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Post by darkthunder90 on Apr 6, 2010 18:21:46 GMT -5
If you are in the 18-20 range or atleast support them, then read on! G4 has allowed our age group to participate in Santa Monica course and though they might not allow us to go to Japan, we should fight to atleast run the trial course. I want my chance to run the trial course just as I'm sure others want to as well. But in order to make this happen, we need to be organized and we need support from Sasuke fans. The competitors on Sasuke support one another and I believe we can do the same. Our goal is to atleast try the trial course if not get a chance to go to Japan.
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Post by TCM on Apr 6, 2010 18:30:14 GMT -5
As much as I support lowering the age limit, G4 won't listen. At the most they'll plausibly say "we'll let you try the course, but your run won't be valid". Personally that would a slap to the face not just the younger crowd (because they would do that just to make you all happy and quite frankly "shut you up" to put it bluntly) but for those who would be kept from trying who are serious in the age group, because G4/Pilgrim is on a schedule; they try to set up at a certain time, and take it down at a certain time. They would be willing to let a few "last minute" guys who are of legal age, 20 on down wouldn't even be considered a priority.
Don't want to sound like I'm trying to bring down the optimism, but I'm just speaking what I think.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2010 18:53:16 GMT -5
G4 HAS listen to their fans before, and it HAS worked. It doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
You can try Open Source, which hasn't had a new one in a while, but its worth a shot.
And yeah, make a thread on the G4 boards, I'll gladly post there too.
I think if your 18-21, you should be allowed to go on the trial course, but not advance. And you have to upload a video in order to gain your spot.
The only other school of thought is "Its crowded enough as it is." Which is one of the reasons G4 probably isn't pushing for younger people to go.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2010 18:58:46 GMT -5
G4 has gone on record that they will not change the 21 entry. Period. They've said it several times and they have said it recently.
While I agree that the age is monumentally dumb.. given the success of the younger generation in Sasuke (notably Sato Jun in recent memory) G4 is not interested in doing this for various reasons.
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Post by baronbk on Apr 6, 2010 21:04:48 GMT -5
One, it could be a legal issue (or safeguard against a legal issue). Two, they wouldn't just let you run the ANW course when there are so many people trying out and so little time. I feel for you, but I really don't see it happening.
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Post by supersheep on Apr 6, 2010 21:19:47 GMT -5
Yeah Baron is right, they didn't even have near enough time for all the ones that were eligable to run the course, and people who came from far away got left out, and its likely that it will even be more packed next time. Kind of hard to say to someone who came from half way across the country, Sorry, I know you're seriously trying to get on the show but we're gonna let some 18 year old run just for the hell of it even though he doesn't count.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 6, 2010 22:41:09 GMT -5
OK... as much as I'd personally like them to lower the age limit for ANW this won't happen (If I was home earlier today I'd point out they already said it but arsenette beat me to it ) and even if they did for an ANW and not ANC there is a term that describes if they did.. That term rhymes with "Bluster Duck"... ANW1 had a bunch of people who didn't get to attempt the course for the qualifying round and they had 2 days.. After ANW1 aired a bunch of people saw that and say "Hey! I can do that!" or "I'd like to get on Ninja Warrior" or "I can get farther than them on Sasuke.." (We call those people in the last group "forum members" ) so there will be around twice the amount of people from last time AND they announced it a few months in advance so there are people who have their plans ready.. ANW2 is going to be a Cluster... You know... anyways.. So then add more people? anyone see the problem here?.. Also, the Ninjafest 4 "Ninja Killer" thing should NOT be compared American Ninja Warrior, That was a small event they gave a week in advance for. It was a small course with a minute time limit, ANW had no time limit (granted you WANT to be fast but the fact of the matter is some people will be seriously slow.. didn't one guy have a 2-3 minute time when they cleared?). Plus there was padding and useless safety gear (Even Aoki doesn't wear that much..) out your a**... And on top of that there was NO trip to Japan and fear of lawyers.. so if you're going to use NF4NK=ANW then you're going to need a new argument
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2010 23:04:27 GMT -5
No. NF4 was a minute long, no exeptions. If anyone didn't make it to the end, they had to have some problems.
