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Post by chackpop on Apr 17, 2010 19:44:03 GMT -5
Well the Kanzen Renewal brought us a completely different Stage Three.
The Floating Board is the new third obstacle in Stage Three, replacing the Devil Steps.
I think it is a very good and original obstacle. It may not have eliminated any comptitors in Sasuke 25, but all 4 who did had made it to the Final Stage in 24. Also, at one point Okuyama almost fell off. That tells you something.
What are everyone's thoughts on this obstacle?
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Post by japantv1210 on Apr 17, 2010 19:57:57 GMT -5
I like it alot. I personally think it's deceptively difficult, and it requires a great deal of grip strength to hang on. It also reminds me of the Body Prop a bit, because you have to use your legs and hands to hang on.
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Post by supersheep on Apr 17, 2010 20:05:06 GMT -5
I did'nt like it, moved really slow and was boring to watch.
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Post by chackpop on Apr 17, 2010 20:06:50 GMT -5
I did'nt like it, moved really slow and was boring to watch. The Body Prop was very slow as well. I thought that when Okuyama was only hanging on the third board by his knees was very exciting to watch. |
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Post by scnoi1217 on Apr 17, 2010 21:32:13 GMT -5
Yea, I liked it. Any obstacle that really drains the competitor's strength is good imo. Plus, Okuyama never had any trouble with the Devil Steps, so I definitely think this and the rest of Stage 3 is a step up.
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 17, 2010 21:56:13 GMT -5
I liked it. It fit in well with the new stage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2010 23:15:03 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't like it either. The problem is the first 3 obstacles are easy, and than the Cliff Hanger is IMPOSSIBLE.
I wouldn't mind the Floating Boards if the previous 2 obstacles were harder.
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Post by chackpop on Apr 17, 2010 23:33:24 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't like it either. The problem is the first 3 obstacles are easy, and than the Cliff Hanger is IMPOSSIBLE. I wouldn't mind the Floating Boards if the previous 2 obstacles were harder. I wouldn't call those three obstacles exactly easy. Roulette Cylinder should be longer, as with the Doorknob Hanger. Maybe the two should be made seperate. But that's for a different thread But you can't say the Floating Board is easy. It kills the grip and we will likely see a fail or two next Sasuke. |
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Post by Badalight on Apr 18, 2010 0:40:10 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't like it either. The problem is the first 3 obstacles are easy, and than the Cliff Hanger is IMPOSSIBLE. I wouldn't mind the Floating Boards if the previous 2 obstacles were harder. Let's see you do them buddy  They were hard enough to tired okuyama out enough so that he couldn't even attempt the UCH. They tired Kenji out enough that he could BARELY attempt it. Brian failed the second one. The only one who made them look "easy" was Lee. Plus these 3 are way harder than Sasuke 24's first 3. Or even Sasuke 23's first 3. I mean... out of every person to ever attempt shin-sasuke 3rd stage... only 1 person failed in the first 3 obstacles. ONE PERSON. This is a huge step up.  Roulette Cylinder+Doorknob Grasper >>> Arm rings and Descending GlobeGrasp/Rope junction. Floating Boards >>> Devil Steps UCH is not impossible... is Lee and Koji weren't stupid they could've made the 3rd ledge, and Lee probably even the fourth. (He wasn't very tired at all, just couldn't reach the next ledge). And it was the first tournament... everyone got owned on the shin-cliffhanger when it was introduced, and now it's a joke. UCH will become beatable very soon. My guess is in Sasuke 27. |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 18, 2010 0:46:37 GMT -5
Who are you forgetting? Miyazaki or Shingo? Or do you mean because Shingo was injured you don't want to count it?...
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Post by artyfowljr on Apr 18, 2010 7:43:48 GMT -5
yeah, I wouldn't count Shingo. His injury that day simply cut any possibility to make it.
Anyway, I liked the Floating Boards, pretty much for chackpop's same reasons.
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 18, 2010 8:35:39 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't like it either. The problem is the first 3 obstacles are easy, and than the Cliff Hanger is IMPOSSIBLE. I wouldn't mind the Floating Boards if the previous 2 obstacles were harder. Ok. The first 2 are pretty easy i have to admit. But the floating boards are NOT easy. |
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 18, 2010 9:39:07 GMT -5
The first three obstacles exsist solely for the purpose of killing your grip before the UCH, this course was made with nothing but strategy behind it, in which case i love the floating boards.
