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Post by SuperTiger on Sept 11, 2008 16:26:14 GMT -5
1st Stage-Warped Wall (current), Jump Hang, Jumping Spider, Rolling Log, Log Grip, Circle Slider 2nd Stage-Spider Walk, Salmon Ladder, Metal Spin, Wall Lift 3rd Stage-Rumbling Dice, Globe Grasp, Cliff Hanger versions 3 and 4, Jumping Bars, Spider Flip, Pipe Slider, Final Ring Final Stage-everthing
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Post by lars072 on Sept 13, 2008 2:27:07 GMT -5
OK, here's a way to end this argument. Since Sasuke began, these obstacles have taken out the following number of competitors:
Cliff Hanger- 29 (all versions) Pipe Slider- 24 (all versions) Body Prop- 18
Those would be my top 3 of all time. But yes, the new Cliff Hanger is ridiculous.
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Post by davidyko on Sept 13, 2008 10:44:54 GMT -5
Yay Cliff Hanger wins!! Well, the thing is (I'm going to refute my own argument here) that if people fail on the Cliff-Hanger, they'll never get to the Pipe Slider, which may or may not have taken them out, so we can't really tell. For all we know, Paul Anthony Terek could've pwned the Pipe Slider.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Sept 13, 2008 11:07:55 GMT -5
And that's just taking into account 3rd Stage obstacles. The numbers are very different for the other stages, especially Stage 1. The Jumping Spider in 19 or the Quintuple Step in 8 would beat the Cliffhanger.
However, I agree that the Cliffhanger is probably the hardest obstacle. Since it's introduction in the 4th tournament, someone has failed there in every tournament except: Sasuke 5 - only Shingo Yamamoto faced it Sasuke 8 - Takeda, Jovtchev, and Kosugi all beat it (hence the massive change to it in the next tourney) Sasuke 9 - only Makoto Nagano faced it Sasuke 19 - no one attempted it
Although, the Pipe Slider is equally hard. From Sasuke 2 - 17, someone failed it (as long as someone attempted the obstacle). The only exception is: Sasuke 7
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Post by obakemono on Sept 13, 2008 18:43:53 GMT -5
The Quin Steps in 8 took out 50 people, lol. It was new, and it was raining, but still... 50 people!
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Post by scnoi1217 on Sept 13, 2008 23:57:30 GMT -5
The Jumping Spider in 19 took out a reported 42 people. 42 people...and it's the 4th obstacle. I don't know if that means the first 3 obstacles are easy, or if that one was just insanely hard.
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Post by gtoneko on Sept 15, 2008 2:41:36 GMT -5
1st Stage: Barrel Climb, Rolling Log/Log Grip, Jump Hang/Jumping Spider, Warped Wall (How many fell short to this one?), and finally Flying Chute.
2nd Stage: Spider Walk (1-6), Balance Tank, Metal Spin and the Wall Lift (one might've used most of their energy to just get to that point and have to deal with the final wall which of course is no lightweight).
3rd Stage: Cliff Hanger and Pipe Slider.
Final Stage: ......nuff said.
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Post by lars072 on Sept 16, 2008 7:25:41 GMT -5
1st Stage: Barrel Climb, Rolling Log/Log Grip, Jump Hang/Jumping Spider, Warped Wall (How many fell short to this one?), and finally Flying Chute. 2nd Stage: Spider Walk (1-6), Balance Tank, Metal Spin and the Wall Lift (one might've used most of their energy to just get to that point and have to deal with the final wall which of course is no lightweight). 3rd Stage: Cliff Hanger and Pipe Slider. Final Stage: ......nuff said. You need to add the HP Attack for stage 1 and the Salmon Ladder for stage 2. I would add the Body Prop for stage 3- a lot of guys fell there and almost everyone struggled through that obstacle.
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Post by gtoneko on Sept 16, 2008 15:25:11 GMT -5
You need to add the HP Attack for stage 1 and the Salmon Ladder for stage 2. I would add the Body Prop for stage 3- a lot of guys fell there and almost everyone struggled through that obstacle. Oh yeah, forgot about the Body Prop. Half Pipe Attack, I'll agree about that one since it knocked out alot in 20. As for the Salmon Ladder, that's a challenging one alright, but also, it's a 50/50 shot as of right now since 5 were defeated by it, but also 5 were able to beat it.
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Post by murdog83 on Dec 14, 2008 16:10:26 GMT -5
OK, here's a way to end this argument. Since Sasuke began, these obstacles have taken out the following number of competitors: Cliff Hanger- 29 (all versions) Pipe Slider- 24 (all versions) Body Prop- 18 Those would be my top 3 of all time. But yes, the new Cliff Hanger is ridiculous. The science here is flawed somewhat. As davidyko mentions: if you fail on the Shin-Cliff Hanger you can't attempt the Pipe Slider, so comparing the number of competitors who have failed on each in competition is pointless. I think if someone were fresh for all of the obstacles and we performed a real scientific experiment comparing how many people fell off each obstacle, the Shin Cliff-Hanger in its second and third iterations especially would take out the most competitors, but not by much. But in the context of the competition, I think the Pipe Slider (the jump to the platform is part of the obstacle in my opinion and must be factored in) is the hardest obstacle because it happens so late in the stage when your arms are at their most tired. If the Shin Cliff-Hanger were the last obstacle then I'd probably be saying the same thing about it. A note about the Gliding Ring: I think this obstacle is too new to make any conjecture regarding its difficulty. It clearly looked difficult when Nagano struggled on it, but for all we know he may have been using the wrong technique and in Sasuke 25 we might see someone clear it with ease.
