest thing against him is always time, and in the Second Stage it will be no different. Unlike most of Shin-SASUKE, the second stage's time limit is actually pretty strict. Sans Kongu, everyone else that cleared, cleared with about 5 seconds left. Yamada had trouble with the Second Stage even when it was far less trickier.
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