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Please vote.

[rcplanes59]

How is everyone saying no? Yuuji's done a shootload for the show and he's their third champion. PLUS there's an open spot with Yamada out of the picture.

[Oti]

Since when is Yamada not an all-star?

Isn't Yuuji relatively new? If so, I'm gonna say no. He needs to be there for a while and do consistently well the whole time.

[scnoi1217]

He's already part of the "New Stars" group along with Kanno, I don't see why he needs to be moved from the group. He gets the same treatment as any All-Star would, and he already is a leader of the group he's in, so that's why I'm saying no.

[davidyko]

I think you all are misconstruing the meaning of the "All-Stars". TBS isn't going to change the composition of the "All-Stars". It's not a variable group that changes according to whoever does well; otherwise Yamada and Akiyama would've been out of it years ago. Sure, it was originally conceived as the "people who have the most potential to do well" in order to bring in more viewers (and people for them to relate to), but no longer.

[Badalight]

all-star =/= good

I remember watching this clip of another japanese game show. There was this guy labeled as an all-star, but he was easily the worst out of everyone competing.

I'd say Hang Glider man would be sooner considered an all-star than Yuuji. Not because he's better obviously but because he's a big part of the show and it's history.

Yuuji's 4 tournaments arn't good enough IMO.

Of course m9 could prove me wrong and make him one, I'm not saying they WON'T I just don't think they will.

[RiderLeangle]

Jan 2, 2010 10:50:00 GMT -5 Oti said:

Since when is Yamada not an all-star?

Maybe RC is talking about because Yamada said he'd retire if he didn't pass Stage 1 and failed the Soritatsu Kabe. Although I think RC must be on drugs if he think thats true.
Yamada said he would retire after 8 if he didn't pass stage 1.
*Yamada competes in 9*

Yamada said he would retire after 17 if he didn't pass stage 1.
*Yamada competes in 18*

And if anyone wants to use the new course excuse for the 17 retirement and in 18, Guess what.. TBS is pushing a "Kanzen Renewal" (Perfect Renewal) for Sasuke 25

[rcplanes59]

Something I just noticed about Yamada:
Retires in 8, course redesigned in 9
Retires in 12, course redesigned in 13
Retires in 17, course redesigned in 18
Retires in 24, course redesigned in 25

Anyway, back to Yuuji. He has been trying to qualify for SASUKE since SASUKE 11 (if he would have qualified he'd have one less appearance than Shiratori). Did he give up? No. He kept training, and when he failed to qualify, he trained harder. Then he joined UNCLI which did wonders for the show. Finally he defeats the, ahem, ALL STARS, to qualify for 21. He failed the First Stage, which Nagano and Shiratori did in their first appearances. (He went deeper too.) Then he qualified AGAIN, and thrilled everyone by making it to the Final Stage in just his second appearance, one sooner than Shiratori, Yamada, and Yamamoto, and three sooner than Nagano (and they're on the same level now so you can't say "Oh well Nagano is the champion and blah blah blah"). So he trained on the rope day in and day out so he would be able to beat it, and look what happened. He became the fourth person to clear the Third Stage twice (two are All-Stars and the third is Omori who retired in SASUKE 7) and used his newfound rope climbing skills to earn the third Kanzenseiha (the other two by All-Stars).

I shouldn't even have to argue his case. If I went out to Midoriyama in the spring and earned kanzenseiha, I should be an all-star for that reason alone.

Yuuji earned Kanzenseiha. Four All-Stars haven't. Advantage Yuuji. Yuuji is an All-Star. Period.

[TCM]

Jan 2, 2010 18:34:32 GMT -5 @rcplanes59 said:

Something I just noticed about Yamada:
Retires in 8, course redesigned in 9
Retires in 12, course redesigned in 13
Retires in 17, course redesigned in 18
Retires in 24, course redesigned in 25

Anyway, back to Yuuji. He has been trying to qualify for SASUKE since SASUKE 11 (if he would have qualified he'd have one less appearance than Shiratori). Did he give up? No. He kept training, and when he failed to qualify, he trained harder. Then he joined UNCLI which did wonders for the show. Finally he defeats the, ahem, ALL STARS, to qualify for 21. He failed the First Stage, which Nagano and Shiratori did in their first appearances. (He went deeper too.) Then he qualified AGAIN, and thrilled everyone by making it to the Final Stage in just his second appearance, one sooner than Shiratori, Yamada, and Yamamoto, and three sooner than Nagano (and they're on the same level now so you can't say "Oh well Nagano is the champion and blah blah blah"). So he trained on the rope day in and day out so he would be able to beat it, and look what happened. He became the fourth person to clear the Third Stage twice (two are All-Stars and the third is Omori who retired in SASUKE 7) and used his newfound rope climbing skills to earn the third Kanzenseiha (the other two by All-Stars).

I shouldn't even have to argue his case. If I went out to Midoriyama in the spring and earned kanzenseiha, I should be an all-star for that reason alone.

Yuuji earned Kanzenseiha. Four All-Stars haven't. Advantage Yuuji. Yuuji is an All-Star. Period.

I called the Yamada thing clever, then something compelled me look at the end of your post and now they cancel out. The term "All-Star" isn't one that can be thrown around to anyone, never was, never will. TBS created them for a rating ploy as "The ones the most likely to perform the best out of everyone", now it's "Group of friends wanting to do the best they can". That was evident with Nagano visibly upset after Takeda failed the Spider Flip. Not to mention Yuuji's ALREADY IN A GROUP CALLED THE "New Stars", plus his UNCLI affiliation. This was said prior to your post, do you not read? FFS, why don't people think before they speak anymore? Your post doesn't deserve any internet meme that deals with stupidity, that's how sad this is, you need a kick in the pants. Honestly.