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Post by lars072 on Dec 20, 2008 2:22:28 GMT -5
Science? This is Sasuke, not The Discovery Channel. Just enjoy it and move on.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Dec 20, 2008 4:23:54 GMT -5
The Jumping Spider in 19 took out a reported 42 people. 42 people...and it's the 4th obstacle. I don't know if that means the first 3 obstacles are easy, or if that one was just insanely hard. Sasuke 19: an overreaction to 18's first stage results. Main changes? Highest and farthest jumping spider ever. and that chute rope? If you're accuracy is slightly off, you're goin down. Watching Shunsuke, Takamasa and Nagano lose grip of that rope was the proof. I almost wish they kept the course the same in 20 and not change those obstacles in a subtle way, I like 19 because of its results.
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Post by SRW on Dec 20, 2008 8:23:35 GMT -5
Yeah but having said that even in 20 only 3 cleared and had Levi not been there it would have been the same again! Constant results like 19s would just kill ratings!
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Post by scnoi1217 on Dec 20, 2008 11:59:05 GMT -5
Yes that's true. Plus, I agree that they had to change some things in the first stage after Sasuke 18. The Jumping Spider was extremely easy (I would say that version of the obstacle is easier than certain versions of the Jump Hang), plus the Flying Chute was laughably easy to be the last obstacle before the Rope Climb. So changes had to be made. Granted, the changes were a bit too hard as the results showed (especially the ones to the Flying Chute) but changes were needed to those obstacles. In Sasuke 20, they made those two obstacles easier, but also made the Halfpipe Attack harder, so the results stayed about the same. I'm glad they changed the Halfpipe Attack back, and the results showed because of it.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 1, 2009 20:43:24 GMT -5
When I first saw vids of Sasuke 18 (before even finding G4's forums and months before ANC1 was even announced, But the first vids I saw were stage 1) I thought that it was a joke, There was only two obstacles that really shocked me, putting a trampoline to the Spider Walk, But then I looked at it more and realized its not like theres much of a jump and people did that anyways, And the Great Wall (or as I called it then, the "New Warped Wall") and that was because I didn't notice it was higher and thought they made it easier, then I realized it was higher but the rope was the same height so it didn't matter anyways, so I thought stage one was just a complete joke, Especially the flying chute "Why the hell is there a slide there!?. Then I saw stage 2, Still thought it was a joke except for "The Upwards Bar Jump Thing" (Obviously the Salmon Ladder before I knew its name). Third stage I still thought was a joke except for the Cliffhanger, I still think that about stages 2 and 3, although I'm not worried about the Salmon Ladder or Cliffhanger anymore, But they're still the only part to be worried about.
Don't feel like listing my thoughts of 19 on because I've trained for that so I find it hard remembering if I thought it was hard.
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Post by lars072 on Jan 4, 2009 9:06:10 GMT -5
When I first saw vids of Sasuke 18 (before even finding G4's forums and months before ANC1 was even announced, But the first vids I saw were stage 1) I thought that it was a joke, There was only two obstacles that really shocked me, putting a trampoline to the Spider Walk, But then I looked at it more and realized its not like theres much of a jump and people did that anyways, And the Great Wall (or as I called it then, the "New Warped Wall") and that was because I didn't notice it was higher and thought they made it easier, then I realized it was higher but the rope was the same height so it didn't matter anyways, so I thought stage one was just a complete joke, Especially the flying chute "Why the hell is there a slide there!?. Then I saw stage 2, Still thought it was a joke except for "The Upwards Bar Jump Thing" (Obviously the Salmon Ladder before I knew its name). Third stage I still thought was a joke except for the Cliffhanger, I still think that about stages 2 and 3, although I'm not worried about the Salmon Ladder or Cliffhanger anymore, But they're still the only part to be worried about. Don't feel like listing my thoughts of 19 on because I've trained for that so I find it hard remembering if I thought it was hard. Rider, I think you should try your damnest to get onto Sasuke 22. Man, with your sheer confidence and obvious skills, you'd be a shoe-in to get past the 3rd stage. I mean, not even Nagano could get past the 3rd stage, but I think you can do it! You would likely be the newest All-Star and have your own theme song, too. I'll be looking for you in Sasuke 22! Isn't sarcasm wonderful? ;D
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Post by richie137 on Jan 5, 2009 21:10:21 GMT -5
final stage, and pipe slider , enough said.
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Post by YamamotoFan! on Jul 1, 2009 15:52:03 GMT -5
I would say either the Shin-Cliffhanger or the fnial stage
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Post by Badalight on Jul 3, 2009 0:55:55 GMT -5
old thread...
anyway.
1. Pipe Slider 2. Shin-Cliff 3. Curtain Cling 4. Slider Jump 5. Flying Chute 6. Jumping Spider
Final stage shouldn't count as an obstacle, and you shouldn't consider a stages time limit when thinking of how hard the obstacle is.
The G-rope in the finals tage is hard with a short time limit, yes. But the obstacle itself is simply a rope climb, no big.
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