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Post by thesadguy1 on Mar 25, 2010 17:56:15 GMT -5
cool its like sasuke goes back into the past with hard old obstacles new punishing shin sasuke obstacles and of course a new obstacle or two and almost every obstacle is modified
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Mar 25, 2010 17:59:31 GMT -5
I think this first stage looks harder than shin-sasukes first stage did. What was so difficult about shin-sasukes? The jumping spider, and the slider jump? Thats all thats really been taken away it seems(as warped wall may still be there somewhere) but that balance obstacle looks more difficult than the slider jump did(not saying it looks very difficult, just more difficult) and the jump hang replaces the JS for an almost equal difficulty transition. Nothing else in Shin-Sasukes stage 1 was hard looking that I can remember. I definitely think there will be fewer passes on this stage 1 than the previous era had, for the first few tournaments that is.
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Post by 2D2Will on Mar 25, 2010 18:03:58 GMT -5
I just pooped my pants.
Also, about the final stage. Those are the cables they use to raise the TV camera for the up close shot as they climb. They're not going to reveal the final stage yet.
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Post by SRW on Mar 25, 2010 18:20:04 GMT -5
You won't see the final stage until its reached unless the camera screws up again and accidently shows the ladder like in 20 lol which more or less gave it away.
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Post by Ninja Chris on Mar 25, 2010 18:26:30 GMT -5
Take a look at the second stage obstacle! He slides down the stick slider, but notice... where does he land?!? Looks like a jump ON TO the Salmon Flip! Am I mistaken? Anyone see something I don't?
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Post by SRW on Mar 25, 2010 18:28:47 GMT -5
Take a look at the second stage obstacle! He slides down the stick slider, but notice... where does he land?!? Looks like a jump ON TO the Salmon Flip! Am I mistaken? Anyone see something I don't? I thought it looks like you have to land between the two salmon ladders or something looks like theres a bar between them facing the pipe track - perhaps you have to catch that then can get down and move onto the salmon ladders.
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Post by bigblind168 on Mar 25, 2010 18:32:14 GMT -5
Take a look at the second stage obstacle! He slides down the stick slider, but notice... where does he land?!? Looks like a jump ON TO the Salmon Flip! Am I mistaken? Anyone see something I don't? I thought this first, until i saw the padding at the end that i think u either drop to, or swing to (think slider jump)
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 25, 2010 18:43:05 GMT -5
On the new rounded Rokudantobi (I still don't like them STILL using steps but I like how it seems like they stopped people do that stop and walk thing from the junidantobi) two things to note, 1: The theory about padding is wrong. B: They said Hokkaido during that fail, it doesn't look like Akiyama at all so we know at least one person who wasn't a rep failed the first obstacle.. although that's the stupidest observation ever Original Rolling Maruta.. I guess they realized how much of a technical failure the Sandan version was, it fell off too easily and moved too slow. Jump Hang net is inbetween the angle of the 14-17 version and the Slider Jump net. So as long as you get enough height not to fall in it looks like the forwards jump is more important (But you still want to get higher so you can get over faster) Log Grip seems to be later in the course (after board + rope thing like speculated) if the background seems to be any clue since we can see alot of stage 3). Also to who said there was less space between drops, it's exactly the same as Shin Sasuke, Compare with 24. I can't tell if putting it later will mean more fails since people are more drained from getting there or less fails because it takes more skill to get there as opposed to you only have to not completely suck to get there. Navi Obstacle + Rope is earlier in the course than the Log Grip, look how you can only see the end of stage 3. Also I can see the mount is the rope is attached to a ring attached to a downwards angled track (think Circle Hammer) towards the top of the scaffolding Circle Slider is second to last obstacle, We can assume it takes place after the Soritatsu Kabe assuming it stayed. Someone noted the guy failing looked like he had an UNCLI shirt, didn't really look like it to me, but even if it was it doesn't mean anything (Kawaguchi and his girlfriend/wife had UNCLI shirts in other colors so maybe it's just someone who is a friend of them and they got a regular shirt made for him? If it IS a member of Uncli I'm guessing it's Ryo based on the hair (that or Matsuda cut his hair and competed). Stage 2: First obstacle is a Stick Slider (the bar HAS a stopper) where you have to land on a steeper stick slider and have to jump to the island, It looks like that keeping the bar straight is a priority so you don't have it fall off (stoppers only do so much as you can see..). Double Salmon Ladder it looks like you have to jump up to when getting onto the first part. Unstable Bridge is confirmed (I assume it stays for the same reason the Metal Spin was in Shin Sasuke, Because the last champion failed there once) and it looks like the Wall Lifting remains. Cliffhanger Fail is a competitor, He's wearing a number. I agree it looks like Hashimoto but this doesn't confirm anything. We do know Stage 3 IS attempted in Competition Stage 3 last obstacle appears to be a last minute prototype because theres very little people there and they don't demonstrate in the day, also it's cloudier then compared to the rest of the footage. Also the angle of the notches are steeper in the first commercial. Final Stage.......... Looks awesome....
