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Post by artyfowljr on Mar 28, 2010 9:17:32 GMT -5
I always loved this obstacle, but I think they exagerated a bit. The circle was friggin high? People under around 165 cms are screwed, no matter how good is their technique. For example, I think Nagano's jump wasn't a bad jump. Not THAT bad, but he just couldn't manage to touch it. Even normal sized competitors had trouble managing to catch the ring with both hands. In my opinion, on this new Circle Slider, short=screwed. IMO even Luci, with all her pro gymnastics background, would have had issues. Thoughts? (remember, the thread is about the obstacle, not Nagano's fail)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2010 9:19:57 GMT -5
I think it was a bad jump. He jumped forward as opposed to upwards.
But I do agree, this obstacle is nothing to tall people.
But I don't think its unfair, because tall people weight alot more, so it evens it out.
Nagano was just unexperienced.
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Post by obakemono on Mar 28, 2010 9:20:43 GMT -5
No. That's like saying the Warped Wall is too tall. He could have made it, other people passed it with plenty of room to spare.
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Post by japantv1210 on Mar 28, 2010 9:22:52 GMT -5
Maybe by the tiniest margin it was too high, but I pretty much agree with JP. He didn't really get that much height with his jump anyway. Instead, he jumped pretty far forward. Plus, isn't Yuuji around Nagano's height? I have no idea if he is, so correct me if I'm wrong. But, he got a pretty good jump and cleared it pretty easily.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 28, 2010 9:44:21 GMT -5
TOO high no.. but it was higher. People just need springboard training.
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Post by YoDaUO on Mar 28, 2010 10:02:19 GMT -5
Maybe replace the springboard with a trampoline.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 28, 2010 10:04:19 GMT -5
Maybe replace the springboard with a trampoline. Defeats the purpose Springboard is perfect for this obstacle. The fact that they have 2 different types of jumps and 2 different types of logs is cool IMO for the 1st stage.
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Post by davidyko on Mar 28, 2010 10:45:30 GMT -5
I agree. It was fine. They said in the broadcast that Yuuji was only 1 cm taller than Nagano, and he got it with no problems. Nagano still had bent knees and was crouched forward when the springboard went back up. Or so they said.
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Post by quasikoz on Mar 28, 2010 12:58:08 GMT -5
It was probably just the right height since we did also see a couple of people literally hanging on by fingernails. It's at a good spot, but they could drop the height by just the tiniest bit.
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Post by wolf4537 on Mar 28, 2010 13:04:19 GMT -5
I think it was the right height, but I want to try the obstacle myself so badly now to see how hard it actually is.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 29, 2010 21:42:00 GMT -5
I think the height is about the same.. but the position of either the track or the platform made it farther away than it was in 17.. Which it why it seems that if you're taller it seems that you've got to have more of a forwards jump (note how Levi seemed like he jumped TOO high)
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Post by The Chief on Mar 29, 2010 21:45:25 GMT -5
I think it was pretty cool that they made it higher and I think that it made it more interesting. Nagano barely missed it, it only LOOKED like a bad miss because he decided to Superman it at the end.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2010 22:39:03 GMT -5
I was told during his replay the announcer was pointing out his faulty technique even giving away how his legs were not outstretched but bent (paraphrasing of course but that was the general gist). I'm sure M9 will find a way to get him in something to practice the springboard
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Post by yamfriend on Mar 30, 2010 15:33:37 GMT -5
I was told during his replay the announcer was pointing out his faulty technique even giving away how his legs were not outstretched but bent (paraphrasing of course but that was the general gist). I'm sure M9 will find a way to get him in something to practice the springboard Or maybe they'll put it an inch or two lower in Sasuke 26 since they love Nagano. The Circle Slider was just a tad too high though IMO. IIRC, even Jun Sato and Kenji Takahashi barely made it, and they only did so with one arm. And although people like Levi made it without much effort, keep in mind that his jumping abilities are pretty darn good already. I honestly believe that it needs to give some other competitors at least somewhat of a chance.
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Post by papermario128 on Mar 30, 2010 15:49:21 GMT -5
Yuuji's only 5'4". Nagano missed by a lot more than an inch.
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Post by YoDaUO on Mar 30, 2010 16:01:46 GMT -5
Yuuji's only 5'4". Nagano missed by a lot more than an inch. Not a whole lot. Anyway, if he jumped a bit further on the springboard he woulda had it. He jumped about 6 inches from the edge.
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Post by Zorn on Mar 31, 2010 6:35:09 GMT -5
Did anyone see any notable differences between this version and 17's or was it basically the same?
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Post by scopedknife on Mar 31, 2010 9:11:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't see a problem with it. Nagano just missed is all. Plus, Yuuji got it, and he's 163cm tall (1cm taller than Nagano, who btw is 1cm taller than Akiyama (161cm)... seeing the pattern? ) Anyway, saying the Circle Slider is unfair for short people is like saying the Cliff Hanger ledge should be made bigger for heavier people. Just no ^ ^ lol He'll get it fine next time, I'm sure.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 31, 2010 11:07:13 GMT -5
I don't see anyone complaining about how the warped wlal is unfair for short people... so there should be no reason why people complain about this...
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 31, 2010 12:47:17 GMT -5
Did anyone see any notable differences between this version and 17's or was it basically the same? Despite what some people think the height is the same, It's the distance which changed creating the illusion it's higher since people are past the peak of their jump. I compared to 17 but couldn't get a picture that was clear enough to see the ring.. The start whole rig itself is more forwards of where it was in 17. people like Levi made it without much effort You mean taller people who's job is mostly jumping?
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