Takeda on the Downhill Jump

[yamfriend]

Something that I've been curious about for a while now regards how people land on the Downhill Jump landing mat.

In Sasuke 18, 19, and 20, everyone simply landed on the mat normally (method #1), i.e. they didn't use the "swing forward and then fall back on to the mat" technique (method #2).

Starting in Sasuke 21 and all the way through Sasuke 24, everyone except Nagano and Takeda landed on the Downhill Jump mat using method #2. These 2 competitors were, IIRC, the only ones that used method #1 to land on the mat in these last 4 Shin-Sasuke competitions. Is there a reason behind this? Why didn't they use the technique that everyone else used? It is supposed to symbolize that they are All-Stars or something like that (despite the fact that Yamamoto used method #2 in Sasuke 23)? I'm very curious about this!

[arsenette]

LOL Unless you ask them or can get into their brains we will never know..

[yamfriend]

It just seems so random (and even risky in a way after seeing Nagano on it in Sasuke 18) for them to do this for no apparent reason IMO. Perhaps if I ever get a chance to meet them, I'll ask if I run out of other things to say (though that would be pretty unlikely ).

[bigblind168]

what i have found is that *MOST* people are ermm... "sheep" for lack of a better term, as in, they follow what everyone else did

SO i suspected that the demonstrator did that for 21-24 and thats what most did

[YoDaUO]

Well i guess they just got used to doing it that way. Thats the pro way to do it . Back then i dont think they knew that method 2 was possible. Maybe they thought it would be like the glider thingy in the first stage (1st obstacle in 18). Why is the topic on Takeda though? lol

[yamfriend]

Apr 6, 2010 20:03:26 GMT -5 YoDaUO said:

Why is the topic on Takeda though? lol

Because only it sort of has spoilers for 23 and 24, plus only Takeda made it to here in 24.

[RiderLeangle]

That's because they changed the track of the rope itself. 18, 19 and 20 the track stopped just before the mat, 21 on it came out over the mat which means while it's possible just stop it's more "dangerous" that way and just wait for it to stop on it's own. So they didn't want to have their balance messed up so it was best just to wait for it and drop down while it's not going as fast. While before 21 going straight to the mat WAS the whip forwards

[artyfowljr]

Pretty much was Rider said. I'd also think they felt confident enough to let go earlier and gain a couple of seconds, while others didn't.
Oh and Yamfriend... thank you for bringing back to my mind the mental picture of Nagano's faceplant on the mat in 18 LOL. That was priceless.

[Badalight]

You guys are looking way to much into this.

The reason is simple... they felt more comfortable doing it that way.

My cliff-hanger technique is much different than most peoples. My chin goes above the bar. Why do I do that? Because it feels right to me. It's MY technique.

I've tried other techniques... yet that's the one I prefer. There's very little reasoning behind it besides the fact that I just like it better.

Nothing more to it than that =)

[BLM]

Daisuke Nakata also did it Takeda and Nagano's way. That is how he reinjured he hands

[Badalight]

BLM: He never
reinjured" his hands... I'm sure the fall may have hurt his hands... but they never fully recovered in the first place.

I mean, they weren't broken anymore, but he lost most of his grip because of the accident. Even if he landed perfectly he wouldn't have beaten the downhill jump.

[arsenette]

From what Nakata said on his blog.. he didn't injure his hands on the fall to the mat. His hands seized when he grabbed too hard on the rope. It's part of his nerve injury.. when he does something too strenuous or out of the ordinary his hands seize mimicking that of a claw of a crab.. he can't bend his fingers or hang on to anything. How he landed on the mat was due to the fact that his hands already were having problems at the rope... not the other way around.

[YoDaUO]

Wow that sucks. Howd he survive the HPA?

[RiderLeangle]

He controlled his grip probably..
DHJ he probab;y thought if his grip was too light he'd fail, instinct kicked in and he hurt himself..
Kind of sad really.. :/

[arsenette]

Exactly Rider. He seemed to have overcompensated on the downhill rope as opposed to the HPA. It's just shame he has that injury to begin with.. damn hit and run..

[RiderLeangle]

I guess he thought the HPA was more controllable while the DHJ was too wild and he thought he'd fail if he didn't give all he could into it, like I said, Instincts..

Wow I feel I spend way too much time over-analyzing everything in Sasuke.. I guess that's why I started a Sasuke Blog.. That way it's acceptable and not just weird XD

[arsenette]

<--- Sasuke Otaku .. I've been told.. so welcome to my world.. LOL

[YoDaUO]

Dang, you 2 know everything. lol

[arsenette]

Apr 7, 2010 21:54:46 GMT -5 YoDaUO said:

Dang, you 2 know everything. lol

Well I follow blogs including one of Nakata's (which are HYSTERICAL btw) and one of the huge ones was his take on his Sasuke run and why it will most likely be the last one for a while (this was before we knew he was facing surgery.. again..)

[Badalight]

AGAIN?! Nooooo.

Daisuke was the first person I ever saw clear Stage 1. And he was my first "favorite" competitor.