[BLM]

Jan 2, 2010 18:34:32 GMT -5 @rcplanes59 said:

Something I just noticed about Yamada:
Retires in 8, course redesigned in 9
Retires in 12, course redesigned in 13
Retires in 17, course redesigned in 18
Retires in 24, course redesigned in 25

Anyway, back to Yuuji. He has been trying to qualify for SASUKE since SASUKE 11 (if he would have qualified he'd have one less appearance than Shiratori). Did he give up? No. He kept training, and when he failed to qualify, he trained harder. Then he joined UNCLI which did wonders for the show. Finally he defeats the, ahem, ALL STARS, to qualify for 21. He failed the First Stage, which Nagano and Shiratori did in their first appearances. (He went deeper too.) Then he qualified AGAIN, and thrilled everyone by making it to the Final Stage in just his second appearance, one sooner than Shiratori, Yamada, and Yamamoto, and three sooner than Nagano (and they're on the same level now so you can't say "Oh well Nagano is the champion and blah blah blah"). So he trained on the rope day in and day out so he would be able to beat it, and look what happened. He became the fourth person to clear the Third Stage twice (two are All-Stars and the third is Omori who retired in SASUKE 7) and used his newfound rope climbing skills to earn the third Kanzenseiha (the other two by All-Stars).

I shouldn't even have to argue his case. If I went out to Midoriyama in the spring and earned kanzenseiha, I should be an all-star for that reason alone.

Yuuji earned Kanzenseiha. Four All-Stars haven't. Advantage Yuuji. Yuuji is an All-Star. Period.

I understand what you are saying but i have got to say that Yuuji is not an All Star and never will be. THe all stars are going to stay as they are and Yuuji will be leader of teh New Stars. The New Stars are basicly the new All Stars so does it really make a difference as he is treated like an All Star so yeah

[Oti]

Maybe each kick a** group of people gets a special title? The first generation was "All-stars", now it's "New-stars"... you know?

Maybe when the All-stars are done competing and the New-stars are the veterans of the course, yet another group will appear and they'll be called something else.

Or maybe they'll become the All-stars and a new group will get the "rookie" title of "New-stars". I have no idea.

But I say nay. No All-star for Yuuji.

[arsenette]

Actually having a title is basically a curse.. I don't think it's good for them to remake the group or add others.. they will do anyway because TBS is anal that way.. but the pressure they put on them is enormous. Just ask Takeda when he cracked under pressure of being the last of All-Stars (something Nagano carries every single tourney). I had a conversation about Kongo and he is perfect as that example. Does his job, gets on teh show, does well does poor but no hype. He doesn't have to cope with the prying in his life, the 10,000 interviews during the course, the screaming of the stupid announcers during his run that he's disappointing his group (whatever label) and doesn't have to endure the same set up every tourney. Ever time there's some sort of label on someone they seem to falter (i.e. Yuuji in 23). No one has gotten the amount of stress and crap as the All-Stars have. No one else hosts events outside of Sasuke. No one else does promotional crap. So wanting that title on Yuuji is like an albatross tying around his neck. With everyone starting from scratch it's going to be nuts having him as 100 and the new champion come Sasuke 25. His life is basically forfeit for a while. Going to see how he handles it.

Oh P.S. Yuuji didn't join UNCLI.. he helped create it.. big difference IMO

[RiderLeangle]

I dunno.. A title might not exactly be a curse.. I mean look at the "Leader" of the "New Heroes" did..

[arsenette]

Jan 3, 2010 4:42:27 GMT -5 RiderLeangle said:

I dunno.. A title might not exactly be a curse.. I mean look at the "Leader" of the "New Heroes" did..

Yep and it took him HOW many years to get there? People think he is "new"..

[TCM]

Jan 3, 2010 4:23:51 GMT -5 arsenette said:

Actually having a title is basically a curse.. I don't think it's good for them to remake the group or add others.. they will do anyway because TBS is anal that way.. but the pressure they put on them is enormous. Just ask Takeda when he cracked under pressure of being the last of All-Stars (something Nagano carries every single tourney). I had a conversation about Kongo and he is perfect as that example. Does his job, gets on teh show, does well does poor but no hype. He doesn't have to cope with the prying in his life, the 10,000 interviews during the course, the screaming of the stupid announcers during his run that he's disappointing his group (whatever label) and doesn't have to endure the same set up every tourney. Ever time there's some sort of label on someone they seem to falter (i.e. Yuuji in 23). No one has gotten the amount of stress and crap as the All-Stars have. No one else hosts events outside of Sasuke. No one else does promotional crap. So wanting that title on Yuuji is like an albatross tying around his neck. With everyone starting from scratch it's going to be nuts having him as 100 and the new champion come Sasuke 25. His life is basically forfeit for a while. Going to see how he handles it.

Oh P.S. Yuuji didn't join UNCLI.. he helped create it.. big difference IMO

Yep and it took him HOW many years to get there? People think he is "new"..

That's the problem, TBS doesn't mention how he's been trying since iirc 11? They only talk about his Shin-Sasuke career. So people who didn't know without research (like myself), I labeled him under the "new" tab, and while is is new to the tournament itself, he isn't in the trial aspect of it, maybe that's the "new" they mention.