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Post by Homeslice on Sept 26, 2008 10:30:34 GMT -5
After seeing him fail again in 21, I had to make this thread. I make no secret that Shingo Yamamoto is my favorite All-Star (though I do like the others as well). That said, I'm just stunned that he has now failed the First Stage four times in a row, especially so after watching his run in 21 - he had the First Stage beaten until he got to the Flying Chute. It was a fate almost similar to Takeda in 20, though Takeda was able to get past it then. The announcers have mentioned that Yamamoto has made some careless mistakes in the past, and most times they have been his downfall.
I wonder: is his head still in the game at all? Can he make it past Stage 1 next time if he can fix these little mistakes?
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Sept 26, 2008 10:34:18 GMT -5
who knows?
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Post by Homeslice on Sept 26, 2008 10:37:40 GMT -5
I should've expected that - who knows what he has to do next?
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Post by obakemono on Sept 26, 2008 10:41:57 GMT -5
His failure this time was just a matter of technique. You basically need to either go pretty fast, get a good grip on the rope and take a moment to regain control, then get the net with the rebound, or go really slowly and then take a big jump into the rope at the last second, to give yourself the necessary recoil to make it to the net. See Iketani's attempt for why you should not mix these two techniques, lol.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Sept 26, 2008 11:06:37 GMT -5
Yea, the Flying Chute is his main problem as he's failed there in 18 and 21. The hard thing about it is that it is not easy to replicate as say a Warped Wall is. When he's doing the Flying Chute, he needs to take a second and think about how he's going to attack the obstacle. Re-watching his Sasuke 21 run, he slowed himself down to a crawl in order to guarantee that he would make it to the rope. However, the rebound momentum wasn't enough for him to get to the net. Honestly, I think he needs to go fast down the chute to guarantee that he'll get enough momentum. That's pretty much it. If he can figure out how to beat the Flying Chute, he's into Stage 2. He's erased the demons of 19 (Jumping Spider) and 20 (Halfpipe Attack) and any new obstacles will most likely come before the Jumping Spider, so I really think only the Flying Chute he'll have to work on.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 26, 2008 11:20:47 GMT -5
I don't see why he was so worried, he got the rope and caught the net in 18, crawling under the net is where he fell.
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Post by Yojimbo on Sept 26, 2008 16:03:34 GMT -5
maybe it not right for him anymore. Or maybe he had a bad day. Maybe he competes simply for the fun. Didin't he have an injury of some sort though?
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Post by supernovamaniac on Sept 26, 2008 18:30:50 GMT -5
Just because they call you All-Star doesn't mean that they should clear everything in a snap (for example, look at Yamada...). They were the best group of people back in the old days, and the trend has been going on. All-Star is more like tradition. (this is pointed at people who might flame about attacking an All-Star because of their status).
With that being said, I remember Akiyama saying "If you get nervous, it takes your ability away from doing well on the course" 6 months ago (not exact quotation, but you get the idea) in front of the ANC2. From my view, Shingo was too worried that he would miss the rope, thus giving him the idea to go down very slowly. If it didn't get into his head too much, I think there would've been more speed in his run, meaning more rebound.
Shingo is a great man. Just because he is screwing up now doesn't mean that he will never clear 1st Stage again. Just little here and there.
Yojimbo: He did have a dislocated shoulder on the 7th during the final stage. However, since he beat the 1st stage few times after that, I personally think it shouldn't bother him at all. I might be wrong though.
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Post by lars072 on Sept 26, 2008 23:28:36 GMT -5
I hope he does well next time around. Takeda hadn't beat the first stage since 17 and look how far he got in Sasuke 21. So it's possible that he can dowell, but he just seems prone to mental errors. But there's no doubt he has ability and experience on his side.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 27, 2008 0:28:14 GMT -5
Well the irony there is Takeda said he was just having fun in the new ones and decided to take it more seriously, while Yamamoto said he'd be less serious about it and have fun.
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Post by gtoneko on Sept 27, 2008 1:00:16 GMT -5
That's Shingo for ya. To be around for all of the tournaments, he keeps making a key error in alot of them. I remember mainly in 4, he just lost his balance briefly, and it caused him to fail on the Balance Bridge. In 6, he lost his grip on the Rolling Log, 8 he just flailed around too much on the Rope Climb, it just goes on.
He can definitely do it well on course, it's just a matter of watching out for those small key mistakes that usually wind up costing him big.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 27, 2008 2:20:00 GMT -5
I think Arsenette's hat theory must be true XD
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Post by gtoneko on Sept 27, 2008 2:39:04 GMT -5
I'm thinking about that too. He might want to wear it the right way once again seeing as how he has it backwards for the past few tournaments, it's kind of guaranteed to stay on instead of falling off.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 27, 2008 6:41:02 GMT -5
Hes probably been doing that so the visor doesn't get in the way on the Log Grip or something. Either way the hat isn't taking the fall for him.
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Post by Homeslice on Sept 28, 2008 22:09:18 GMT -5
At least not until he falls into the water.
Yamamoto should just do like Takeda and take these more seriously from here on out. I really want to see him get past the First Stage next time.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Sept 28, 2008 22:28:19 GMT -5
Actually, before Sasuke 21 (in those interviews they have in the intro), Shingo said something like, I usually just try to have fun, but today I really want to beat the first stage. While Takeda said he wanted to relax more and just have fun running the course.
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Post by Homeslice on Sept 28, 2008 22:31:38 GMT -5
So, basically, what Rider said is the opposite. Or did I go crazy again?
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 28, 2008 22:33:40 GMT -5
My bad, everyone makes mistakes sometimes.
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Post by Homeslice on Sept 28, 2008 22:35:34 GMT -5
In that case, Shingo needs to relax then, hmm?
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Post by scnoi1217 on Sept 28, 2008 22:38:27 GMT -5
He's been relaxing in the last few tournaments besides 21, and look how well he's done.
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