And even then, it was still crowded >_>
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 6, 2010 23:05:44 GMT -5
No. NF4 was a minute long, no exeptions. If anyone didn't make it to the end, they had to have some problems. And even then, it was still crowded >_> Yes.. That's EXACTLY what I said.. It had a time limit and ANW someone could use Nagano Rule if they wanted to.. they wouldn't have a shot at even making it to semi-finals but they could...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2010 23:08:08 GMT -5
No. NF4 was a minute long, no exeptions. If anyone didn't make it to the end, they had to have some problems. And even then, it was still crowded >_> Yes.. That's EXACTLY what I said.. It had a time limit and ANW someone could use Nagano Rule if they wanted to.. they wouldn't have a shot at even making it to semi-finals but they could... Oh nvm. I thought you were talking about NF4 there.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2010 23:21:20 GMT -5
Personally I think there's enough clamor for a NF to be taken around the country. They can make a killing selling tickets and just giving a course that people can show up for just for fun. I'd still keep ANW as a trials and keep the entrants to real competitors with a shot at Sasuke. Right now they want to skirt the line between the two and it's just not working.
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Post by darkthunder90 on Apr 6, 2010 23:36:49 GMT -5
I still want to give it a chance. Am I asking too much for a post or two helping our cause? Not yet of course, but I want to see what our numbers look like and iron out a few things. Then I will make a thread on the G4 forums. We'd like a chance to try out to. We want to go to Japan as much as any of you. If they don't listen then fine, atleast we tried. But to give up the fight before it even begins is something I will not do. They didn't give up did they?
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Post by supersheep on Apr 6, 2010 23:41:13 GMT -5
Thunder,
While your intentions are good, its been tried multiple times and G4 has already said they aren't budging, and there is no possible way to get more people on the course without adding more days, which is a very bad idea for obvious reasons. So unfortunately I dont see it happening
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Post by darkthunder90 on Apr 6, 2010 23:45:40 GMT -5
Thunder, While your intentions are good, its been tried multiple times and G4 has already said they aren't budging, and there is no possible way to get more people on the course without adding more days, which is a very bad idea for obvious reasons. So unfortunately I dont see it happening I understand where you are coming from with this, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try anyways. Even if they did some kind of seperate Jr. ANW with no Japan trip, I'd be happy with that. Won't you help out with just a post?
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Post by arsenette on Apr 6, 2010 23:47:09 GMT -5
Thunder, While your intentions are good, its been tried multiple times and G4 has already said they aren't budging, and there is no possible way to get more people on the course without adding more days, which is a very bad idea for obvious reasons. So unfortunately I dont see it happening Yeah.. these poor guys have been trying for 2 solid years to bring down the number. G4 has bothered to say something (it's rare they ever post actual information) so at least they are trying to squash the hope early this time.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 6, 2010 23:48:26 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from with this, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try anyways. Even if they did some kind of seperate Jr. ANW with no Japan trip, I'd be happy with that. Won't you help out with just a post? Well what would the prize be for that? The people who do best get some kind of prizes like money or tech stuff or something? Maybe it'd work better if they did that but used the regular Sasuke formula of No one HAS to win maybe?
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Post by darkthunder90 on Apr 6, 2010 23:53:35 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from with this, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try anyways. Even if they did some kind of seperate Jr. ANW with no Japan trip, I'd be happy with that. Won't you help out with just a post? Well what would the prize be for that? The people who do best get some kind of prizes like money or tech stuff or something? Maybe it'd work better if they did that but used the regular Sasuke formula of No one HAS to win maybe? Honestly, the prize would be recognition. If you do AMAZING on the Jr. course, who's to say they won't let you try the trial course? Even then, people went out to Santa Monica to have fun didn't they? Why not try that mindset with this?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 6, 2010 23:58:39 GMT -5
What? The "prize" would be whoever wins Jr ANW gets to try to qualify in regular ANW? Who's to say G4 won't worry about the "legal issues" if that person under 21 actually qualifies for Sasuke fair and square and get to go to Japan? Honestly I love this idea but I don't think G4 would do it..
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Post by arsenette on Apr 7, 2010 0:00:00 GMT -5
I think the point you are missing and as painful as it is.. They won't listen because they have heard this argument for 2 straight years. Ever since ANC was announced you had people complaining about the age restriction given that at that time Shunsuke Nagasaki was the poster child for the 20 and under crowd who made it to the friggin' final. G4 HAS taken the time and listened and reiterated that they are firm with their 21 and over requirement for ANW. Period.
If you want to have fun on a course then plead for a Ninjafest because THAT is worth exploring since a lot of even us forums people would like for that to be a regular thing. (and for the love of God not JUST California.. LOL)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 0:02:17 GMT -5
I think M9, if anything, should expand Muscle Park to the states. Your right Arsenette, with the popularity of Ninja Warrior here, I don't see why M9 can't cash off of it.
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