Nobody saw that obstacle coming, so they didn't train for it, and didn;t have the best technique to get through it, thus killing their hands and making the UCH attempts with more to be desired. It doesn't take rediculous grip to do this obstacle(as I have been practicing it), but it does take really hard grip when your legs are not trained as much as your arms. The trick to this obstacle it to increase the hell out of your leg strength so you do not have to use your hands as much, and save them for the UCH, this is the training that will be extremely important in completing stage 3 now. Thats why I loved the obstacle, they knew that it would be left to people gripping so hard that they would be dead by the UCH.
Just gonna get it out there that I HATE the doorknobgrasper and want a way better obstacle put there soon.
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Post by mikessssssss on Apr 18, 2010 12:43:54 GMT -5
The first three obstacles exsist solely for the purpose of killing your grip before the UCH, this course was made with nothing but strategy behind it, in which case i love the floating boards. Just gonna get it out there that I HATE the doorknobgrasper and want a way better obstacle put there soon. Me too, i don't like it at all. If they replaced it with the globe grasp i think it would fit better but then that might be a little too hard. |
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Post by intelligentinfer on Apr 18, 2010 22:48:00 GMT -5
The first three obstacles exsist solely for the purpose of killing your grip before the UCH, this course was made with nothing but strategy behind it, in which case i love the floating boards. You want a grip killer? Sorry for being aggressive, but getting rid of the doorknob and the boards and bring back the Body Prop and Curtain Cling, and you'll see how they struggle on the UCH. |
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Apr 18, 2010 23:40:34 GMT -5
The Floating Boards kicked a**, not only was it the hardest third obstacle ever in the 3rd stage but seemed like something that was simple and easy to replicate at home.
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 19, 2010 7:01:24 GMT -5
The first three obstacles exsist solely for the purpose of killing your grip before the UCH, this course was made with nothing but strategy behind it, in which case i love the floating boards. You want a grip killer? Sorry for being aggressive, but getting rid of the doorknob and the boards and bring back the Body Prop and Curtain Cling, and you'll see how they struggle on the UCH. Sorry to say man but I think you chose the wrong two obstacles to say would be a real grip killer. The Body Prop isnot even a gripping obstacle, what it will kill is your arms, but not your grip strength. And the curtain cling became nothing after the contestants finally figured out you can use your legs, esentially turning it into a similar motion to the floating boards, but far easier. Doesn't mean I don't want either of those obstacles though, I say trash the doorknob grasper and put in the body prop, but I want the boards to stay. |
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Post by theannoyingninja on Apr 19, 2010 14:25:03 GMT -5
People are saying that the first 2 obstacles are too easy. They are supposed to be. They wear you down NOT just for the UCH. They wear you down for some of the obstacles AFTER that as well. Too many people are missing this. (not all of them are though)
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 19, 2010 15:42:20 GMT -5
People are saying that the first 2 obstacles are too easy. They are supposed to be. They wear you down NOT just for the UCH. They wear you down for some of the obstacles AFTER that as well. Too many people are missing this. (not all of them are though) Its essentially the same thing, wearing down is wearing down. |
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Post by yamfriend on Apr 19, 2010 16:51:12 GMT -5
I voted "mutual feeling" because although it requires a gripping technique that will strain your arms before you even tackle the UCH, I believe that it makes the UCH all the more difficult. Face it, the UCH is already an extremely tough obstacle (quite possibly one of most difficult ones ever on Sasuke), and the Floating Boards is decreasing the likelihood that someone will be able to beat it in the near future. As a result, it could hurt the ratings even more if nobody can beat the UCH soon, which for all we know might even lead to Sasuke's cancellation sooner than we think. I also wanted to say that, IMO, the Floating Boards were pretty boring to watch. To be honest, the only parts of Sasuke 25 that I skipped over were some of the runs on this obstacle. Sure, I didn't mind it the first time, but seeing it 4 times would've bored the crap out of me. If it was up to me, I'd replace the Floating Boards with something like this. Just throwing it out there for like the 10th time... ;D |
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