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Post by arsenette on Mar 25, 2010 19:43:22 GMT -5
Interesting to see 2 logs on the same course! It's quite a mix! Seems they also moved the slider jump.. sorta.. to the 2nd stage (which ought to be pretty interesting..)
Glad to see Yamada kept his word for 25 especially after the huuuuuuuuge spectacle TBS put on for 24. He may be back for 26 I'm sure but for once we can believe he was going to retire because he did!
Sad to see Bunpei not back though I expected he wouldn't since I read it was cccccold that day.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 25, 2010 19:58:52 GMT -5
Anyone think night time stage 1 is because of how many obstacles to reset in stage 1? Rolling Maruta, The rope part of that new thing, Log Grip, Circle Slider.. And that's just stage 1
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Post by arsenette on Mar 25, 2010 19:59:55 GMT -5
Anyone think night time stage 1 is because of how many obstacles to reset in stage 1? Rolling Maruta, The rope part of that new thing, Log Grip, Circle Slider.. And that's just stage 1 Please also remember.. this was recorded almost 5 weeks ago in February.. it gets dark a hell of a lot earlier in the day.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 25, 2010 20:04:52 GMT -5
Anyone think night time stage 1 is because of how many obstacles to reset in stage 1? Rolling Maruta, The rope part of that new thing, Log Grip, Circle Slider.. And that's just stage 1 Please also remember.. this was recorded almost 5 weeks ago in February.. it gets dark a hell of a lot earlier in the day. Still.. there had to be ALOT of down-time XD
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Post by arsenette on Mar 25, 2010 20:07:35 GMT -5
Please also remember.. this was recorded almost 5 weeks ago in February.. it gets dark a hell of a lot earlier in the day. Still.. there had to be ALOT of down-time XD 18 was by far the worst from what I read in terms of tech tech problems. I suspect this being the first after the renewal that there will be problems. I would suspect that bringing some oldies back it was the reason to keep from having to fix too much.
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Post by YoDaUO on Mar 25, 2010 20:15:51 GMT -5
Im really worried about that balance obstacle. What is it Kunochi or something? I have a horrible feeling nagano or yuuji will fail it.
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Post by chackpop on Mar 25, 2010 20:27:02 GMT -5
First guy to fail Log Grip..has white skin...short hair.
Does anyone else think that he might be Richard King?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 25, 2010 20:28:41 GMT -5
Im really worried about that balance obstacle. What is it Kunochi or something? I have a horrible feeling nagano or yuuji will fail it. It's not Kunoichi, it's something that never got used in 23 (or 24 but you see it in the 23 navi so...) First guy to fail Log Grip..has white skin...short hair.
Does anyone else think that he might be Richard King? (I put your post in spoiler tags, might be a good idea to edit them into yours) America isn't the only country sending representatives. White skin and short hair could be ALOT of people.. This isn't even counting people who look like that who LIVE in Japan.. And Richard passed the Log Grip in 23 too
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Post by The Chief on Mar 25, 2010 20:34:10 GMT -5
First guy to fail Log Grip..has white skin...short hair.
Does anyone else think that he might be Richard King? There are Japanese characters on his shorts...so, I don't THINK so, but it very well may be.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 25, 2010 22:23:47 GMT -5
Dunno why you think it's harder than shin-sasuke venom, but to each their own.
I'm excited, because I was not a fan of the shin-sasuke first stage. Though I loved some of the obstacles and this is like if the 4-17 and the 18-24 era had a baby.
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Post by bigblind168 on Mar 25, 2010 22:32:37 GMT -5
\ And Richard passed the Log Grip in 23 too And Nagano beat the Jumping Spider in 18-23 Takeda beat the Jumping Spider in 18-21 Levi Beat the Salmon Ladder in 20 Nagano beat the Downhill Jump in 18 Yuji Washimi beat the Halfpipe Attack in 19 So whats you're point?
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Post by Oti on Mar 25, 2010 22:47:56 GMT -5
Venom actually explained most of his reasoning, so... yeah. And I agree with him. Was the old first stage that hard? Yes, it was challenging, but was it THAT hard? Even David said it was easier than it looked, particularly the Half-pipe Attack. I think the Jumping Spider was the only real threat there (for skilled competitors, such as Nagano, Levi, etc.). I mean, I'm not trying to discredit the stage or anything because it definitely did its job (and how!) but I don't think it was that hard. That being said, I disagree that this new stage looks harder. I think it looks around the same. The rope swings look tricky, but the Jump Hang looks easier than the Jumping Spider You know. It roughly evens out. Or something like that. What I love is how stage two is now hard and stage three looks damn near impossible. THE WAY IT SHOULD BE! ;D
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