scnoi1217
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Post by scnoi1217 on Apr 19, 2010 17:15:50 GMT -5
I voted "mutual feeling" because although it requires a gripping technique that will strain your arms before you even tackle the UCH, I believe that it makes the UCH all the more difficult. Face it, the UCH is already an extremely tough obstacle (quite possibly one of most difficult ones ever on Sasuke), and the Floating Boards is decreasing the likelihood that someone will be able to beat it in the near future. As a result, it could hurt the ratings even more if nobody can beat the UCH soon, which for all we know might even lead to Sasuke's cancellation sooner than we think. I also wanted to say that, IMO, the Floating Boards were pretty boring to watch. To be honest, the only parts of Sasuke 25 that I skipped over were some of the runs on this obstacle. Sure, I didn't mind it the first time, but seeing it 4 times would've bored the crap out of me. If it was up to me, I'd replace the Floating Boards with something like this. Just throwing it out there for like the 10th time... ;D The Body Prop was also a boring, long obstacle to watch and everyone loves it and wants it back. Plus, for YEARS all through the Shin-SASUKE era, people have been complaining the Third Stage is too easy, now that they actually made it hard, people are complaining it is too hard. The UCH will be beaten as long as the "right" people make it to the Third Stage. M9 and TBS will make sure of that. The reason it took the Shin-Cliffhanger so long to be beaten was because no one really got there for the first few tournaments. SASUKE 21 was the second real tournament where people had a legit shot of clearing, and look what happened, they did. The UCH may take longer than two tournaments to be beaten, but that will be because of its difficulty, not for lack of attempts.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Apr 19, 2010 17:29:54 GMT -5
I'm happy the ridiculous long, harder first stage is gone and the second stage modified only slightly so we can have more attempts at the monstrous third stage. It's the way it should always be and seemed that way during the ones before Nagano's win. I agree and I will say that the third stage not being beaten from the low amount of attempts was rather stupid.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 19, 2010 19:44:05 GMT -5
You want a grip killer? Sorry for being aggressive, but getting rid of the doorknob and the boards and bring back the Body Prop and Curtain Cling, and you'll see how they struggle on the UCH. Sorry to say man but I think you chose the wrong two obstacles to say would be a real grip killer. The Body Prop isnot even a gripping obstacle, what it will kill is your arms, but not your grip strength. And the curtain cling became nothing after the contestants finally figured out you can use your legs, esentially turning it into a similar motion to the floating boards, but far easier. Doesn't mean I don't want either of those obstacles though, I say trash the doorknob grasper and put in the body prop, but I want the boards to stay. Speaking for myself... the curtain cling in my opinion (not swing) is a lot harder than the floating boards. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion... I got my a** kicked when i replicated the curtain cling. However when i replicated the floating boards, it was a bit easier than the curtain cling. Even though you can use your legs on the curtain, they don't help that much. On the floating boards your legs are everything.
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 19, 2010 20:25:46 GMT -5
Curtain cling and the boards are about even in difficulty. The fact that you cant really use your legs on the curtain cling evens it up. Okuyamas feet saved him.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 19, 2010 20:46:52 GMT -5
Well I'm not saying the curtain cling is harder than the floating boards... but for ME personally, it is.
Dunno what it is. The usage of my feet can really save my a** on the floating boards though.
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venomcarnage89
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 19, 2010 20:53:52 GMT -5
Feet are everything in the floating boards, I commend someone who has the grip strength to get through that in the manner used by everyone on the show, but without connecting your feet. Personally I have never attempted the curtain cling myself, so I cannot really say with certainty, to me the floating boards(which I have tried) seemed like it would be harder. But my leg training is nowhere near the level of my upper body training, so that obviously affects the results. It seemed like you could get far better grip to me on the curtain cling though, you could wrap it into your fist while the boards you are stuck pinching them with your hands.
Well whatever I guess, I may just build a minor replica of the curtain cling to find out. The curtain cling was funner to watch, if it were to be brought back I would like it to have 2 curtains, parallel the long way, but with a big gap you must swing to reach the second curtain.
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Post by Oti on Apr 19, 2010 21:14:31 GMT -5
While kinda boring to watch, it's not a bad obstacle.
Also, tried it myself on something. Much, much harder than looks. And should be. o.O
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Post by Badalight on Apr 19, 2010 22:34:17 GMT -5
Well you can KINDA get a good grip on the curtain cling... but it's stretched out so really you'll only grabbing a little bit of the "curtain". Plus it's sort of... should I say slippery? You need hella grip strength to hold on already and your hands sort of slip.
Dunno, maybe it's just me because there are plenty who disagree with me. I'd even say the curtain cling is harder than my cliff-hanger.
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venomcarnage89
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 20, 2010 7:31:49 GMT -5
@ Oti,: I agree, it was alot harder than I expected it to be. Did you end up trying it with your shoes off? I find it very hard with my shoes but my feet grip very very well when Im barefoot, I can see why everyone was barefoot on Sasuke 25 now.
@ Bada: Seems like it just might be the way you've built your strength I guess, if its harder than your cliffhanger, everyones got their stronger and weaker points.
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Post by Oti on Apr 20, 2010 7:49:05 GMT -5
Well if you think about it, the Curtain Cling is harder to hold onto because you have to squeeze the fabric to keep yourself from falling. You can just hang on the Cliff Hanger.
I didn't try it barefooted, no.
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Post by theannoyingninja on Apr 20, 2010 14:02:35 GMT -5
Maybe the curtain cling is harder to hole on to. But it doesn't require much strength other than grip. The cliffhanger requires arm strength, (something that I have had much trouble on myself) grip and endurance. I just think that it is an all-around harder obstacle.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 20, 2010 19:10:23 GMT -5
Maybe the curtain cling is harder to hole on to. But it doesn't require much strength other than grip. The cliffhanger requires arm strength, (something that I have had much trouble on myself) grip and endurance. I just think that it is an all-around harder obstacle. No it really doesn't. It's finger strength really... The curtain cling takes the same amount of arm strength... I mean do you honestly think the cliff-hanger takes more arm strength? If you think so... that's silly. Wanna know why? Because you are holding up the same amount of weight! I am 150 lb's on the cliff-hanger, and I am 150lb's on the curtain cling. My arm strength is going to be tested equally in both really... And the curtain cling takes 10x more grip strength than the cliff-hanger. Hell the cliff-hanger really isn't grip strength at all... you arn't gripping the ledge, you're holding onto it. It's all fingers. That and curtain cling takes finger strength aswell... So what do we have? Cliff-hanger: Finger strength, arm strength Curtain cling: Finger strength, arm strength, grip strength I mean I respect your opinion... but you're sorta wrong on that Unless you've tried both you can't really comment like you know what you're talking about. The endurance works for the curtain cling to... so that's a terrible example. And while you THINK that, have you honestly tried both? I think the curtain cling is harder than the regular cliff-hanger, and I recall Oti agreeing with me too (I'm speaking of the Sasuke 17 version). Curtain cling really takes all of your strength to hold onto. Cliff-hanger you're just holding onto a ledge. Curtain cling will take all of your grip and finger strength just to hold on, you gotta get to the end aswell Now take me for example. I can do my cliff-hanger easily. Hell, I can do it forward and back with a 20lb weighted vest on. It's easy now. Piece of Cake. I can BARELY force my way through the curtain cling. I mean, I know everyone is different, but I hate when people say an obstacle is easy when they've never tried it. I thought the same as you before I tried the curtain cling, I thought it'd be hella easier than the cliff-hanger. Turned out I was wrong.
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