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Post by mikessssssss on Mar 28, 2010 11:47:41 GMT -5
But these testers don't have to run the whole course before taking on that obstacle. And it only showed one guy getting to the first top ledge- we don't know how much further he got. I think the prodecers realized afte the show that the new CH is imossible as is. Yeah but by their logic they'd probably say that if the tester can get that far, and probably further, whilst full of stamina then so can the competitiors. I know they wanted to make it really difficult, but i really doubt they would go overboard just so nobody could do it. I, for one, think it's possible epecially as the prior obstacles aren't that hard. imo of course. |
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 28, 2010 12:27:07 GMT -5
oh wow, the doorknob grasper is harder than it looks, it only takes like 20 minutes to build one
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 28, 2010 12:31:39 GMT -5
I wish the new 3rd stage looked like this: (Using only obstacles from the real sasuke)
-Roulette Cylinder
-Doorknob Grasper
-Floating Boards
-Ultimate Cliff-Hanger
-Curtain Cling
-Spider Flip
-Devil's Swing w/
-Pole Jumper
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Post by Badalight on Mar 28, 2010 12:36:13 GMT -5
But these testers don't have to run the whole course before taking on that obstacle. And it only showed one guy getting to the first top ledge- we don't know how much further he got. I think the prodecers realized afte the show that the new CH is imossible as is. You've obviously never watched any of Ryo's cliff-hanger videos on youtube. He can do a "reach up" twice the distance as the UCH. He can jump gaps 3x the distance as the ones in the UCH. He can hold onto a cliff-hanger ledge for 3 minutes. Ryo could definitely do it if he got there. And I think why the majority of people failed was because they were tired from the obstacles before hand. Look at Okuyama, you can't really tell me he failed from the cliffhanger can you? He was out of energy before he started, he had no chance. Lee probably could've gotten far had he grabbed that ledge, which we know is possible from the likes of Ryo and the tester.  Seriously, this is exactly what people said when the shin-cliffhanger was still new. It took 4 tournies, but it eventually got beaten. This one will be the same. People will learn how to beat the obstacles before it, so they won't be tired as much, they will build replicas, they will practice, and they'll beat it. I guarantee it. The question is how LONG will it take to be beaten? |
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Post by jfeathe on Mar 28, 2010 12:38:52 GMT -5
Questions:
1.) The Doorknobs were in the locked position, right?
2.) (Not really a question) Wasn't it stupid that they made the competitors climb down the final board in the Floating Boards? They should be able to jump off from the last one.
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Mar 28, 2010 12:43:22 GMT -5
Who really cares what obstacles are after the Ch becuase no one will ever try them. Have friggin' laser beams shoting at people as they glide down a bar and poisonus snakes in a pit below. NOONE will see that anyways. Don't care what anyone says here- the new CH and stage 3 as is can NOT be beaten. That is definitely going a bit overboard. The stage is not by any means impossible, just very hard. IF Yuuji makes stage 3 next tourny, he will rape it and either beat it, or get to the last obstacle. What you need to realize is we all now have 6 straight months to train as hard as we can and so do the competitors. The level of training for anybody who has hopes of getting to stage 3 will go through the roof and this newdesign will get beaten faster than shin-sasuke's era took for a stage 3 completion. |
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Post by Badalight on Mar 28, 2010 13:31:24 GMT -5
They probably just didn't want to risk it...
and yes the doorknobs are locked.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2010 13:42:40 GMT -5
All you have to do is go on the monkey bars and skip every other bar if you want to emulate the doorknob obstacle really.
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Post by bigblind168 on Mar 29, 2010 9:51:38 GMT -5
Kongu (and others) didnt do it the most efficient way. So yes, you can do it like that
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Post by TCM on Mar 29, 2010 9:55:04 GMT -5
I think they climbed down because a bad jump causes you drop in the water at the last millisecond, considering the positioning they were in, climbing down was all you could do to increase your chances of making the mat.
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Post by SRW on Mar 29, 2010 10:10:06 GMT -5
Once you passed the CH its very doable to clear the stage - kinda like the shin era really - once you got the beast tamed the rest should be straightfoward enough.
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Post by lars072 on Mar 29, 2010 10:14:23 GMT -5
But these testers don't have to run the whole course before taking on that obstacle. And it only showed one guy getting to the first top ledge- we don't know how much further he got. I think the prodecers realized afte the show that the new CH is imossible as is. You've obviously never watched any of Ryo's cliff-hanger videos on youtube. He can do a "reach up" twice the distance as the UCH. He can jump gaps 3x the distance as the ones in the UCH. He can hold onto a cliff-hanger ledge for 3 minutes. Ryo could definitely do it if he got there. And I think why the majority of people failed was because they were tired from the obstacles before hand. Look at Okuyama, you can't really tell me he failed from the cliffhanger can you? He was out of energy before he started, he had no chance. Lee probably could've gotten far had he grabbed that ledge, which we know is possible from the likes of Ryo and the tester. Seriously, this is exactly what people said when the shin-cliffhanger was still new. It took 4 tournies, but it eventually got beaten. This one will be the same. People will learn how to beat the obstacles before it, so they won't be tired as much, they will build replicas, they will practice, and they'll beat it. I guarantee it. The question is how LONG will it take to be beaten? I guess only time will tell. But if competitors are exhausted after the first 3 obstacles, then what does it matter if someone can do this new CH or not. The point is moot. |
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Post by artyfowljr on Mar 29, 2010 17:32:04 GMT -5
I just hope if somebody makes it to the last obstacle/final stage (IMO the UCH will get beaten soon, especially if a Cliffer reaches it), they do some changes and make the second half of the course harder, kinda like Sasuke 13-14 changes, or even more.
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Post by naganosupreeeme on Mar 29, 2010 19:33:35 GMT -5
The "Jesus Christ!!!" hanger bc when we first saw it all my friends simultaneously went "Jeeesus CHRIST!!!". I dont wanna piss off the man who can do that. 3rd stage adn 2nd stage were definitely retooled past even what I woulda imagined. Total props to the designers.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 29, 2010 19:39:36 GMT -5
Something I noticed.. All 5 competitors were barefoot in stage 3, Is there some kind of rule you're not allowed to wear shoes in stage 3? (I'm guessing for the floating board obstacle)
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Post by TCM on Mar 29, 2010 23:18:46 GMT -5
Something I noticed.. All 5 competitors were barefoot in stage 3, Is there some kind of rule you're not allowed to wear shoes in stage 3? (I'm guessing for the floating board obstacle) I'd bet on that. Shoes would give you better grip for your feet, which will reduce the need to have a death grip, which will likely leave your arms more energy for the UCH. |
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Post by Badalight on Mar 29, 2010 23:24:47 GMT -5
You've obviously never watched any of Ryo's cliff-hanger videos on youtube. He can do a "reach up" twice the distance as the UCH. He can jump gaps 3x the distance as the ones in the UCH. He can hold onto a cliff-hanger ledge for 3 minutes. Ryo could definitely do it if he got there. And I think why the majority of people failed was because they were tired from the obstacles before hand. Look at Okuyama, you can't really tell me he failed from the cliffhanger can you? He was out of energy before he started, he had no chance. Lee probably could've gotten far had he grabbed that ledge, which we know is possible from the likes of Ryo and the tester. Seriously, this is exactly what people said when the shin-cliffhanger was still new. It took 4 tournies, but it eventually got beaten. This one will be the same. People will learn how to beat the obstacles before it, so they won't be tired as much, they will build replicas, they will practice, and they'll beat it. I guarantee it. The question is how LONG will it take to be beaten? I guess only time will tell. But if competitors are exhausted after the first 3 obstacles, then what does it matter if someone can do this new CH or not. The point is moot. ... That's silly.. you should know the answer to that. The first few competitors had trouble with the new obstacles. Okuyama was DEAD TIRED before even startign the cliff-hanger. However Lee had a ton of energy reaching there. Why? Because he was the last to run... so in Sasuke 26 if people get to stage 3 those first 3 obstacles won't make people as tired, because they know how to beat them now. So when they get to the cliff-hanger they'll have more energy... meaning a better chance at beating it. It's pretty simple really. As for the shoes thing.. it MIGHT be a rule (Especially after the whole Yuuji thing) but personally I'd do stage 3 without any shoes... but that's just me. |
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Post by YoDaUO on Mar 30, 2010 14:49:17 GMT -5
Guess they are gonna put a ton of sasuke spray on their feet now.
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Post by jfeathe on Apr 1, 2010 10:27:41 GMT -5
With the Shin Cliff Hanger, the fact that it took 4 tournaments to clear has to do with the fact that it was pratically unattempted in 19 and 20 (Levi was brand new and simply unprepared for it.).
I think it can be cleared in the next tournament if everyone cracks down, builds one, and is able to clear it with Shin Cliff Hanger ease. I also think a MAJOR key to the third stage is the first three obstacles. I seriously think people need to build these obstacles because they are going to have to clear them with practically no energy lost.
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Post by obakemono on Apr 1, 2010 11:06:59 GMT -5
With the Shin Cliff Hanger, the fact that it took 4 tournaments to clear has to do with the fact that it was pratically unattempted in 19 and 20 (Levi was brand new and simply unprepared for it.). Agreed. I think it would have been cleared in 19 if the first stage had been the same. I don't think it will be beaten in 26, but it's possible if everything goes perfectly. The question now is whether Sasuke will last long enough for it to be passed. |
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